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Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


I'm going to agree with the general point that the eastern third of the country is extremely different both in terms of population density and attitudes to the western half of the country. Whether you call the eastern third of the country the "east coast" or not is pretty irrelevant. You've all seen the population density map so I don't see why this is such a radical concept except that you want to argue pedantry about 'coast' and 'mountain'.

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Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


Rudoku posted:

And they're smart as gently caress, too. Screw dolphins, boars will be the next rulers. Oh and they're interspecies rapists.

:stare: What?

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


ReidRansom posted:

That wouldn't change the taxes they already owe from the previous year or quarterly filing though. Or it shouldn't unless they also issue a corrected refund to everyone that has already paid (ha!)

Rich people don't wait a year to pay taxes, they pay quarterly their estimated taxes for the current year.

https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/estimated-taxes

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


glowing-fish posted:

Seven bedrooms doesn't seem that extravagent. I mean, a standard house has three bedrooms, so this was about double normal size? And two million dollars in an urban real estate market doesn't seem to be too much.

I mean, I think their point was that he grew up in upper-middle class surburbia, not owning private islands in the Carribean. It seems like that might be the upbringing that someone whose parents were doctors, lawyers or successful professionals might have?

There weren't any *real* mountains nearby so were they really people at all?

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


Nazzadan posted:

I'll never turn 30, I'd rather DIE

http://isdeathcertain.com

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


axeil posted:

Nah, you got it because you said there were literally no mountains anywhere in the US except for the Rockies. It was really funny though! No hard feelings :)

That's really not the weirdest part of that derail. This was:

glowing-fish posted:

Arkansas? No. Arkansas is almost totally flat, which is why they had plantation agriculture, which is why the people there are weak. Like, isn't this a basic fact that everyone knows?

Geography is destiny: mountain make people stronk!

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


ReidRansom posted:

The only good republican is Arnold.

As a Californian: ehhhhhh.....

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007



This honestly smells like bullshit to me. You don't launch a coordinated international incident over a news article, fake or otherwise. That's just a cover story for whatever's really going on.

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


So what are the ramifications for brexit if the conservatives lose? Is it not too late to reverse course?

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


Reminder that California taxpayers pay billions more in federal taxes than the state receives back in federal spending. We're basically underwriting the Medicaid system for all the red states. If we're going to pass single payer here we need the feds on board, either by cutting our taxes so the state can in turn raise taxes to pay for it (lol fat chance), or by committing to helping fund it with federal dollars. 526 assumed CA's Medicaid dollars would be rolled into the single payer system, but hell the AHCA is proposing to *cut* medicaid. Nevermind that no waiver has been granted to use medicaid dollars for a single payer system.

The *last* thing we need is for a half baked single payer plan with unsecured funding to get passed, put the state back in the red, and give conservatives double ammo: single payer bankrupts states and lol CA is proof that liberals can't govern.

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007



quote:

Cantwell's attorney is Elmer Woodard, who appeared in court wearing an early-1800s-style red waistcoat with gold buttons, bowtie, white muttonchop whiskers, black velcro shoes, and a a 1910s-style straw boater hat.

Really want a picture of this.

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007



Arbeit macht frei

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


Holy poo poo, I actually caught up to the end of the thread. First time in weeks.

Anyways I thought you guys would like this Atlantic article casting the tax plan in generational terms:

Gen X and Millenials Will Pay for the GOP's Tax Plan - The Atlantic

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


Fearless posted:

I dunno. Stalling for a couple of days might allow Collins to stew a little longer in the realization that she was lied to wholesale and switch her vote.

People talk like they think Collins got burned. She didn't, she planned to vote for the tax bill all along and the 'I've gotten assurances that blah blah blah will be backed by the leadership' is just cover.

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


Warren positions herself for potential 2020 run

I worry that she is a weak campaigner and would play right into the same biases as Hillary.

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


Jaxyon posted:

In that she's a woman and America is super sexist?

She's a woman, she's white, and old. Ordinarily I'd be right there with you in the 'gently caress those bigots' sense, but defeating Trump in 2020 is super important. I agree with others, there are better options.

Also by weak campaigner I mean she's a very wooden speaker.

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


Trabisnikof posted:

Who are you so certain is a better option?

I'm not even sure she wants to run but I think Kamala Harris would be better in every way.

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


cis autodrag posted:

Almost certainly not on prisoners rights at the very least.

Better as a candidate, not better as in lefty purity tests.

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Jun 26, 2007


VitalSigns posted:

Normally I'd agree, but empathy and humanity appear to have skipped a generation or two so until millenials become eligible it's either old Silent Generation socialists, or Boomer and Gen X trash.

Also unlike the other choices, Bernie would definitely win, and the current president is an oldman fascist.

Uhhh, how many members of the Silent Generation do you know?

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