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Chris James 2 posted:Backlash didn't sell out. Was on its way until matches were announced and ticket sales died almost immediately. It was a few hundred away from a sell out, it definitely didn't do the worst. There was one in the fall that drew house show like numbers.
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MassRafTer posted:It was a few hundred away from a sell out, it definitely didn't do the worst. There was one in the fall that drew house show like numbers. Haha it was Backlash 2016. Fitting.
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May 23, 2017 04:15
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Do we know what the Jinder/Orton house shows are doing? I expect those will do worse Most of the house shows they've done since they switched to Jinder were in Europe so it's really impossible to tell. Those tickets were sold months ago.
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May 23, 2017 05:00
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Dias posted:I still don't know why they split the women's and the tag division. Just put each one on different shows, focus the draft on singles and NXT callups, maybe two dudes decide to move to tag or singles competition, I'unno. Their ratings are down so far with men but steadyish with women that it'd be nuts to make the women's division brand exclusive.
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May 24, 2017 00:32
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Dias posted:Are they steady in both shows, and compared to what they were before the brand split? What about the tag divisions? From a booking perspective it feels weird to separate two very shallow divisions in half, I'm not sure if it's THE move from a business standpoint either, even if the ratings didn't budge all that much. A lot of WWE's decisions boil down to "we're not sure because every time they try to change no one commits past the adaptation stage anyway", as far as I care. Haven't seen Smackdown demos in awhile so I'm not sure. With the tag and women they should have just had one champion across too shows. The divisions are way too shallow but it'd be weird to have one be brand exclusive.
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May 24, 2017 00:47
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Lid posted:Is this worse than when The Shiek bought the NWA Championship? No one cared. At least compare it to one of the AWA title reigns that were bought when that title kind of meant something... this is dumber than either.
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May 24, 2017 04:27
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Wiccan Wasteland posted:If I remember correctly, he turned down the offer because they were going to saddle him with the Umaga gimmick. He turned it down because it was less money than he was making then.
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May 24, 2017 19:00
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Chris James 2 posted:lol the Hardys are losing to TNA If you'd read what you posted you'd see that isn't the case. They didn't lose the patent to TNA, they filed too vague of a claim.
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May 26, 2017 02:29
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DoctorGonzo posted:Cena-Miz feud was trash, Miz did all the work and i hope Nikki doesnt come back ever again. Cena had the best promo in the feud.
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May 26, 2017 18:09
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projecthalaxy posted:what are your thoughts on ddp and randy savage DDP also wasn't literally rehearsing matches over and over. Although with house show loops if WWE could get their booking together they basically could do that now.
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May 26, 2017 20:39
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Gonzo McFee posted:JBL held the Smackdown belt for almost a year and he was worse than Jinder. JBL was a much better promo and no worse in the ring.
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May 27, 2017 19:09
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oatgan posted:The India tour isn't until September and if he drops it before then what was the point The India tour is a few house shows, they didn't give him the belt to pop a couple house shows. Whether those sell out or not is besides the point of trying to get a bunch of Indians to sign up for the Network. You might as well have him be champion on that tour, but it doesn't really matter.
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May 27, 2017 19:28
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BrigadierSensible posted:A small side thing on the Jinder/India connection: From pretty much everywhere in the real world WWE doesn't have any significance in Indian culture. But in the WWE universe it's huge.
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May 28, 2017 07:28
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BrigadierSensible posted:So are you saying it's a similar thing to how Muscle & Fitness magazine is a well loved prestigious mainstream publication in the WWE Universe, yet ignored by literally everybody else in the world? I think there is a better chance you come across a Muscle and Fitness reader than WWE becomes an Indian cultural phenomenon.
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May 28, 2017 08:04
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Veryslightlymad posted:If the WWE really wants to expand into India, why not give a developmental contract to that legitimate women's wrestler who won like, their only medal (completely unexpectedly, I might add) the country had at the olympics? "Wow you are going to pay me jackshit to do something stupid that no one in my country likes and give up future Olympic ambitions? Sign me up!"
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May 28, 2017 23:50
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Veryslightlymad posted:She'll be 28 when the next olympics rolls around. Take the lovely payday. She's made more just from amateur wrestling than a wrestler could hope for in ten years of developmental. There's also World Championships next year.
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May 29, 2017 00:43
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Chris James 2 posted:They know less people watch when there's spoilers available There's really no evidence that taped leads to significantly lower ratings. But their schedule would make it really difficult to tape both shows and I am almost positive their agreements with USA dictate live.
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May 29, 2017 03:54
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The_Rob posted:They should just start bringing in paid extras as the audience. The Grindhouse Wrestling Epic Lucha Underground might sue.
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May 29, 2017 03:55
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CubsWoo posted:It's amazing looking back at times like the 80s where huge chunks of the business were on gear and coke and people bled nightly and did unsafe things with ungimmicked chairs and tables on top of working heavier schedules yet careers lasted as long or longer than they do now and the characters were so popular and iconic that even mid/upper midcard guys from the era still get nostalgia pops that outshine the current talent. The aftermath and the dead wrestlers before old age are tragic but it remains to be seen if the current talent will see similar death rates 10-20 years out. The death rate is definitely down. It's easy to overlook that drug testing does make it tougher for guys to abuse painkillers and that's what was killing a lot of guys super young. Remains to be seen if we see the steroid related deaths in the 40s and 50s though.
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May 29, 2017 04:28
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super macho dude posted:I wonder if the injury rate for WWE wrestlers is higher today than it was 20-30 years ago because of more emphasis on "work rate" and the insane schedule today's workers have. The schedule was much crazier 30 years ago and guys aren't carrying around as much steroid mass now (even if some guys are juicing) so it balances out. There's probably more guys taking time off for injuries now because you aren't as punished for taking time off as you used to be.
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St Evan Echoes posted:Was the amount of travel greater or less than it is now, because that's cited as a large part of what makes the schedule so bad Much worse. You'd be on the road for weeks straight with tour routes that weren't streamlined to make travel easier. Also WWE paid for a plane ticket to the tour but not one home so some lower card guys would have to stay on the road since it was cheaper than flying home for a couple days. Bad News Allen protested that and got the policy changed. WWF touring in the 80s was a lot like doing the European tour constantly. Crockett guys had about the same number of dates but they had to travel a bit less between cities. The AWA schedule was considerably easier than either even at their peak but by the mid 80s the AWA was in decline so it's not a good comparison.
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