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in April of 2017, US patents on MP3 audio expired. they are now free (as in speech)quote:The situation was a bit of mess with patents expiring in some countries but not in others. In the EU all relevant patents expired by 2012. In the US it took till April 2017 for the same patents to expire, leaving MP3 effectively free to use. so go ahead and download any mp3s that you want now, it's cool.
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The Management posted:in April of 2017, US patents on MP3 audio expired. they are now free (as in speech) what about Lars feelings though?
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May 13, 2017 16:47
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Metallica sucks
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May 13, 2017 17:10
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mp3.com had free mp3s like 15 years ago
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May 14, 2017 01:42
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I used to download mp3s of video game music on kazaa
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May 14, 2017 03:58
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mp3s have always been free OP
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May 14, 2017 04:00
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Metallica has always sucked OP
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May 14, 2017 04:03
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metallica amongst their entire catalogue has some cool moments for sure there is a cool drum fill in ride the lightning harvester of sorrow is a cool riff
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May 14, 2017 04:10
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free like my love op
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May 14, 2017 04:16
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i use spotify op
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spankmeister posted:i use spotify op Spotify could die at any moment. mp3s are forever. you should be hoarding them and meticulously cataloging and tagging them.
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The Management posted:Spotify could die at any moment. mp3s are forever. you should be hoarding them and meticulously cataloging and tagging them. i did that and then my harddrive failed. got rdio and it went out of business 3 years later.
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May 14, 2017 18:15
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i hate spotify because it's all normie music
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May 14, 2017 18:22
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sorry there's not enough anime soundtracks on spotify for your needs
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May 14, 2017 18:23
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hifi posted:i hate spotify because it's all normie music lmao
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May 14, 2017 18:45
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spankmeister posted:i use spotify op
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May 14, 2017 19:17
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I miss when Netease wasn't blocked in the US.
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how many songs can it hold
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May 15, 2017 02:34
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allofmp3.com ruled
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There Will Be Penalty posted:allofmp3.com ruled came here to post this
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May 15, 2017 13:50
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NO ONE TALKS ABOUT CODECS WITHOUT ME
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May 15, 2017 16:41
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oh good now you will only go to jail for 99 years instead of 100 when you use VLC n a corporate setting
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May 15, 2017 16:42
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320k MP3 is still not the same as PCM.
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May 15, 2017 16:43
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who gives a poo poo
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May 15, 2017 16:43
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and if you listen to prog rock without the studio master you might as well hang up your fedora because it's all downhill from here.
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May 15, 2017 16:44
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MP3 is only two channel and we're in a post channel audio world now so yeah I guess Linux can get stereo now?
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of course MP3 will still be used by vapor wave artists because ,-.:; my warmth bits-,,;: or something.
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May 15, 2017 16:47
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gtfo of my thread idiot
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The Management posted:gtfo of my thread idiot 
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May 15, 2017 16:51
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how did TooL get the five channels on their albums then
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May 15, 2017 17:01
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I listen to FM radio in the car because there are some good local stations and it's fine.
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May 15, 2017 17:02
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emoji posted:I listen to FM radio in the car because there are some good local stations and it's fine. i listen to npr or podcasts like chapo trap house
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May 15, 2017 17:11
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i listen to spotify
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May 15, 2017 17:16
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emoji posted:I listen to FM radio in the car because there are some good local stations and it's fine. I used to produce "The HiFi Show" on Pacifica's KPFT-FM (91.7 if you're keeping score) in Houston back in the 70s. I would regularly disable our Orban signal processor and sometimes even go entirely mono to eliminate the noise of the stereo modulator during my show. The sound quality was just amazing, but I had to watch the gain VERY carefully to not "splash" over our allotted frequency if I overmodulated (the FCC would not have been happy). I would even go out to make live uncompressed recordings or binaural recordings for special headphone shows. My point being that FM can sound great (especially with a great tuner on your end), but the process of making it "competitive" often ruins the fidelity, or at least alters it enough where "fidelity" is no longer the operative concept. PS, there's a great sounding cheesy-looking tiny plastic Sony HD tuner, the XDR-F1HD if you're into trying for "good" FM. HD radio, BTW, does not mean High Definition, but rather Hybrid Digital, essentially different subchannels of digital audio of varying number and quality buried in the frequency bandwidth of an FM analog station. Anyway, this little black box has a very good sounding tuner and analog audio stage for whatever the engineering reason if you're unhappy with your stereo's FM tuner. And it does add all those HD subchannels as part of the bargain. One last addition to the above good comments. When the word "compression" is used in conjunction with MP3 or AAC formats, it means DATA compression (which is to say file size), not DYNAMIC compression (similar to automatic level control or ALC in cheap recorders), which has traditionally been used by FM stations in the "loudness wars" to keep the average signal level nice and loud, and is still depressingly used even recently in remastering CDs. There was some justification in FM use, as many tuners had (and still have) mediocre sensitivity and barely adequate signal to noise ratios, so you were "helping" the listener by boosting the softer musical portions above the "hiss" of the tuner, and also boosting the apparent average loudness of your station's signal in the process. Anyway, google "loudness wars" and you'll get an "earful" about the terrible things currently being done to CDs with very wide dynamic range potential, where sometimes a newly remastered CD is FAR more dynamically compressed than older CD pressings, or even 30 or 40-year-old LPs! So dynamic range compression in broadcasting and CD mastering is used as a tool to make the music seem louder. Psychoacoustic "lossy" compression in music player codecs is designed to throw out what is considered "inaudible" information, but should have no actual effect on the dynamic range of the music being encoded, just some of the fine detail (how "fine" depends on the bit rate). Two different types of compression for two different goals. I'll take a 320k AAC or MP3 over an FM signal for maintaining dynamic range and not screwing around with other parts of the music as much as broadcast processors, no matter how expensive. But shame on record companies who take a potentially reasonable (if not ideal) format like 44.1/16 CD and find a way to make it worse than it has to be!
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Bloody posted:i listen to spotify
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i love how audio engineers cant just answer the loving question
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my goth gf posted:who gives a poo poo
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ill listen to 104.3 in the car or if that gets a bad signal probably bounce between every other station trying to find something good because broadcast radio in phoenix is trash
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ok lets switch this up a bit since we have whiny people here who think this thread "is not for them" what do you think sounds better? AAC downloaded from itunes that you paid for, or the FLAC file you stole online?
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pagancow posted:I used to produce "The HiFi Show" on Pacifica's KPFT-FM (91.7 if you're keeping score) in Houston back in the 70s. I would regularly disable our Orban signal processor and sometimes even go entirely mono to eliminate the noise of the stereo modulator during my show. The sound quality was just amazing, but I had to watch the gain VERY carefully to not "splash" over our allotted frequency if I overmodulated (the FCC would not have been happy). I would even go out to make live uncompressed recordings or binaural recordings for special headphone shows. My point being that FM can sound great (especially with a great tuner on your end), but the process of making it "competitive" often ruins the fidelity, or at least alters it enough where "fidelity" is no longer the operative concept. PS, there's a great sounding cheesy-looking tiny plastic Sony HD tuner, the XDR-F1HD if you're into trying for "good" FM. HD radio, BTW, does not mean High Definition, but rather Hybrid Digital, essentially different subchannels of digital audio of varying number and quality buried in the frequency bandwidth of an FM analog station. Anyway, this little black box has a very good sounding tuner and analog audio stage for whatever the engineering reason if you're unhappy with your stereo's FM tuner. And it does add all those HD subchannels as part of the bargain. Literally everyone on these forums knows about the loudness wars and the difference between data compression and dynamic range compression and FM data streams. 2/10 effort from you.
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