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Capn Beeb posted:Pretty much, but now the HPA is already getting pushback from an unexpected source: lol unexpected?
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May 23, 2017 23:51
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hey here's a hottake to not poo poo up the CE thread with Obama was a great Republican President and a terrible Democrat one
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May 27, 2017 15:58
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imagine if as roofer said 'this looks dangerous' and started capping everyone with a nail gun. he just wants to get home safe, you know.
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Jun 17, 2017 02:21
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Well, one cop shooting another is something I can support.
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Jun 24, 2017 23:34
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We get what we pay for in most cases. Honkyville, USA's cops have less education than my goddamned barber.
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Jun 25, 2017 05:30
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Zeris posted:They don't pay me enough to make sense as often as you'd like Just glad you made it home safe
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Jun 25, 2017 15:13
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Statistically there is no justification for the paranoia law enforcement happily fostered with its US VS THEM WAR ON COPS SHEEPDOG HURRRRRRRRR bullshit.
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Jun 25, 2017 19:20
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Hey who's the worst ally we've ever had, Saudi Arabia or Israel
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Victor Vermis posted:ALL COPS ARE BADDDDDDDDDD well he wasnt wrong
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M_Gargantua posted:If ownership of semi automatic rifles is necessary for self defense against a destructive government then we should do what I (completely seriously) tell the CSPAM thread all the time, arm and train minority communities. Its funny you say this since armed minorities demonstrating is the last great boogeyman out there that might budge the GOP on gun control. Even then, I'm not entirely sure. A black dude gunned down a bunch of cops in Dallas and they just kinda shrugged.
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Capn Beeb posted:It wouldn't surprise me to see the Mulford Act on a national level brought back if there were enough of the Wrong People owning firearms. I dont think they could even do that. Open carry is huge for the true believers
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NUKES CURE NORKS posted:I don't buy this as an excuse to ignore pushing for reasonable gun legislation. It isn't an excuse, but you're more likely to address root causes of crime(not that I bet that'll happen either) than to get some sort of success running head first into the 2nd Amendment and a judiciary that is rather favorable towards it. It isn't a coincidence that the left got really big about blaming everything on guns when they sold out the poor and middle class amd helped turn income inequality up to 11. Proud Christian Mom fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Oct 6, 2017 |
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Oct 6, 2017 21:41
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:You're crazy if you think that any significant challenge to entrenched wealth and income inequalities wouldn't be fought tooth and nail by the oligarchy that benefits from them. The support for cultural nonsense like banning abortions or clinging to guns is a joke compared to the money and political influence that would be brought to bear against any policy has a chance to make the US a more egalitarian place. Its almost like I covered that in my post. Lets make this simple: The Republicans have more chance of passing an Amendment that requires all white born children to be issued an AR-15 than Democrats are to getting any meaningful gun control passed that won't be struck down 5-4(at best) by the SCOTUS.
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Oct 7, 2017 02:50
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Victor Vermis posted:Non-compliant people who act irrationally are always right. Yes, actually.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Yeah, and that's the part I disagree with. Substantial gun control is much closer to the realm of political possibility than any sort of significant redistributive economic reforms. In a 5 to 4 decission the Supreme Court overturned... AreWeDrunkYet posted:Cops kill about 1,000 people per year, while under 100 of them are killed. Hypothetically, if a change in ROE resulted in a few more dead cops but knocked 10% off the number of people they kill, would that be worth it? What about 20%? Because it certainly seems like right now they can make choices that will almost certainly result in someone being killed if there's even the slightest possibility their life might be in danger. And beyond all of the bodies, this undermines their ability to build a rapport with the people they are policing. Like 40% of all on-duty deaths are traffic related, too.
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the obvious solution is steps that look at reducing crime itself, but that involves addressing our massive systemic issues concerning race, income inequality and the justice system and lol there aren't 10 votes in the Senate for that.
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Oct 7, 2017 21:14
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*police seize weapons illegally and murder people during a disaster* "guys there's nothing wrong here"
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Oct 8, 2017 19:27
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since we cant go back we should go forward. mandatory firearms and training for minorities
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Oct 10, 2017 15:23
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Here's how voter ID works. "Hey you need one of these IDs to vote" 6 months later "We're closing a bunch of the offices you can get IDs at, specifically in these largely poor and minority areas" Like, that's actually what Alabama tried to do. Texas is already being a little more subtle. The two DPS offices we had for ~350K people were consolidated into one office that is equally inconvenient for everyone now. It's also somewhere public transportation doesn't go
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Oct 13, 2017 20:44
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North Carolina legislature had a study on "how do minorities vote" and then started restricting based on that
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:oh my god, the bigotry is coming from inside the thread Why do you hate our heroes
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Oct 14, 2017 00:49
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DoktorLoken posted:That's not dumb, the message is chilling and terrifying. It almost sounds like the NRA is calling for violence. Lol the NRA is whistling as hard as they can
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Oct 21, 2017 03:01
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recruitment isnt going to fix this unless you're going to shoot every cop into the sun, hire good people, take all the military toys away and say "We're never going to do that again"
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it really isnt a mystery as to why we're so lovely at COIN when we can't even get our own police forces to not be roving death squads
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Dec 12, 2017 16:51
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tfw you find out it isn't extremely normal at all to murder people you might feel vaguely threatened by 
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Dec 13, 2017 22:43
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They'll just shoot first then fire off a few rounds from a drop piece
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Jan 6, 2018 00:42
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Hell "reaching for the beltline" would be an upgrade over what we have now
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Jan 6, 2018 01:46
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If cops just want to get home safe every night maybe they should go do something else then hope with the rest of us that some murderous lunatic doesn't come across their path.
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Jan 8, 2018 04:29
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There is no meaningful gun control measure that could pass and not instantly die at SCOTUS so we're much better off trying to ameliorate the circumstances that lead to crime, like poverty. Unfortunately this means kicking Wall Street and the rich squarely in the nuts so that isn't happening either. As it stands now the Democrat platform of gun control is just sleight of hand for their minority voters to avoid addressing the fact that Democrat policies have turned their communities into crime riddled shitholes as much as Republican ones.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Yes, if we create a bunch of ridiculous contortions based on obsolete documents, it will indeed be impossible to pass meaningful gun control regulation. Or we could we could not try to force a modern legal system through the lens of ambiguous 250 year old statements, stop fetishizing the people who wrote them, and join the rest of the developed world by passing provably effective gun control measures. The literal foundation of this country is built upon it and its not going away anytime soon so again try doing something that might actually make a difference. AreWeDrunkYet posted:Wait, what? The Republicans are putting all of their energy into kicking the legs out from under the working poor while dismantling social support structures, but both parties are the same somehow. Is this the part where you tell us that helping poor people makes them dependent and they need to get pulling on their bootstraps instead? Bill Clinton had no problem doing the GOP's dirty work in "welfare reform" and an entire blue government under Obama did gently caress all to change any of it. Nevermind their brazen defense of the same people who've been loving the poor forever: the rich.
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Feb 1, 2018 02:18
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its an access issue and a cultural issue. i doubt we'll fix either.
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the inescapable conclusions are that we both have too many guns and are mentally incapable of responsibly owning and using guns
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Feb 18, 2018 17:35
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I think Kasich is still a pretty good VP pick in a world where the GOP didn't elect Donald J Trump
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Feb 18, 2018 22:23
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nm the mental illness issue is with people who think theyre going to be watering the tree of liberty any time soon
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Feb 18, 2018 22:57
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I haven't shot in years and living in Texas I have no desire to associate myself with gun owners. I think I last renewed my range membership around 2011-2012 and the crowd was sketchy as hell and racist as gently caress. I don't imagine it is any better.
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He's toxic as hell and no one wants to be on a losing team that racks up plea deals at best
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Mar 25, 2018 17:45
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Steezo posted:The second amendment has never been about sport, it's always been about a check on government monopoly on violence. That ship sailed long ago
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Steezo posted:No it hasn't. Do you want me to start quoting the Supreme Court as to why you're wrong? Ever read the remarks on Heller vs DC or McDonald vs Chicago? Because those two are recent. Or do you want me going further back, to when predominately black churches had armed security because of a KKK bombing and terror campaign? let me know when you're ready to start shooting police ok
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