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sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Grittybeard posted:

Too close to reality to be funny is the problem.

They say 9/11 killed irony, but it was really Super Bowl XXXVI.

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King Hong Kong
Nov 6, 2009

For we'll fight with a vim
that is dead sure to win.

I'm assuming the social media manager is intrinsically linked to the fans regardless of how Leperflesh adjudicates that distinction without a difference and the fans are an abomination, so Pats fans.

fsif
Jul 18, 2003

Grittybeard posted:

Too close to reality to be funny is the problem.

Literally every single Pats fan I have ever met has said to me, “Hey, I was with them when they sucked!”

Not a legit excuse anymore even if you're like 60.

Shangri-Law School
Feb 19, 2013

The world would be a better place if every Pats fan were abducted by aliens. And ejected into space.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Some very good votes here: they're all worth 3 each. Good job!

Ches Neckbeard
Dec 3, 2005

You're all garbage, back up the truck BACK IT UP!
Pats Fans for being made up almost entirely of bandwagoning poo poo babies.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

both are good.

Magnetic North
Dec 15, 2008

Beware the Forest's Mushrooms
Pats Fans.

It is absolutely unreal the loving pretzels that Pats fans will bend themselves into in order to never dare besmirch the good name of the team. Every move is perfect. They never have a moral failing or make an error. Remember when they picked up Michael Floyd off of waivers when Arizona cut him after his DUI? When losing a million bucks would have been a fair punishment, the Pats threw him a life preserver as his still running car was sinking into an ocean of booze. And for what? Depth? And that one (admittedly sweet) block? Oh and I'm pretty sure he loving alligator arm'd to cause an interception in one of those games. Yes, the NFL is full of shitheads and felons, but the Pats pretend they are different with all that Patriot Way crap. So when they fail to live up to that, they should get poo poo over it. On the contrary, I heard a ton of townie toadies with their Wikipedia law degrees calling into sports radio that week defending the action. Half of the time, it wasn't even football reasons, talking about 'not convicted' and 'second chances' but if they passed on him and Pittsburgh took him, you know they'd change their tune.

Chieves
Sep 20, 2010

I assume the media manager is a pats fan, so by definition a vote for Pats Fans is a vote for both.

Zurreco
Dec 27, 2004

Cutty approves.

Magnetic North posted:

Yes, the NFL is full of shitheads and felons, but the Pats pretend they are different with all that Patriot Way crap.

This reminds me of when all those Pats fans traded in their Aaron Hernandez jerseys after he was arrested. A few fans said that they were doing so not because he was, you know, problematic and a murderer, but because he dared to besmirch the Patriot name and get arrested for multiple murders in the same year that Mrs. Kraft died of cancer.

The Patriot Way is the NFL version of St Louis' Best Fans in Baseball poo poo. Ugh.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
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Toilet Rascal
Pats fans are gonna run away with this, so I'll save an effortpost for them later, when they have a more worthy matchup.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
The Pats' social media person is doubtless following orders from Kraft and Belichick. Mark Twain describes this phenomenon better than I could:

quote:

FIFTY YEARS AGO, when I was a boy of fifteen and helping to inhabit a Missourian village on the banks of the Mississippi, I had a friend whose society was very dear to me because I was forbidden by my mother to partake of it. He was a gay and impudent and satirical and delightful young black man -a slave -who daily preached sermons from the top of his master's woodpile, with me for sole audience. He imitated the pulpit style of the several clergymen of the village, and did it well, and with fine passion and energy. To me he was a wonder. I believed he was the greatest orator in the United States and would some day be heard from. But it did not happen; in the distribution of rewards he was overlooked. It is the way, in this world.

He interrupted his preaching, now and then, to saw a stick of wood; but the sawing was a pretense -he did it with his mouth; exactly imitating the sound the bucksaw makes in shrieking its way through the wood. But it served its purpose; it kept his master from coming out to see how the work was getting along. I listened to the sermons from the open window of a lumber room at the back of the house. One of his texts was this:

"You tell me whar a man gits his corn pone, en I'll tell you what his 'pinions is."

I can never forget it. It was deeply impressed upon me. By my mother. Not upon my memory, but elsewhere. She had slipped in upon me while I was absorbed and not watching. The black philosopher's idea was that a man is not independent, and cannot afford views which might interfere with his bread and butter. If he would prosper, he must train with the majority; in matters of large moment, like politics and religion, he must think and feel with the bulk of his neighbors, or suffer damage in his social standing and in his business prosperities. He must restrict himself to corn-pone opinions -- at least on the surface. He must get his opinions from other people; he must reason out none for himself; he must have no first-hand views.

Pats fans have no such excuse. They aren't getting paid by the Pats to say terrible things and worship assholes like Tom Brady. They chose to do so.

A man chooses, a slave obeys. Sad to say, Pats fans qualify as men.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret
Pats Fans

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

No need to let this run any longer;

Patriots Fans Win, 32 to 6!

This next matchup was going to be very weird, so I shuffled a few of the seeds around - 19, 20, and 21st seeds all had one Second each, so they were functionally ties, and now we don't have a Bengal up against the Bengals.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Pacman Jones vs. Donald Trump!

Adam Bernard "Pacman" Jones (born September 30, 1983) is an American football cornerback and return specialist for the Cincinnati Bengals of the National Football League. He is a huge douchebag.




Zurreco posted:

Toss in Pacman Jones (who was recently arrested again for assault and spitting on a nurse while in custody) and you have the two biggest dicks in the NFL ON THE SAME TEAM. Their douchebaggery cost their team a guaranteed playoff win last year. They also downplayed some of the worst hits in the game in the name of winning (which, again, they didn't).

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/ct-adam-pacman-jones-arrest-bengals-20170103-story.html

quote:

Cincinnati Bengals cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones was jailed Tuesday on charges he head-butted police and spit on a nurse after being arrested for disorderly conduct in his latest brush with the law. Authorities said he was so combative that he had to be placed in a restraint chair.
...
Sheriff Jim Neil said Jones was "disorderly and combative" throughout his booking just after midnight Tuesday and had to be put in restraints.
...
Court records show Jones, who has a history of trouble with the law during his NFL career, is accused of pushing and poking a man in the eye, then struggling with Cincinnati police officers by head-butting, kicking and refusing to get into the police car. He then spit on a nurse's hand while being booked into the jail, police said.
The spitting, following his arrest on misdemeanor charges of assault, disorderly conduct and obstructing official business, resulted in a felony count of harassment with a bodily substance, authorities said.

A prosecutor said the altercation began when Jones started pounding on doors at the Millennium Hotel, near the Bengals' stadium in downtown Cincinnati. He then pushed and poked a security guard, authorities said.

Three weeks after that story ran, we were gifted with video of Jones being a huge dick to an officer, who he promised would soon lose his job:

http://www.tmz.com/2017/01/23/pacman-jones-arrest-suck-my-d-die-hotel/

Jones subsequently apologized:
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/01/24/adam-pacman-jones-apology-police-video/

Notably, Jones apologized after the video went public, which was three weeks after the incident. Not, you know, before, when he knew what he'd done but hadn't suffered bad publicity about it yet.

In May, Jones pled guilty to one charge of obstructing official business and was sentenced to time served - the two days he spent in jail after the arrest.
http://pro32.ap.org/article/cincinnati-bengals-pacman-jones-pleads-guilty-1-count

I am allowing this specific incident to qualify despite this punishment because

quote:

Municipal Court Judge Dwane Mallory dismissed misdemeanor counts of assault and disorderly conduct at the prosecutor's request after a plea agreement.
...
The judge cited Jones' apologies among a "multitude of factors" for his sentence.
...
The Hamilton County prosecutor earlier dismissed a felony count alleging Jones spit on a jail nurse.

Basically, he was only punished for obstructing police, on a plea bargain, and not for his actual assault on officers, nor for spitting on a nurse. And, the league has not yet punished him for this incident.

Even leaving it aside, please feel free to look at Pacman Jones' on-field behavior for inspiration with your votes.


Donald Trump
President of the United States of America Donald J Trump is a douchebag of such epic proportions that it will take historians centuries to fully document it in the libraries full of volumes on his life and presidency yet to be written. However, today we must focus solely on his activities surrounding the NFL during the past year.


Sataere posted:

I'm not sure if I am pushing the boundaries of this, but I nominate Donald Trump for saying that the only reason teams haven't signed Colin Kaepernick was because they were afraid of a tweet from him.

I believe his football credentials and his douchery this season have been amongst the most impactful​. Hell, I am only pulling one football related comment and there are many more. He has gone from torpedoing the USFL to laying waste to my listening enjoyment.

In closing, if he's good enough for the WWE Hall of Fame, he has more than earned the title of Football Douchebag of the Year.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18964343/donald-trump-takes-shot-colin-kaepernick-free-agent-status

quote:

Speaking at a rally Monday night in Louisville, Kentucky, Trump said he was reading an article about NFL owners' fears about signing Kaepernick and said, "They don't want to get a nasty tweet from Donald Trump. Do you believe that?"

Trump added that he wanted to share this with "the people of Kentucky because they like it when people actually stand for the American flag."
...
"I think it's personally not a good thing. I think it's a terrible thing," Trump said at the time. "And, you know, maybe he should find a country that works better for him. Let him try. It won't happen."

Trump later blamed the NFL's falling ratings on Kaepernick's protest.

Trump was referring to Mike Freeman's report that quoted an "AFC general manager" as saying

quote:

"First, some teams genuinely believe that he can't play. They think he's shot. I'd put that number around 20 percent.

"Second, some teams fear the backlash from fans after getting him. They think there might be protests or [President Donald] Trump will tweet about the team. I'd say that number is around 10 percent. Then there's another 10 percent that has a mix of those feelings.

"Third, the rest genuinely hate him and can't stand what he did [kneeling for the national anthem]. They want nothing to do with him. They won't move on. They think showing no interest is a form of punishment. I think some teams also want to use Kaepernick as a cautionary tale to stop other players in the future from doing what he did."

This is just one GM's assessment, but it goes to the heart of the matter: actual NFL GMs believe that Trump could pile on to any team that hires Kaepernick. And as much as we may hold Trump in contempt around here, he's the president of the country and still has a strong base of support that NFL teams don't want to piss off. It makes a strong case that the president of the united states of america has actively helped to destroy the career of a player whose only crime is invoking his constitutionally-protected right to free speech. And Trump himself essentially confirmed that fact after it was reported, reassuring GMs across the league that they'd be punished by the President if they hired Kaep.

Notably, Donald Trump has never publicly expressed an opinion as to whether or not Pacman Jones should still be on an NFL team.

Vote!

Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Jun 13, 2017

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Donald Trump

Shangri-Law School
Feb 19, 2013

Donald Trump is the worst living American bar Tom Brady. You could live a just and moral life simply by doing the opposite of what Donald Trump would do every time you need to make a decision. He is a douche.

Zurreco
Dec 27, 2004

Cutty approves.
Pacman Jones for everything I said above, everything he has done in the past, and whatever the gently caress he is probably doing right now.

He is a walking advertisement that you can be a complete piece of poo poo on and off the field and still keep your job of you can tackle Antonio Brown twice a season. I hate to invoke the "think of the children" argument but young football fans in Ohio have it bad enough without this turd staying in the headlines all year long.

Also everyone else in the league hates him for his attitude and dirty play and this obstinate gently caress thinks they're just haters.

Trump is a douche but he has almost nothing to do with football and should be folded into the Pats Fans entry.

fsif
Jul 18, 2003

Donald Trump is a weird person to even be in this competition but the fact I might go the rest of my life without a day where I don't think about him is so haunting that I feel the need to say "gently caress Donald Trump" whenever possible.

Incoherence
May 22, 2004

POYO AND TEAR
Donald Trump is a megadouche but his football douche credentials are marginal.

Pacman Jones is a Football Douche.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

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Pacman Jones, because I'll never vote for Trump, even in a douche-off.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
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Toilet Rascal
Pacman is a lovely, dirty player, but Donald Trump is actively trying to ruin a player's career because he had the audacity to speak out against police brutality.

Also, every other loving thing he did not related to football.

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo
Donald Trump for being a human colostomy bag and torpedoing the USFL

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it
pacman jones because Donald Trump doesn't deserve to win another Goddamn thing. Ever again. No bullshit if he were to win this tourney and someone tweeted it at him, he would say something because he is THAT vain. And he would wear it as a badge of honor.



Guys, don't give him what he wants.

cheesetriangles
Jan 5, 2011





Flikken posted:

pacman jones because Donald Trump doesn't deserve to win another Goddamn thing. Ever again. No bullshit if he were to win this tourney and someone tweeted it at him, he would say something because he is THAT vain. And he would wear it as a badge of honor.



Guys, don't give him what he wants.

This sways me. Pacman

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

pacman jones because the bengals are going to represent both sides of the finals this year

korrandark
Jan 5, 2009
Donald Trump, because Bengals aren't allowed past the first round of anything. :smith:

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Lol it's tied

Raku
Nov 7, 2012

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.

Roll Tide
Pacman because it's time to LOCK HIM UP

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Raku posted:

Pacman because it's time to LOCK HIM UP

I'm calling this a 1-point vote. It's borderline arguable that you added something, but not really.

Eli Wiggum posted:

Donald Trump for being a human colostomy bag and torpedoing the USFL

And I'm calling this a one point vote, which is also borderline since you gave a reason, but his torpedoing the USFL happened in ancient times and is way outside the one-year window.

But

Incoherence posted:

Donald Trump is a megadouche but his football douche credentials are marginal.

Pacman Jones is a Football Douche.

This qualifies as a three-point vote, as it contains reasoning.

If anyone feels I'm judging unfairly, feel free to speak up.

aperion
May 15, 2007

i want to believe
Grimey Drawer
Pacman "Adam" Jones

I know he's a dirty player and all, and I have no love for the Bengals for keeping him, Vontaze Burfict, and now Joe Mixon. But really my reasoning comes down to why I won't vote for Donald "Mr President" Trump: Trump's douchiness in the realm of football is a one-liner in a sea of one-liners to come from him about literally anything he cares to vomit diarrhea on, which is anything and everything. I doubt he even remembers what he said anymore and if asked about it again, he'd probably ask who the hell Kaepernick is. He's long since moved on from it, while the league still has the Bengals.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


I hereby retract my vote for Trump, and switch it to Pacman (if I can do so).

However, I nominate Donald Trump for the Douche HoF for the sole act of killing the USFL because he couldn't get an NFL franchise.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

iospace posted:

I hereby retract my vote for Trump, and switch it to Pacman (if I can do so).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcTm93YztSg&t=1s

quote:

However, I nominate Donald Trump for the Douche HoF for the sole act of killing the USFL because he couldn't get an NFL franchise.

Good call.

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

Incoherence posted:

Donald Trump is a megadouche but his football douche credentials are marginal.

Pacman Jones is a Football Douche.

iospace covered it but his football douche credentials are pretty solid, they just happened 30ish years ago. So I guess they shouldn't count for this vote. He's so proud of winning that lawsuit though (with triple damages because of anti-trust laws the USFL was awarded 3 whole dollars).

So I guess Pac Man. I don't think he's as widely hated as Zurreco seems to think but whatever, he gets my vote this round.

Zurreco
Dec 27, 2004

Cutty approves.

Grittybeard posted:

I don't think he's as widely hated as Zurreco seems to think but whatever, he gets my vote this round.

Read up little one.

Sataere
Jul 20, 2005


Step 1: Start fight
Step 2: Attack straw man
Step 3: REPEAT

Do not engage with me



Donald Trump should be winning this handily and it isn't even close. It's not just about what he has done for the football landscape, but the douchy way he has done it.


While at the Army-Navy game, he said "I don't know if it's necessarily the best football." He's just a douche.

EDIT: The Kaep statement and reading the Bellichek letter are very relevant to this year, but I fully acknowledge that he's a much stronger HoF candidate.

Sataere fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Jun 14, 2017

King Hong Kong
Nov 6, 2009

For we'll fight with a vim
that is dead sure to win.

Pacman because we might as well be voting for warcrimes for saying the same things Trump did while having an equally distant relationship to the game today.

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

I know who the man is and his past (which largely isn't eligible for this contest), but thanks for the link that includes articles about Manny Pacquiao and the actual pac man game and says nothing about how the league as a whole hates him.

hepcat
Jan 21, 2004
"Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos..."
Pacman Jones. Spitting on a nurse, by itself, is much worse than anything Trump did related to the NFL in the past year.

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Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Full disclosure, I once spit on a nurse.

It wasn't intentional, she'd just stuck a tube down my throat and into my stomach, but she was not pleased about it, she just sort of froze and gave me a look like "holy poo poo are you serious dude?"

Her name was Gertrude. I'm still so sorry, Gertrude. :(

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