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chitoryu12 posted:So I know the argument for FDR is that he overstepped his boundaries and the Japanese internment. Libertarians and other associated dumbasses sometimes twist themselves into knots trying to prove that the New Deal actually made the Depression worse and/or caused it to begin with, so maybe that? Oh, and he did lead the country into fighting fascism, which many right wingers now think was a mistake.
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chitoryu12 posted:I'd love their justification for how the New Deal started the Great Depression in 1933, 4 years after a gigantic banking crash. They usually claim that 1929 - 33 was just a slightly worse than usual market correction/bubble pop, and only became a full on depression when (((Big Government))) intervened and stole all the gold, etc. Mises.org has a number of articles on this, though I'm having trouble finding the one I'm thinking of that claims it was the actual cause of the Great Depression.
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Badger of Basra posted:grant was a good president and if you think he was bad you're just buying into lost causer bullshit Well, he wasn't as bad a president as he's usually portrayed by Confederate apologists, I'll give you that much.
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punk rebel ecks posted:I recall hearing on Hardcore History that Woodrow Wilson almost locked up tens of thousands of socialists in Chicago or something into some type of camp. Memory is a little fuzzy. Wilson was an extremely poo poo president, yes.
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punk rebel ecks posted:Could people elaborate what makes Wilson so lovely besides the proposed socialist camp. I looked him up on Google but all the criticisms I see come from the far right. He was a staggering racist, for one. Dude screened "Birth of a Nation" in the White House, and called it "history writ with lightning," and that it was terrible that it was all so very true. On the action side, he also went out of his way to keep black people out of the civil service and segregate any who'd managed to get jobs within it previously.
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P-Mack posted:Basically they wanted to portray him as a frontier simpleton unfit for and disinterested I the intellectual demands of the office, so someone said something like, "he'd be just as happy in a log cabin with a jug of hard cider as in the white house." This may have played as intended with the big city folks, but since the franchise had been expanded there were an awful lot of log cabin dwelling cider drinkers for whom it made them like Harrison more. The Harrison campaign leaned into it and brought cider to rallies which was generally a good way to win friends. "In English coaches, he's no rider, but he can fight and drinks hard cider," was the slogan the Harrison campaign used to turn the "log cabin hick" attack against Van Buren, specifically targeting the supposedly elitist/effete aspects of Van Buren's presidency (who had bought a fancy new carriage for the white house shortly before the campaign season opened). Badger of Basra posted:why is he trying to bankrupt a bunch of fracking companies He's a total idiot. 
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I was thinking the same thing, but despite the best efforts of Cheney and Rumsfeld, none of the current wars are total wars.
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