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Brad Meltzer went full retard stupid with Identity Crisis. It pretty much took a steaming poo poo on top of every lighthearted or heroic moment in DC by introducing the possibility that Zatanna was going around mind-raping villains who were literally raping people. That being said, it had some good Batman moments when he was trying to help save Robin's dad (not even Identity Crisis could gently caress up Batman): 
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May 11, 2017 12:19
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Gammatron 64 posted:In general, superhero comics are so terrible it's unreal. I dunno how people can stick with this poo poo for decades and not get burnt out on it. Being a fan of Marvel or DC is like being in an abusive relationship. I can only take "yeah baby I'm sorry I didn't mean to smack you I won't do it again" so many times before I file for divorce I like DC's characters, but I'm pretty much done with their comics until they can stay with a continuity for more than 5 years or get rid of Dan DiDio. Last I heard, they're bringing The Watchmen into continuity in some ridiculously contrived event.
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May 11, 2017 17:44
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That Robot posted:lol where is this from? I'm guessing Outsiders? The other characters are Grace Choi and Thunder.
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May 11, 2017 17:51
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What if they bring the gooniest moment in DC comics to the silver screen?
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May 12, 2017 01:44
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Neurosis posted:A lot of people hated this and Infinite Crisis in general (general theme of the comic: the idealistic silly old comics aren't coming back, stuff is hard and comics are better for it) but I found Superboy Prime - basement dweller funny. I do like Superboy Prime the Internet Troll. It was the only thing that came out of Infinite Crisis that I liked.
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May 12, 2017 01:51
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8-Bit Scholar posted:This is a really good comic, of due note, and it explores the importance and nature of secret identities in really great ways. People deride it for being "dark", which it is, but I've always found this seems to be out of objection to the fact that there's rape and women get murdered rather than objection to the story, which really raises some serious grey area questions about the nature of the Justice League, the power they wield, and of course the importance of memories. When I first read Identity Crisis, I liked it because for the same reasons. However, the more I thought about it, the more I changed my mind. It would have made for a fantastic Elseworlds story, like Kingdom Come or The Nail, but it completely FUBAR'd DC's continuity by taking a stinky dump on the lighthearted history of those characters. It's something that they've been reeling from ever since, as evidenced by DiDio & Co making GBS threads out a new Crisis or retcon every couple of years. It also goes without saying that the comic didn't need a graphic rape scene. I'm in the camp that agrees that artists should have the creative license to delve into the darker areas of human nature, but that was disgusting and in poor taste.
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May 12, 2017 04:35
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basic hitler posted:every time I think "i'm going to get into comics", something happens. Either I read a ridiculous loving panel from the silver age or some cheesy grimdark poo poo that should only appeal to a certain kind of angsty 13 year old and I just think, naaah. It's a big medium with a testy fanbase, so it's hard to like everything. I like tongue-in-cheek stuff more, so I really enjoyed Cable & Deadpool. It had a good run and the two played off of each other pretty well. The Insuperable Squirrel Girl is also pretty fun IMHO. She beats a lot of bad guys with troll reasoning, and you get to see a more pensive side of Galactus in one issue.
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May 12, 2017 04:52
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Troposphere posted:
It's even stupider when you find out who did it.
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May 12, 2017 04:53
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Similarly, I'm not sure what "lighthearted history" this story is making GBS threads upon. It's a dark story using familiar characters to tell it. The purpose of superhero stories, in the grand lexicon of human expression, is to serve as modern day sources of myth. DC's heroes are as much concepts as they are people, and so they're ideal for a story where they explore the potentially horrifying consequences of a superhero lifestyle. I'm talking about the early Teen Titans runs, where teenage superheroes took down bumbling villains like Dr. Light. 8-Bit Scholar posted:I can't argue taste or no taste; all my life I've basically been consuming media filled with tons of violent and sexual imagery so I guess I've a tolerance for it now, but to my understanding the rape is portrayed as a horrific action and not just some sort of excuse for titillation. I might be misremembering, it's been a long time since I read it. As I recall also, it is the crime that causes the protagonists to make the instrumental choice about the memory wiping, isn't it? So it's not completely superfluous, though again, I may be misremembering some points. It wasn't just that they wiped villain memories, it's that they messed with their minds as well. Zatanna's magic made the villains goofy, adding a darker subtext to why the Teen Titans were taking down villains like Dr. Light. It also implied that Superman knew about it and didn't care, and then showed that Batman was mind-wiped as well. Troposphere posted:it's dumb as hell actually Seconded.
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May 12, 2017 06:47
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Here are some of the better times of goofy DC stuff 
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Yeah that's kind of dope, as I said it presents a kind of sobering look at the reaches of the Justice League's power and the consequences for allowing your secret identity to be revealed. The primary threat of the whole story is that the love interests or families of capes would be threatened; to what extent would they go to address that? If the only limit on their power is a refusal to kill, are there not even worse things that might prompt them to do? It's a weird way to retcon some stuff, as DC likes to do, while writing a dark murder mystery that explores broad genre issues and concepts. Yes, which is what would make it a good Elseworlds story to explore, not a stealth retcon that affects the entire universe.
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May 12, 2017 07:05
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Troposphere posted:superbuddies was the best thing DC ever did and didio is a moron for ruining it Someone needs to get rid of DiDio. Someone call Jean Loring.
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May 12, 2017 07:06
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Let's find good moments and let the healing begin:  
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May 12, 2017 07:59
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Jukeboxblues posted:I'm sorry that your yet unformed prefrontal cortex fails to see the reason as to why that's so deeply profound (Batdad (as I call him) using a gun). You see the main flaw with Batman as a character is that whilst he says he never kills anyone, by not killing the bad guys he is allowing innocent people to die. You see, once you have achieved mental maturity (I'm 23 but my mom says I have an old soul simply because I am quite was and refined as a person. I believe this is most likely due to some sort of anomaly within my genes leaving me with an overdeveloped mind), you can clearly see that by not killing people such as The Joker, Bane, Killer Croc etc you are doing more harm than good. You imprison them all within the same institute allowing them to plot and "team up" when they would have otherwise never have met (see the myriad of articles about why prison actually makes you a better criminal). Geez, dude. 
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turn off the TV posted:Man, Marvel really missed an opportunity to have a scene where the Winter Soldier rapes Tony Stark's mom while eating her alive instead of just shooting her. Really goes to show that the Marvel movies are kiddy garbage. Don't worry, I'm sure they'll follow the storyline where Carol Danvers gives birth to her own rapist in Captain Marvel. http://www.cbr.com/things-that-turned-out-bad-that-time-carol-danvers-gave-birth-to-her-own-rapist/ http://www.cbr.com/meta-messages-chris-claremont-sticks-up-for-ms-marvel/ There will probably even be a cute little post-credit scene where the Avengers congratulate her for the good news! 
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Rutibex posted:how did Beast from the xmen get into an Avengers comic? He was a member for a bit.
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May 13, 2017 05:02
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:To be fair to marvel everyone looked at the dude who wrote that like he was insane and then never brought it up again And yet they let it happen. It's like how DC dropped the ball when they let Grant Morrison create Damian Wayne by having Talia date-rape Bruce. I know Grant said that he made a mistake in doing that, but it seems like DC liked the angle and ran with it: http://io9.gizmodo.com/this-scene-from-son-of-batman-is-just-shockingly-creepy-1714477094 Because there's nothing sexier than remembering when someone drugged you, took advantage of you, and turned your child into the antithesis of what you stand for.
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Dr. VooDoo posted:This is Marvel not DC but they should make a movie on the Spider-Man story where he's an old man who killed Mary Jane by giving her cancer with radioactive sperm and fights a bunch of cops during a riot started by J. Jonah Jameson in nothing but his mask and underwear I'm sure that this will be part of Marvel's Phase 5
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food court bailiff posted:speaking of terrible people in comics named miller what's mark millar been up to lately What is it with Scottish comic book writers and retarded ideas?  On a lighter note, I'd pay good money to see an animated Squirrel Girl movie as long as it's written by Ryan North. 
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May 14, 2017 08:10
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Gaunab posted:Squirrel girl got a big ol butt (oh yeah) Funny you mention that... 
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May 14, 2017 08:19
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:Seeking context for this, I found "16 demented Green Lantern stories that we're sure won't be in the movie", which is pretty fun. Hal Jordan sucks. John Stewart = best Green Lantern
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May 16, 2017 01:28
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  I found this while looking for more DC gold: http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-worst-moments-in-dc-comics.php It has the Superman/Big Barda porno story. I wanted to highlight this little tidbit, though: quote:Jack Kirby, the creator of Big Barda, particularly hated the story. That might have something to do with the fact that he modeled her personality after his own wife.
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May 16, 2017 03:05
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Also, how could I forget this:  
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May 16, 2017 03:20
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ZDar Fan posted:You seem to have misspelled Guy Gardner Guy is a Red Lantern in disguise, but that does remind me of one of Guy's other iterations:   
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May 16, 2017 03:37
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Grant Morrison defined the Anti-Life Equation. That was dumb, and made Jack Kirby roll in his grave.
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May 17, 2017 00:55
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8-Bit Scholar posted:The Jack Kirby New Gods Omnibus is a pro-own for any comic lover. The story where Darkseid's cult turns this entire building into some sort of eldritch energy emitter/death trap was creepy poo poo. I love the trippy-ness of the New Gods and the Forever People. I will have to pick this up.
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May 17, 2017 03:51
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scuba school sucks posted:Just saw King Arthur in theaters. Man that was more of a Robin Hood movie than a King Arthur movie. Goose Fat Bill and Wet Stick Roger aren't friggin Knights of the Round, they're the Merry Men. Guy Ritchie's The Rogues of Sherwood. More CGI than Avatar and more slow-mo than 300 and Dredd put together. Also, no joke, (and somebody else on the Internet has probably already said this) but the main bad guy that the good guy had a climactic battle sequence with at the end of the movie? LITERALLY the dude off the Molly Hatchet album cover. I sometimes wonder if people realize how bad the movie will be when they are making them. I saw the preview that had Arthur wearing an alt-right hair style fighting a giant elephant, and just NOPE'd. If they're going to go through all the trouble of doing that, just make a loving Etrigan and Shining Knight movie. Sir Justin or Sir Ystina, whichever one you care for. Go for the gusto of magic swords, shining armor, wizards, and demons. Awesome:  Awesome:  Lame:  Super-Lame: 
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May 17, 2017 05:24
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Because real men know how to bleach their whites.
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May 17, 2017 05:37
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:Speaking of fan stuff, JL8 would make a great Lego Batman-type movie. I want this to happen. It reminds me of the JLU episode where Mordred turned all adults into children, and Wonder Woman used her powers of "I'm gonna tell!" to get all the rest of the kids to fall in line. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qw7WuiItdA
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Bombadilillo posted:Well I'm going to write a strongly worded email to telltale and demand and Archer series. I've never been interested in those games, but I would play the poo poo out of an Archer one. Just as long as one option allows me to make Woodhouse eat spider webs.
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May 20, 2017 03:49
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This was a fun fan-made Power Girl movie where PG got benched for massive property damage and has to find a job: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUiNFzzF-ZI
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Manga in Japan is a weird thing. They'll write it literally about anything and everything, from high school life to being disembowled by cockroach people. I think what helps manga and webcomics continue to grow readers is that they encourage new stories and end (unless you're freaking One Piece). With Marvel and DC, their icons are double-edged swords. They ARE your brand, but you are punished for changing them or keeping them the same because people like different things. They also don't have to force everything into one continuum. Imagine Doraemon being shoved into Attack on Titan's universe.
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