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sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Semper Fudge posted:

Frankly I'm disappointed that Raiders of the Lost Ark glossed over the whole Holocaust thing

I see what you did there, but that is set before WW2.

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sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
Maybe she just won't OVERTLY fight the Nazis. Or she''ll be completely out of touch with humanity when WWII happens for (comic book reasons, could be any goddamn thing, war with another dimension or aliens or take your pick.)

Superheroes naturally run into the problem where if you run them into the real world you have to ask why they allowed Hilter or whatever, and the answer is never good. Either you rewrite all history and end up with a mess, or you hand-wave it with something like "She was busy keeping the unspeakable evil from beyond our universe from destroying all of existence" or some poo poo.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Sir Kodiak posted:

I really enjoyed this, but, man, Zack Snyder really set the bar for massive CGI demigod rumbles. Like the last two Captain America movies, the hero taking apart faceless fascists is a blast, but the action goes to hell when it gets too big.

Winter Soldier was fun, but hoooly poo poo it crapped out every time a big CGI set piece happened. Big gray objects rendered with second rate effects. Maybe the worst use of CG in any Marvel movie come to think of it.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Steve Yun posted:

Captain America spent a lot of time properly setting the stage. Steve Rogers attempts and fails to get into the army, his buddy in the army shows up and talks about what it's like in the army, etc, Steve gets in, there's basic training, he serves in the USO which is raising funds for the war, etc. There's a lot of stuff related to war happening that revolves around the central fact that there's a war going on, so by the time Steve Rogers gets to his first battle, we've already accepted that this war is real.

It also separates Captain America from the real war, first by making him a propaganda performer, and then by having him not fight the German army at all, but a comic book offshoot, so he doesn't bump up against "real history" at all. It's all supposed to be secret to everyone anyway.

Also we're more used to silly pulp entertainment based on WW II because there has been so much of it, while the Great War is mostly treated more "seriously" in fiction even though it was smaller and had less indiscriminate civilian slaughter.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Phylodox posted:

It doesn't mean he's a poo poo, it just means he didn't have a good grasp on the character. Besides, it's a first draft. First drafts are always just throwing whatever at the wall and planning on refining it later.

Yeah but it doesn't exist in a vacuum, he's made a lot of gross poo poo and hidden behind unconvincing "But actually, I'm the feminist!" talk when he gets called on it.

Whedon projects that didn't involve fetishizing "strong female characters" being tortured, psychologically broken and/or degraded: :iiam:

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