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I really recommend reading this week's MMQB. Most of you dislike King (for justified reasons) but he's at his best when he's doing actual journalism instead of opinion pieces. Very revelatory to see that the 49ers draft team really doesn't know any better than our random goons. A lot of the things they were saying in there I'd seen said by goons in the draft threads over the weekend. They even believe in the stupid superstitious bullshit about Bill Walsh and Joe Montana paralleling this year's draft!!! I mean look at this:  Is this the board of a team of highly intelligent and competent football geniuses who know exactly what they're doing? I don't think this is limited to just the 49ers. I think this poo poo is way more common throughout the NFL than most of us think and that for the most part they're just pretending they know what they're doing. quote:“It was dead,” Lynch said. “No chance. I wasn’t interested. But I knew how Kyle [Shanahan] felt, so I figured I should at least talk to [Williams]. When I got in, I called him. When I got him on the phone, I said to him, ‘Joe, to be honest, I was done with you.’” quote:After a long time on the phone, Lynch had a radical change of mind. quote:“Sheer willpower,” Williams said. “I was running the ball for my sister, I was catching the ball for my sister.”
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Wilford Cutlery posted:Wow, helluva story. Might even be true! The source for this story being false is... Ryan Pace. I really doubt that, true or not, Ryan Pace would ever admit that Fox was out of the loop, especially with the blatantly negative reaction over that story.
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May 1, 2017 18:13
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Timby posted:To be fair, didn't Rodgers turn out to be, like, the first Jeff Tedford quarterback who didn't suck out loud in the NFL? quote:Fresno State
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May 2, 2017 17:21
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The Bears drafted this guy: https://i.imgur.com/aFT0yT4.gifv
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May 3, 2017 00:09
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You suddenly realize that Donovan McNabb, Tom Brady, and Daunte Culpepper are all the same age.
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May 3, 2017 18:07
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Vince Lombardi, Redskins.
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May 3, 2017 20:43
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Fenrir posted:Sterling Sharpe was my favorite player as a teenager. He would have been a first ballot hall of fame WR if he hadn't broken his loving neck The Packers have a real loving problem with their players getting neck injuries and I'm surprised the administration hasn't addressed it yet. Sharpe, Collins, Finley, like half a dozen backups...
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May 4, 2017 15:19
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BlindSite posted:Lost the unlosable, everyone in the south wants them to die, has no redeeming qualities. Extremely boring and tedious team but everyone was like "They've got this in the bag!"
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May 5, 2017 04:43
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The Bears had a great run of likable quarterbacks. Grossman, Orton, Cutler...
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May 5, 2017 22:02
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quote:"It's the same old Jay," Charles Woodson told ESPN's Rachel Nichols after the game. "We just need to be in position. Jay will throw us the ball."
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May 7, 2017 00:10
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Hunt11 posted:WhaT is causing my confusion is the first T. Look at the first word again.
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May 7, 2017 00:32
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losing makes you fat, support the Packers/Patriotsquote:“One day after a defeat, Americans eat 16 percent more saturated fat, and 10 percent more calories. But on the day after a victory of their favorite team, then it’s the opposite. They eat more healthily. They eat 9 percent less saturated fat, and 5 percent fewer calories. There was no effect in cities without a team or with a team that didn’t play.”
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May 7, 2017 06:48
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the only unappetizing part of that is the bun which looks like it's the sort of chewy and tough flavorless buns that you get for cheap
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May 8, 2017 01:02
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Hot Diggity! posted:Also Seahawks DT Jarran Reed is under investigation for domestic violence. the Seahawks sure have a lot of wifebeaters on the team
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May 10, 2017 17:11
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Mr. Nice! posted:Maybe Rodgers is a volcel and you shouldn't project your homophobia onto him. This reminded me of this amazing photograph 
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May 10, 2017 20:24
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a neat cape posted:If you've already failed multiple drug tests maybe don't put yourself in a position to fail more drug tests like a moron idk Flikken posted:It does feel that way. I would like to remind everyone that his failed tests were codeine in his cough medicine, pot at such a low level that if they had reversed the order of the samples he would have passed and taking a drink on a plane after his season ended but not the league year. it's not like he's hitting a dozen blunts a day the Josh Gordon situation is really loving dumb and weed being banned is double dumb
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May 11, 2017 18:56
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http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/05/08/nick-buoniconti-dolphins-cognitive-decline-nfl-head-trauma-concussionsquote:Buoniconti doesn’t explain that he can’t figure out how to knot a tie or towel his back. He doesn’t speak of his increasingly useless left hand, the increasingly frequent trips to the emergency room or how, just a few days earlier at his home on Long Island, he hurtled backward down a staircase and sprayed blood all over the hardwood, screaming afterward at Lynn, “I should just kill myself! It doesn’t matter!” He doesn’t mention the three staples subsequently crimped into his scalp, doesn’t explain that just yesterday—in a fit of unexplainable pique, and against his own doctor’s orders—he had another physician come to his hotel room and yank those staples out. quote:It’s so random. Hendricks has only minor memory lapses. Some of Buoniconti’s Dolphins teammates, meanwhile, are crumbling. Quarterback Earl Morrall, the supersub so key to the Perfect Season, died at 79, in 2014, with Stage 4 CTE. Running back Jim Kiick, 70, lived in squalor until he was placed in an assisted living facility last summer with dementia/early onset Alzheimer’s. Bill Stanfill, a defensive end who long suffered from dementia, died in November at 69. His brain and spine were sent to the CTE center at Boston University, where the disease has been found in 96% of players’ brains studied. (Granted, that’s 96% of a group whose medical or playing history already suggests some sort of brain disease.) quote:The family liked the story, but I didn’t speak to Nick again. Then, last October, he left a phone message. Nick, his words slightly halting, asked me to call him back and recited his number. “Okay,” he said. “Goodbye.”
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May 12, 2017 02:45
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weird Asian candy posted:RIP Tom. Or don't you arrogant mother fucker! Get used to seeing this posted in GDTs, guys.
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May 12, 2017 16:12
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Amy Pole Her posted:You literally don't watch football because it's such a blood sport yet you're ranking QBs eh? dang you're really stung over Tannehill's position
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May 13, 2017 17:41
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Diqnol posted:It's somewhat refreshing to see that of the qb tier arguments this offseason it is on about barely entrenched starters instead of the very top of the group. It's because the QBs at the top are old enough that most of them will retire within the next three seasons so 1. their body of work is established and arguments won't change history 2. there's no point trying to puff up their future since there isn't one also 3. there's been a huge influx of young quarterbacks into the league starting positions in the past four or so years
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May 13, 2017 20:52
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I have nothing else to do today and I'm tired of reading about the Trump trainwreck. No particular sorting within groups. Feel free to skip this post. --- The best of the best, these players can almost singlehandedly deliver a championship: Brady, Rodgers, Brees Very good quarterbacks who can pave the path to a Super Bowl but need a solid team to put it over the top: Ryan, Newton, Wilson, Rivers Quality, franchise quarterbacks who are responsible for far more wins than for losses, even in the playoffs, and will be part of their team's history and legacy: Luck, Carr, Flacco, Roethlisberger, Stafford, Cousins The next group are all pretty much equally good and any differences are nitpicks at best as of right now. They're competent enough to play quarterback well in the NFL and are assets to their team, but they won't be able to save a team's season or to push their teams forward through the playoff wall. Their effectiveness is very dependent on their coaching and teammates. There are three distinct subgroups: players who are trending upwards every season and have a future; players who either have hit their ceiling or show few signs of large improvement in the future; and players who are declining either due to age or due to being figured out by the league. A bunch of QBs from this group will level up or level down come this autumn. C+: Mariota, Prescott, Winston C: Tannehill, Alex Smith, Dalton, Wentz C-: Eli Manning, Palmer, Bradford, Taylor, Bortles Anyone below this level are stopgaps at best and are always in threat of being replaced by a better player.
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Grittybeard posted:This seems at the same time very kind to Bortles and also selling him short. Bortles has been as good as Eli Manning over the past two seasons and I honestly think that right now Bortles would perform as well as the other quarterbacks in that 'C' tier if he was put onto a given team and had to start a game for them. Over time? It's looking like he's not receiving the necessary coaching and it's also seeming like defenses are getting better at shutting down his tendencies.
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May 13, 2017 21:57
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Elishacode:code:code:
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May 13, 2017 22:09
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:It's funny to me that some of you think that Ben isn't tier 2 who sometimes flirts with tier 1. He's clearly not Brady or Rodgers, but theres's been like 3, maybe 4 guys in the last 2 decades who have the physical tools to make the pass he made to win 43 I agree, actually. For most of his career he's been what Cam Newton is right now for the Panthers, albeit with much better passing effectiveness and tools. He's getting old and I think the four I placed above him are clearly better than him right-now. If we were making legacy rankings that took their bodies of work in account then I think it would look very different.
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2015/16 Bort would probably be way better on most other teams. Imagine him with three years of Reid coaching on the Chiefs.
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Eifert Posting posted:Skull I think the offense around Bort is actually kind of enviable. Their line is bad but the skill positions are pretty nuts. I will say one thing though, I had thought he had thrown about ten more picks than he did. More nuts than the Raiders, Chiefs, or Steelers?
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May 14, 2017 06:14
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just once in my life I want to see a quarterback tackle the person who picked them off and then beat the poo poo out of them
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May 14, 2017 06:25
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New helmets this season: https://www.inc.com/kevin-j-ryan/25-nfl-teams-will-wear-soft-vicis-helmet.htmlquote:Seattle-based startup Vicis has been working since 2013 on a new type of football helmet that's designed to yield on contact. The result is a thud sound, instead of the violent crack players and fans are used to hearing. The softer impact means less trauma to the head, and the theory is that this will reduce the likelihood of brain injuries or concussions. quote:Last week, the NFL released the results of its annual lab tests that study which helmets best reduce the severity of impact to the head. Of the 33 helmets the NFL tested, the Zero1 finished first--beating out 23 helmets from Riddell and Schutt Sports, two companies that currently account for a combined 90 percent of all football helmet sales. Results: https://www.playsmartplaysafe.com/resource/helmet-laboratory-testing-performance-results/ edit: linked for huge, but the difference is quite visible SKULL.GIF fucked around with this message at 20:46 on May 14, 2017 |
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Raku posted:cmonnnn cutler/gruden! Give me a three-way of Cutler/Gruden with Rex as sideline reporter Oh yes
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"Rebuilding" by completely tanking 2+ seasons never really works out. The way the Broncos and Cardinals (to name a couple recent examples) did it is way better, but obviously not attainable for most teams. Also it's much easier to attract talent if the team seems at least somewhat competitive rather than going 2-14.
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https://twitter.com/fieldyates/status/864112854873624576 Where's my $55k?
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May 15, 2017 17:56
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I wonder if it'd be healthier for the NFL and its players to implement weight maximums.
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May 16, 2017 21:30
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SHOAH NUFF posted:why? Did some digging around and it looks like this is it: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2000/08/21/the-hardest-test quote:Such speedy, boozy days now seem almost innocent; and they were innocent in that Coppi’s use of la bomba didn’t contravene cycling regulations of the day—amphetamines were declared illegal only in the mid-sixties. The quantum leap came when drugs designed to stimulate were replaced—or, in real terms, joined—by drugs designed to fortify, notably growth hormones and EPO (erythropoietin), the synthetic version of a naturally occurring hormone which is often prescribed for dialysis and chemotherapy patients. Instead of helping suppress pain and giving you the illusion that you were stronger than you actually were, the new drugs really did make you stronger. In addition, Maso explained, “There are no bad days, as with amphetamines.” From the early to the mid-nineties, EPO became the drug of choice among many professional cyclists. Its function is to raise the red-blood-cell count, which sends more oxygen to the tissues, thus increasing your endurance and your powers of recovery. If there are two riders of equal ability, the one taking EPO will beat the one who remains clean; it is as simple as that. EPO was banned in 1990, even though its actual presence could not be proved; only its suspicious consequences were detectable.
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:No. They NFL would do something stupid like weigh them on game day or 24 hours before and you'd have super dehydrated players dying after UFC style weight cuts. Doing last-minute cutting would have an impact on your game performance though, wouldn't it? And in this scenario you'd have weekly weigh-ins or something, and it would at least prevent players from ballooning up to 350+ and/or needing to eat every two hours to maintain.
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https://twitter.com/andy_benoit/status/864184612632883200 https://twitter.com/Andy_Benoit/status/864206216091713536
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Eli Wiggum posted:Gimmick or not, his final 15-paragraph post in TFF was hella dumb What was this? I missed it. MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Gimmicks don't write manifestos imo. Can you imagine LWB or AAC doing similar? No, but I remember Lloyd Christmas.
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May 17, 2017 19:35
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What's weird is Parm used to be a relatively normal poster but then some neurons got knocked loose and he went nuts.
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Spoeank posted:I'm also the tacit admission that he doesn't know how to evaluate rookie QBs well yeah how can you evaluate a rookie on their NFL play when they haven't actually played in the NFL?
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May 22, 2017 01:37
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Shangri-Law School posted:I strongly approve of whatever the Bears are doing. 
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https://www.theplayerstribune.com/jermichael-finley-packers-injury-retirement/ Jermichael Finley talks about his career-ending injury and his concussions, and the neurotherapy he received afterwards to treat symptoms of concussed brain. A few quotes: quote:Four weeks earlier, in Cincinnati, I had suffered a concussion against the Bengals. I was running a route up the seam and when I stretched out for the ball, a safety came down and popped me while another guy rolled up over me from behind. I took a knee to my head, then my head hit the ground. quote:So that’s what I thought had happened. It’s not like the guy blew me up or anything. It wasn’t a huge collision. I just saw number 39 coming and put my head down to protect my knees, and he just caught me on the crown of my helmet. quote:I had already seen my personality start to change after the neck injury, but after I officially retired, it got even worse. I would wake up every morning grumpy and agitated. I became really quiet. Sometimes Courtney would try to talk to me and I would just get irritated. Every now and then I’d snap at her, but most of the time I would just walk away or take a long drive. I wasn’t angry, I was just … awkward. Even with people around town. It was like I forgot how to talk to people. quote:That hit me pretty hard. I don’t know why, but I started thinking about some of the former NFL players I had heard about who were really hurting — you know, the older guys — and I wondered if the stuff I was going through was just the beginning. I wondered if it was going to get worse over time, like it probably did for them. The mood swings. The memory loss. That wasn’t the way I wanted to live, and that wasn’t how I wanted my three boys to see me. quote:And I honestly believe that if it weren’t for my wife and my kids, I never would have gotten any kind of help, and 10 years from now, I might have ended up one of those former players who put a bullet in his chest. Watching that hit still makes me angry, it's just such an incredibly dirty hit. There's no reason whatsoever to be leading with your helmet like that on a tackle, much less aiming for someone's head.
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