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Covok posted:So, Comey's thing wasn't a nothing burger? Let's frame it this way: It should NOT be a nothing burger but we'll have to see what the actual impact is.
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Spaced God posted:Meanwhile Look, the man was just having a normal everyday conversation about tentacle porn with his wife and children. He just wanted to show his kids some tentacle porn so they knew it was real. Haha, just a laugh, guys.
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Archonex posted:What is Nakadashi? Google it. (Accidentally post it in your twitter.)
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Jun 8, 2017 18:25
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Tatsuta Age posted:Remember whose lawyer it is It is not impossible that Trump wrote the letter himself under a pseudonym.
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Jun 8, 2017 19:29
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Jun 8, 2017 20:21
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RiggenBlaque posted:Is there someone out there Trump could replace Sessions with who would somehow be even worse than Sessions? Somehow? Trump could resurrect the corpse of Hitler and it would probably be a step up.
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Jun 8, 2017 20:26
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Mr Interweb posted:So I know nothing about how leaks work, but I'm very curious of the "private citizen" defense. Isn't that still, you know, leaking government secrets? Would that lead to a lot of people being able to talk about what they did while they worked in the government after they quit? Are you referring to Comey? Because he didn't leak anything secret.
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Jun 9, 2017 04:11
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sexy tiger boobs posted:How long til a Comey/Trump parody porn comes out? Do you really want a parody involving Cummies and Rump?
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Jun 9, 2017 04:20
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Chilichimp posted:I think Comey just loving killed it for anyone who bothered watching that. It blowing up doesn't matter if the damage is done. The Comey thing was good but it also proved that literally nothing is going to stop the GOP except their own incompetence and we have to keep praying they are incompetent enough to fail (rather than incompetent enough to do massive soul-crushing damage) until 2018 (optimistic) or 2020. If this had been Obama there would be riots in the streets.
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Jun 9, 2017 15:45
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enraged_camel posted:They repealed most of Dodd-Frank yesterday. Yeah, the Dodd-Frank think was front and center in my mind when I posted that. People are hype over the Comey thing but the damage being done is astronomical and going "It's only 4 months and things are thing bad for Trump" can also be turned to "It's been 4 months and they've already done this much." The fact that it isn't worse is almost entirely down to sheer incompetence on the GOP's part, nothing anyone else has done. If they were more together then we'd already have the AHCA and a Muslim Ban. (Maybe a slightly less catastrophically awful AHCA but maybe not.) It's possible to be optimistic about 2018 but when the GOP is going full-tilt batnuts the "be patient, wait for things" viewpoint is hard to take. Patience isn't really a virtue when you're being patient while someone is shooting wildly at you and you're praying they just keep missing.
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Spaced God posted:Hm weird, the hole where Kurt Eichenwald once stood with a shovel and tentacle porn is getting even deeper and deeper two days after the whole ordeal. Let's check in "Hey guys, sorry for the mass email, just wanted you to know I was looking at tentacle porn ironically."
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Jun 10, 2017 18:29
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Skippy Granola posted:Democracy is like a team of oxen - you have to pull really hard to the left to shift course a little bit. I'm pretty sure the tens of thousands of people who are going to die in the next few years don't feel very comforted at the idea that "progressivism is making some gains" when those gains are "We're not losing AS BADLY as we might have" in a game where anything short of a win is 100% meaningless. The GOP are delighted. They're not taking this as a loss. They're taking it as proof they can do whatever and win.
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Jun 21, 2017 15:21
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Dietrich posted:You really think 8-12 points movement towards the left is 100% meaningless? Yes, I do. Call me when it actually leads to a win or to the GOP changing their plans an iota or when it seems remotely likely this will continue to last until 2018 instead of the Democratic voters finding a reason not to vote. The Democrats lost despite pushing tons of money into it. They got nothing out of it. Xombie posted:You are absolutely delusional if you thought they were going to abandon their agenda with an Ossof win. They don't care about proof or winning, they just care about ramming their agenda through. The only thing that can be accomplished is shaking enough of them that the process gets slowed enough to stall for longer. No, I don't actually believe the GOP would be doing all this if they thought there would be actual consequences, or at least not all of them. There are going to be die-hards no matter what but they don't need to lose that many.
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Jun 21, 2017 15:40
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Xombie posted:You are also delusional for thinking that the GOP wouldn't sacrifice themselves on the altar of their own bad ideas if they thought they were going to lose the next election anyway. They literally did it with the SCOTUS seat. You mean the SCOTUS seat they won'? Yes, what a great argument.
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Jun 21, 2017 15:46
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Paradoxish posted:I'm actually less worried about Medicaid than I am about the damage that Republicans are going to do to employer-sponsored healthcare plans. People really don't remember just how hosed the healthcare situation was in the US pre-ACA, and a rollback of pre-existing conditions protections and a return of lifetime limits is going to gently caress up a huge number of people. Add in healthcare costs that are rising all on their own and I feel like the AHCA has the potential to put us on course for a massive crisis. The optimists in this thread don't care about they. They genuinely don't care about the people who are going to die or suffer or anything of the sort. They just want to cling to "See, it isn't as bad a loss as it could be and even if they won it wouldn't have mattered anyway! The GOP is celebrating because it didn't matter and they didn't care!" Xombie posted:I mean the SCOTUS seat that they risked handing to Hillary Clinton with a Democratic Senate instead of approve Obama's moderate pick. Pretending to be dumb just to act pedantic doesn't help your argument, hope this helps. You mean the SCOTUS seat they won. Using an example of it paying off perfectly for them isn't actually meaningful. You're also pretending like blocking the Supreme Court seat had any negative impact on them. it emboldened their base and Democratic voters clearly didn't think it was important enough to get out and vote for.
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Jun 21, 2017 15:52
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boner confessor posted:this is a pretty aggressive stance to take for people who aren't tearing their hair out at the concept of a democrat closely losing in a heavy republican district. maybe we should post that suicide hotline number, christ No it isn't. The people who keep clinging to optimism and "it's going to be okay, it's just SADBRAINS" are actively damaging. They don't actually have an iota of empathy for the people who are looking at either losing every bit of money they have or dying in the upcoming years. Half the posts in this thread are people being super smug and happy that people are upset and unhappy about the fact they are going to probably die and calling those people 'sadbrains' and broken. I'm not particularly sure why I should read that as anything but sheer delight over the suffering of others because those others aren't going "This is good news... for the DEMOCRATIC PARTY" after the Democrats threw money hand over fist into a lost race. The argument wants to at once be "it was close, they could have won" and "Well they never really could have won in the first place, why would you expect that?"
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Jun 21, 2017 16:02
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Lightning Lord posted:I'm not sadbraining anyone... I just think going "All is lost, time to die" in response to GA-6 is what the MAGHats want. Demoralization is a kind of voter suppression. "This is not good news and in fact is an actual loss and represents a serious problem" isn't the same as "It's time to die, give up hope forever!" Constantly going "this isn't a real problem, we don't need to worry that much about it" is part of why the Democratic Party is in the shape it is in. They are the experts at making excuses for why a loss isn't really a loss. Xombie posted:I think that ImpAtom's post perfectly illustrates how their primary interest in politics is feeling like they're superior to other people. Yes, that's my primary interest in politics, you got me. Thanks for proving my point about how you're more interested in being snide and smug than anything else though. Flip Yr Wig posted:First of all, gently caress you. One's level of aggressive posturing toward the Democrats doesn't say poo poo about how much we care about peoples lives and livelihood. I'm loving livid about the AHCA and am actively rallying friends and family around it. Sorry, I didn't mean every single person, I apologize. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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hanales posted:You know what dude. We're on ObamaCare. My wife is battling cancer. We are being destroyed financially and healthwise by them loving with plans and not actually fixing things. Healthcare is my primary concern throughout this election and everything else. I'm actually effected unlike most of you sadbrained trolls, and yet somehow I can still look at things realistically and critically without talking like the world is ending every five seconds. So gently caress off with all of it and post real content, you and all the rest of the broke brained dimwits. Why are you assuming that I'm not actually impacted by this? Xombie posted:You are the very caricature of "ivory tower liberal" that has made the blue collar constituency abandon the Democratic party. Ah yes, clearly what really hurt the blue collar voters with Democrats is people talking about how things are genuinely really bad and there is a pressing need to fix things. That's a very logical analysis backed up by actual evidence there.
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Captain Invictus posted:lol gently caress you you moron, my family and I are DEFINITELY affected by all this but giving up does nothing but let the GOP get away with even worse poo poo. Stay mad. Get more people involved. Get more people informed. Don't be this hopeless sadbrain waste online. Please post where I said "give up." or "Stop trying" or "be sad." Would you like me to link to the multiple times I've said here or elsewhere "volunteer" or "protest" or 'get angry and treat this like a serious situation." I'm not saying anyone should give up and mean exactly the opposite. TGLT posted:Because you sure as poo poo have been. My mom just had a mastectomy. Without the federal marketplace she wouldn't have insurance, and without that insurance she wouldn't have even gone in for screening and caught her cancer as early as she did. poo poo she probably would have been like my uncle, putting off screening until it's potentially metastatic. I am on Obamacare. I also have an incredible serious stomach issue in the last year which came very close to leaving me non-functional and required surgery that even with Obamacare left me with incredibly heavy medical bills and which requires ongoing treatment and medication to leave me functional. I am genuinely and wholeheartedly terrified of what is going to happen in the next year not because it will impact me, personally, on a very significant level. This is in addition to other medical issues including multiple scoliosis which has gotten worse as I've gotten older and leaves me frequently in crippling pain. I don't particularly want to go into every goddamn problem my lovely failing body has in this thread but if you're looking for me to admit "I care about this because it will impact me, personally," then yes, it does, in addition to friends and family members. (That multiple scoliosis is something both my father and sister have too, in addition to countless other problems including the big C in my family.) ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Jun 21, 2017 |
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Majorian posted:This is 100% the opposite of the Democrats' strategy in 2016. I was being sarcastic, yes. . WampaLord posted:You yelled at people for being optimistic. I'm not sure of another word to use for the "this is actually a victory" attitude then. I genuinely don't think anyone should give up but I do wholeheartedly think it's important to acknowledge why defeats happen instead of trying to change them into victories. Even if the answer is 'they ran a bad candidate and tried to compensate for it with a ton of money" that's more useful than "Well nobody expected to win anyway, so it isn't a real loss." I also don't think the argument that it probably was too overhyped is without merit but if you're worried about people being demoralized, "the Democrats threw a ton of money at a failing candidate" probably does more to make people give up than a random post on a message board.
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:We live in the real world. You have to toughen up and live only for yourself at this point. You are an insane person.
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Jun 21, 2017 20:10
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Elotana posted:Democrats should get rid of Pelosi because voters hate her. As of February she had a net favorability of -25 according to NBC. "We should get rid of every single person the Republicans ratfuck people into disliking" is a great way to assure you have nobody left. It also proves that all the Republicans have to do is make a concentrated attack effort and the Democrats will do their job for them.
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Spiritus Nox posted:I don't know enough about what Pelosi brings as a congresswoman to judge her on that front, but I will say that the notion that the GOP would take longer than like a week to build Bernie or Booker or Warren or literally any democrat to get any national name recognition into a comparable boogeyman seems flatly laughable. The GOP has gotten really good at inventing imaginary boogeymen. They don't even need a week. Half of them they've already begun building into boogiemen. If you replaced Nancy Pelosi with Warren tomorrow it wouldn't even involve a second's hesitation to shift the hatred. (And that's assuming Warren would be the choice.) It might be harder if it was a straight boring white dude but "we should start using straight boring white dudes because they're too good at attacking minorities" is a win for the GOP.
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Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/877925724031770624 Jesus christ is that an image. 
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Who would have guessed the systemic racism doesn't suddenly stop at the blue line?
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Jun 27, 2017 18:58
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CmdrRiker posted:I would say less about "creative integrity" and more "creative freedom." It's reasonable to still see hints of contemporary issues surface in their programs, but feel less pressure to ensure they're written in somehow. These are the people who've literally made a career out of doing ripped-from-the-headlines beating-a-dead-horse jokes. They literally created a show called "That's My Bush" in case you forgot. The idea that now, suddenly, they don't want to be doing that for creative freedom is pretty unbelievable.
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CmdrRiker posted:No, I didn't forget. Their shows always branch into unforeseeable territory. They always do a lot of lovely and unbelievable things. Your entire argument is hard to take seriously. They've pretty never done unforeseen things though? They've done controversial things but the vast, vast, vast majority of their jokes are ripped from the headline stuff, sometimes thinly veiled through lovely metaphor, and that's only become more true as the show went on. They're people who made an ongoing joke out of Al Gore and climate change. It is, in fact, pretty much their entire gimmick with South Park. If South Park suddenly stops doing the animated equivalent of clickbait articles then maybe I'll believe it but somehow I suspect they'll still be doing that. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Jul 7, 2017 |
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:http://i.imgur.com/IXAnNPF.gifv this might be the only small act of kindness I've seen from him. That is probably the most genuinely charming thing I've ever seen from him.
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Petr posted:I just don't understand why Jr. released it. What was he thinking? He was trying to preempt the NYT story in the stupidest way possible.
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Jul 11, 2017 19:01
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Office Pig posted:I'd say play it safe and pester your senators regardless. This. Don't assume it's safe. Keep on pushing.
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Jul 13, 2017 18:30
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The Phlegmatist posted:I am continually amazed at the ability of the woke left to poo poo all over the poor. I''m similarly amazed at the ability of people like you to poo poo on everyone else in defense of the poor. (Where "poor" universally means "poor straight white men.") Said poor people are of course allowed to poo poo on everyone and anyone without getting an iota of criticism and if the people they poo poo on say anything remotely negative they get people like you joining in.
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Jul 16, 2017 22:32
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Casey Finnigan posted:So what will it finally take before the ~36-40% Trump base finally starts to turn on him? Could he really do anything to lose them? No, because they agree with what he's doing or think they do. Like if Trump pivoted hard enough to lose the die-hards he'd probably make some gains among other people even.
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I hope every loving piece of poo poo who tried to argue Trump would be a remotely positive force for LGBT rights goes and crawls into a hole and never shows their worthless faces in public again, especially if they were utterly hosed in the brain enough to vote for him. One of my best friends in the world was in the military and had actually just gotten support for transitioning and now I'm genuinely worried they're going to kill themselves. Jesus, I don't even know what to do or say for them.
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Jul 26, 2017 14:57
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namaste faggots posted:stop losing focus on poo poo trump is trying to distract from. gently caress you, this is important too.
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Jul 26, 2017 15:44
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namaste faggots posted:Until Trans people are actually being thrown out,assume this is just trump blowing smoke. I mean poo poo mattis doesn't even know about it. "Assume this is just blowing smoke" doesn't actually help anything when you're talking about people who are already suffering a lot. You can just as readily say that the health care poo poo is politicial theater and won't come to anything and you shouldn't worry about it until it happens. Both are things which are actively happening now and need immediate response, not a 'distraction.' Even if Trump is blowing smoke there needs to be a loving blowback to assure it remains smoke.
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Hey Donny, even considering how loving stupid an argument this is, it's also not just women being raped you worthless pile of dog dropping. I know it's an old tweet but gently caress.
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This has seriously been the longest 6 months of my life. The fact you literally can't wake up in the morning without a new kind of fresh hell is insane. I can't even imagine the conservatives are okay with it because it's a new case of 'what is loving up now even though we should be winning." I don't get how the country can sustain 4 years of this. It's going to drive people crazy.
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JVNO posted:I hate that, as an ex-infantry pacifist who despises the military industrial complex, I'm now defending the rights of trans people to enlist. It is 100% possible to be a pacifist and also to acknowledge discrimination in an organization or group you don't agree with. That isn't cognitive dissonance.
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Simplex posted:So white supremacists wish to use colored as a pejorative, while at the same time claim it as their own. And to do so they'll reference an old black comedian's joke. Well now my brain broke It's not complex. They want all positive traits or connotation to apply to them and all negative traits and connotation to apply to others. They will gladly adopt any positive traits used by others and try to make it about them without it confusing them because they know the difference between "I am colorful and wonderful" and "those colored boys" in their own brain. The 'white people are the real colorful ones' is a really really old thing though. You hear it a lot about hair color and how it's being 'erased' from certain shits.
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