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lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016
I hope they abort the Iron Islands plot just like they aborted Dorne's plot last season. Have Euron hit a rock and anticlimaticly sink. Move to the interesting stuff please.

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lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Oh right, Shame Nun got raped to death. Forgot about that.

I love that Cersei is so petty that her "Win Everything" plan had to have a special subsection dedicated to getting revenge on Shame Nun. Like all it would have taken for her plan to fail is for someone to notice that Shame Nun was missing.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016
Since season 1 my friends have always come to my place to watch Game of Thrones because they didn't have HBO.

Since then we've all graduated and got jobs. They have HBO now but they still came over today for tradition's sake.

They said they will watch the show at their respective houses next week.

That's how boring this episode was. Game of Thrones left me friendless :saddowns:

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

In It For The Tank posted:

The gift Euron brings is the captured Yara + Sand Snakes after he smashes Yara's fleet.

Euron's gift is Gendry, he found him rowing near Qarth.

...remember Qarth?

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

In It For The Tank posted:

It would have been interesting, but it's Yara and the Sand Snakes.

Good, I hope they mutually kill each other. We need more dumb plot abortion.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016
The Hound and Arya's scenes were the highlight of this episode, and only 50% of them.

Arya bonding with good Lannister guys was good. Arya mission impossibling all the Freys was fanfic and lame.

The Hound's guilt trip over the peasant and his daughter was good. The Hound gaining psychic plot tracking powers was bad.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

WampaLord posted:

You realize she's going to kill them all, right?

That has to be where this is going. It's way too obviously a "I might have to kill people that are nice?" kind of thing

That's why it was good. It shows how her lust for revenge has consumed her and turned her into the kind of person she despises cliche, but it was done in a good way. The show has had a lack of nuance for a while.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016
The Hound's and Arya's scene offer a good narrative contrast.

The Hound feels sorry for the death of the family that welcomed him in their house and fed him and regrets his actions.

Arya berated the Hound for his actions, and yet now apparently she will kill the soldiers that invited her to their fire and fed her.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

Calaveron posted:

Jorah's supposed to cure himself of his greyscale right

Sam will find a cure in the restricted section.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

Atarask posted:

Well if he captures and kills Tyrion...

Nah, the show doesn't have the balls. Everything "ballsy" the show did was because it happened in the books, but whenever they could get away with removing ballsy moments that might have harmed the popularity of a fan favorite character they did so.

lezard_valeth fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Jul 17, 2017

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

Barreft posted:

Found it:

Game Of Thrones season 7: Euron Greyjoy actor says he’ll make Ramsay Bolton ‘look like a little kid’
http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/19/game-of-thrones-season-7-euron-greyjoy-actor-says-hell-make-ramsay-bolton-look-like-a-little-kid-6719273/

At best, he will kill a dragon. And not even the important one.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

Barreft posted:

Like Sansa getting raped? Forgot that scene in the books.

Since when was Sansa a fan favorite character?

Everything twisted or morally ambiguous Tyrion, Jon or Daenerys did in the books was completely scraped in the case of the former 2, or played with fanfare BGM to lead the viewer into believing it was ok in the case of the latter.

Those 3 characters are untouchable in the show, at least till the very last 2 episodes of the final season.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

Lycus posted:

Not having Peter Dinklage rape a slave girl is likely for the best.

I was talking more about having Shae reach out for the knife first making Tyrion killing her an act of self defense

Specially since the show till that point had been building Shae as truly being in love with him unlike her book counterpart

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

Lycus posted:

It wasn't really, though. Grabbing a weapon is natural when someone sneaks into the room in the dead of night. And he still ran and jumped in the bed to kill her. People didn't root for Tyrion because it was "self defense", they rooted for Tyrion "because she was a bitch".

Then how about cooking a bard into soup because he was gonna tattletale

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016
Alternatively, Euron could end up being a salty loser that before being defeated blows the horn of Joramund (or w/e it's called) bringing down the wall.

Not sure that would make people hate him more than Ramsay, but maybe, just maybe the actor is over exaggerating to hype his own character.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

InFlames235 posted:

IMO it'd be worse to bring her back and have her character do nothing meaningful at all. Might as well just keep Beric with his flaming sword.

Revenge Zombie Catelyn as a character is not interesting because Revenge Zombie, but what could be interesting is the interaction other characters could potentially get with her.

For instance, she could come across Sansa and see her with Littlefinger and feel betrayed and plan to kill her. Arya comes across Catelyn trying to kill Sansa and realizes that revenge is bad and she was heading down that same path and have to mercy kill Catelyn to save Sansa.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

some guy on the bus posted:

Bullshit. All those Freys could have and should have been slowly killed by her over the last two seasons rather than have them all killed in a 3 minute throwaway nothing scene. Non-book readers would have loving loved that poo poo. Especially in Season 5 when there wasn't much happening that people liked. Lady Stoneheart killing Freys would have been a lot of people's second favorite part of Season 5 after Hardhome had it happened.

Personally what I find most upsetting about the removal of the Lady Stoneheart arc is that she dies truly believing that all her children are dead and that Ned cheated on her. At least in Revenge Zombie mode she gets to find out that both Sansa and Arya are still alive.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

Feels Villeneuve posted:

"as cleanly as possible"

Benioff and Weiss clearly have a different understanding of this concept. The Dorne coupe was cartoonishly hilarious.

I feel so bad for Hotah and his sexy spear wife.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

Feels Villeneuve posted:

Also I was kind of sad that Euron immediately left because Kings Landing seems to have like three people in it right now.

Another reason why killing Ros so early on was a bad idea. How are we gonna get Littlefinger's Pimp House gratuitous sexposition this season?

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

TOOT BOOT posted:

In 50 years shows will just montages of murder and loving to keep people's attention.

I will pay you to produce said show now

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

drunken officeparty posted:

With the teleporting thing, I feel that way about real history sometimes. Like I straight up don't understand how things got done in ye olde days. Roman consuls served for one year, how they managed to make an army, march it to wherever away, fight stuff and come back all while also being able to be up to date on stuff at home is a mystery to me. It would take me longer to walk to my closest Walmart than it apparently took Julias Ceasar to get from Italy to Egypt.

Probably someone did the math on the timeline.

After all, a guy on youtube worked a whole theory to explain the irregular lengths of GoT's winters involving 2-3 suns with equations and other math sorcery to back it up.

The real answer is don't be that guy. Just don't think about it and enjoy the tits and dragons and tittied dragons

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

Supreme Allah posted:

"mommy some singer gently caress got on my dragon show!"

new thread title?

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

disjoe posted:

Then why is Sam like WAIT A MINUTE THATS DRAGONGLASS

He had to find something out this episode that was not very important so that he can later get frustrated at his lack of findings and then Gilly offhandledly reads a random paragraph and Sam goes like "OMG GILLY THAT'S THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING!".

This will be in episode 7. The rest of Sam's participation in this season will consist of more poop montage.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

Niwrad posted:

My theory is they used Ed Sheeran in that role because she'll use his face to get access somewhere to kill Jaime or Cersei. You wouldn't remember the face of a random actor in a 2 minutes scene many episodes down the line, but you will remember Ed Sheeran.

If I'm not misremembering I read there will be a lot of other "celebrities" cameos this season, so I wouldn't make that big of a deal out of it. Just HBO's way of saying "hahaha look at all the money we made out of this show"

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016
So Nymeria shows up next episode apparently. That's neat. Hope she doesn't die cause CGI is too expensive.

Also when Euron said he was bringing a gift, my first thought was that the show had forgotten Rickon Stark had already died

but my second thought was Gendry. I find it hilarious that the show runners that are super obsessed in wrapping up every single plot thread despite the author of the book saying "hey this may not have a satisfying ending for everyone" have so far completely forgotten about Gendry.

I want the show to end without any mention of him again so we can rename the Chuck Cunningham trope into The Gendry.

Of course, most likely he is gonna show up next season out of nowhere with an army to save Jon from the zombies and fend them off back to back like their fathers (or fake fathers) did.

lezard_valeth fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Jul 18, 2017

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

drunken officeparty posted:

It's a dargon, he's bringing her a dargon

Nah, leaked images confirm it's Yara and the Bad Pussies

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016
If he kills them that heavily contradicts his claim that everyone will hate Euron more than Ramsay.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016
Rewatching the episode now. Daenerys arrival to Dragonstone reminded me of this



if this continued into "You've taken your first step into the Tohjo Falls....you've taken your first step into Victory Road....and now you are taking your first step into Indigo Plateau"

Why did that scene dragged on for so long? Any drama was lost after the first loop of the Targaryen theme.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016
When I first saw the episode I was expecting a cripple joke

Like them glancing towards Bran's legs with a look of "how many cripples claiming to be Jon Snow's supposedly dead brother do you think are living in zombie wasteland?"

Regardless I'm glad Edd is back. Boomed down that he will be remembered as the Commander under whose watch the Wall went down.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

banned from Starbucks posted:

So the white walkers are marching their army around the wall? So whats the point of the wall

Season will end with zombie Hodor blowing the Horn of Joramun and the Wall coming down. The attacks at Eastwatch are mostly so that the Night's King can cash in his check for this unnecesary paddled season.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

emanresu tnuocca posted:

The funny thing is that hardhome to eastwatch is about a fifth of the distance from castle black to winterfell so unless the night's king was purposefully waiting for Jon to sort out his season 6 plot lines he should have already overtaken the under garrisoned castle.

In the show's defense (what the gently caress am I doing) after Hardhome the Night's King went to gently caress around the Heart of Winter where his zombie horde dramatically stared down a mountain. Then they paid a visit to the Forest Elves and Discount Gandalf and chased Bran down till they got bored and went do something else.

You just don't remember the Night's King doing all this stuff because you are used to characters sitting on their assess waiting for a candle for a whole season. Or getting wasted and cracking eunuch jokes. Or straight out dissapearing for a full season and returning to die offscreen.

lezard_valeth fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Jul 18, 2017

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016
What annoys me about the whole Greyjoy thing in the show is that...they LOST. These guys that had like a fleet of 100 ships and men to sail them, and then could built 1000 more ships and have more men to sail them in a small amount of time LOST the rebellion.

Up till last season the Greyjoys were a joke family not much unlike the Freys (and the show kept drawing attention to this parallel this very episode to boot!). Everyone that interacted with Theon went like "hahaha your family sucks", they barely had enough men to take some understaffed northern keeps or mount a proper rescue mission to save Theon, and now they have the GREATEST FLEET OF THE 14 SEAS!!

This is what makes me not take show Euron seriously at all, the fact that he arrived too late to the game, had 2 scenes that together don't add up to more than 10 minutes and was suddenly promoted to arc villain after the previous arc villain died and the show and the actor want to make us believe he is more :moreevil: than a psycho kid who killed the decoy protagonist, was a dick to everyone and had 2 powerful armies full of named characters on his side, or the psycho teen that gave us a full season of torture porn and shirtless plot armor, gave us another season of rape and 20 good men, gave us YET another season of plot armor of winning and had the North and Stannis' army on his side.

lezard_valeth fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jul 18, 2017

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

Elias_Maluco posted:

In the books he also brought a shitload of gold with him, didint it? I dont remember if that happens on the show

And a magic dragon horn, and a ship full of warlocks than can make his ships sail even when there is no wind and is the only named character that had the resources (be it gold, blood, or cake, I don't remember if it's ever made clear) to hire a Faceless Man to do his bidding.

And then he ties his brother to the prow of the ship for shits and giggles

How can you not love this guy?

lezard_valeth fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jul 18, 2017

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016
Oh, and also the fact that in the books, he claims that he was able to sail and return from Not-Mordor something considered to be impossible. He may be lieing, but he has the horn and Valyrian armor to back up his claims.

In the show Valyria instead is bookSorrows and is not very remarkable.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

drunken officeparty posted:

I thought the faceless men were just hitmen. If it's so hard to hire them then what do they do the othet 364 days of the year? Sit and wait for one of the 12 people who can afford them to want someone dead?

It's never made clear, but it's also hinted that gold or killing some random shmuck as payment ala Dark Brotherhood won't work. They are...mysterious.

Like the origin story of them has the slaves of Valyria asking for freedom from the slavers who force them to work in the mines all their life...so the Faceless Man kills them all. The slaves, not the slavers. Can't remember if the show brought this up.

But then, there's this ship insurance guy, who promises he will pay money to your family if your ship sinks, but then scams them, and apparently one of the widows manages to hire them to kill him without backfiring into "lol here let my knife free you"

Or maybe they are just trolls :shrug:

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016
I too would severe all my links to social media if I saw the entire world go retarded over something so petty, my dear Goon nº 2.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016
I think that """"""""""""""""""""""""the mark""""""""""""""""""""""""""" was something they pulled out of their rear end to force the plot to move on and will not have any impact nor be mentioned ever again.

The wall will probably come down somehow else.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016
What my imagination just can't come up with is a way in which Bran would be useful at all in the fight against the Night's King.

Unless witheld from the audience, he didn't gain any valuable information from Raven that the other characters didn't find out on their own via trial and error or by reading a book

He doesn't seem to have any special sorcery power outside of warging and seeing the past. Some theories said the "you will fly" thing meant he would warg into a dragon and control him during the fight, but that makes sense in the books were Dany can't control the Dragons and at best can bond only to one, but in the show they are puppies.

I guess if he could learn how to warg into multiple things at once then it would be useful to warg into a bunch of zombies and have them sabotaging the army from the inside.

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

Nail Rat posted:

That has to happen after Jon fucks Dany though, otherwise I don't think he'd gently caress his aunt knowingly.

If he's told afterwards he'll probably just be like "well that ship has sailed so..."

They are Targaryens.

Learning that they are relatives is what will compel them to gently caress.

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lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016

jfood posted:

"Hey guys, I have a dick. Vote for me." is pretty believable when it comes to the delicate, nuanced power structure and succession rites of the Iron Islands.

"Hey guys, check out my wardrobe and impressive collection of knick-knacks"... not so much.

It's more a case of "Hey guys, I sailed where no one has ever sailed which automatically makes me the best pirate ever" logic that is pretty believable to sway the primitive iron islanders

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