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bushisms.txt posted:As an internet faux argument as far as inspiration goes, I kind of get what you're saying, but Wright actually had nothing to do with Luis' scenes... That was the point he was making. Wright gets credit for parts of Ant-Man he had nothing to do with.
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# ¿ May 21, 2017 02:52 |
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McCloud posted:Honestly, while I thought it was a good movie, i think it's a bit undeserving of all the praise it get. Part of me wonders if it's due to it starring the first female superhero (yes I know about catwoman and electra, shut up). This is not a bad thing mind, as I realise that Wonder woman has a symbolic value for a lot of women, and I am thrilled they got a hero that inspires them. Diana did not do anything to save 'innocent soldiers.' She heard about how a town had been captured and the people there were effectively being held as slaves. She went to save the townspeople, not soldiers. It's an intentional parallel to how her own people were enslaved and that is in fact exactly what sets her off.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2017 21:39 |
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"A female lead can only be good if she never actually expresses anything definitively feminine in any way" is always a crappy argument. Even if it wasn't a 5 second scene there's nothing wrong with a character expressing maternal feelings nor does it make them less badass. (primary example is one Ripley, Ellen.)
ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Jun 23, 2017 |
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hiddenriverninja posted:We are a ways away from a true Elseworlds/what if live action movie. Not that they shouldn't try, though. Logan literally came out this year.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2017 09:32 |
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Yeah, both ignore that DCU produced the best (and probably the first truly great) superhero movie and its good sequel. But DCU didn't produce Mystery Men?
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# ¿ Jul 28, 2017 21:51 |
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Well, the frequency of complaints from both audiences and professional reviewers about things that are, in fact, good and thematically appropriate is a good place to start. Maybe someone can disagree with you that something is good or thematically appropriate without being stupid? I actually agree with your reading, for the record, and I thought it was a good decision, but it's so tiresome how people who claim to want a variety of readings always retreat back to "you don't support my reading you must be stupid!!" ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Jul 29, 2017 |
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Guy A. Person posted:I don't disagree with this sentiment necessarily, but I think the context of how this got started is important. Namely, Kawabata appealing to the authority of "most critics and audience" thinking a part of a movie is bad. It's just as tiresome when the "most people agree with me that [this movie] is [good/bad]" card gets played. Well, I think it's kind of a complex issue. I think something can both be thematically and storyline appropriate and not executed well enough to live up to its potential. This is obviously a place where a lot of people are going to disagree. "This scene looked ridiculous" for example can hit "That was intentional and it's good" "That was unintentional and its bad" "That was intentional but was bad" and even the rare 'it was unintentional but it works." The common consensus is by no means a die-hard or cast-iron measure of the success or failure of a scene but if a lot of people end up laughing or or mocking a scene, even a thematically appropriate one, it probably means there's something worth discussing about how the scene was executed. And that certainly doesn't mean the scene is without value or that it working for you means you're dumb or bad but is interesting in discussing the craftsmanship of a scene or the value of a design decision. And at the end of the day if you genuinely feel it is a good decision then that's awesome and there's nothing wrong with that. God knows we all have things like that. I'll go to bat for parts of Iron Man 3 despite a lot of people genuinely despising it and I don't feel my thoughts on it are wrong. It's writing everyone else off as stupid that doesn't help anything. It basically is a big reason a lot of conversation boils down into people getting angry instead of genuinely bouncing ideas off one another. (And obviously it goes both ways, people instantly deriding other readings sucks too.)
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2017 21:10 |
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biracial bear for uncut posted:What are the odds that "The One True Wonder Woman"/Diana's Black Sister/Nubia/Nu'Bia gets resurrected and brought into the movies if Black Panther does well in box offices? I thought there was a character in WW strongly implied if not stated to be her but I'm not sure.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2017 22:31 |