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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
i can't be bothered updating this for a different poster

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Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



Irony Be My Shield posted:

Under 18-24 year olds are polling like 70% Labour, and the next age group is also pretty heavily Labour. This thread is about what you'd expect, the only age group with a lot of Tories is 65+ and they don't post on the internet that much.

Introduce internet only voting.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Reminder:


Please remember to quote one of my posts if you want to enter because I'm only skimming the thread at the moment, if you've entered and I've not replied to you let me know.

I suggest everyone itt vote for the 'buy feedmegin a new car' option someone in the last thread chose :sun:

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

learnincurve posted:

We need an age cap. If your average life expectancy means you probably won't last a full term, then you don't get a vote. Sensible older people will see the logic, it will be the OLD, LOUD, AND FRIGHTENED who kick off about it and they are exactly the people we want to exclude. Boomer generation are now firmly in this category.

Will cut out all of the bullshit where governments build policy around people who are nearly dead because they know they are the biggest voting block, and force them to concentrate on the youth and long term policy.

My nan is 90 today , she's not old, venerable and wise. she can't figure out how her boiler works and organised a boycott of a local pub because they put the Wednesday pensioners special up by £1 without giving anyone warning. According to my nan It would have been ok if they had told everyone a few weeks before, but because they only put it on the board on the Monday their business had to fail (which it did) as a punishment or something(????). These people can vote.

Happy birthday to this guys nan

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

TheRat posted:

http://www.dagbladet.no/ - One of the largest papers in Norway. You may not understand what it says but I'm sure you can catch the main message :allears:

Something about passport chaos? ;p (I do speak a teeny tiny bit of norsk having lived there for a little bit; pro tip though, news website headlines change over time ;)

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

feedmegin posted:

I suggest everyone itt vote for the 'buy feedmegin a new car' option someone in the last thread chose :sun:

You've got a week to get that as a registered charity. Also the current prize pool would buy you two new brake pads, so I wouldn't be picking out what type of animals you want to die for the upholstery in your new Bentley just yet.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


My Tory friend is now telling me he wants to vote for "anyone but May", I figure he's a reasonable weathervane for the business Tory sort so I'm dangerously close to hope.

I'm going to go take an ice bath while repeating "FPTP, FPTP" over and over.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

Namtab posted:

Happy birthday to this guys nan

Thanks, I have an hour of freedom before I have to go to a racist old ladies birthday party. I will have to politely sit through much twittering about how May is wonderful and that she will save us from "the browns" whilst wondering at what point she will work out that I'm mixed race. It's been 37 years and the woman still hasn't clocked it, I'm convinced she thinks I just tan well.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

nopantsjack posted:

My Tory friend is now telling me he wants to vote for "anyone but May", I figure he's a reasonable weathervane for the business Tory sort so I'm dangerously close to hope.

I'm going to go take an ice bath while repeating "FPTP, FPTP" over and over.

As far as I can tell just from overheard gossip everybody who's actually invested in the tory party in any way absolutely despises her.
Unless she somehow conjures up a massive majority against all predictions (not impossible given the shitness of our polling companies) she's probably going to be out in under a year. Just squeaking through with a narrow win won't save her at this point.

deletebeepbeepbeep
Nov 12, 2008

goddamnedtwisto posted:

https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/870066949417570305

That would be one of the more amazing outcomes of this shitshow, no matter how unlikely.

A lot of people locally think Hastings and also Kemptown will go to Labour but the main difficulty with that is the UKIP vote going straight to the Tories which blows any hope of that out of the water.

It blows my mind that anyone in Hastings would vote Tory, turkeys voting for Christmas etc.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

My UKIP candidate apparently is a climate change sceptic as well as a low tax Monarchist libertarian. What a worthless human being.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Isn't Hastings rich and posh?

Lovechop
Feb 1, 2005

cheers mate

namesake posted:

Monarchist libertarian

the gently caress is that

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Lovechop posted:

the gently caress is that

As said in the last thread: a modern day supporter of feudalism.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

with endorsements like these, who needs enemies?
https://www.ft.com/content/67949e4a-45e2-11e7-8d27-59b4dd6296b8

quote:

Far from being strong and stable, Mrs May has looked curiously brittle. She has failed to offer a credible picture of what life outside the EU’s single market and customs union will look like, let alone the economic trade-offs that will inevitably form part of the Brexit end-game. The opposition Labour party under Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership has been equally vague. Both sides have engaged in a conspiracy of silence.

This is deeply unsatisfactory. Britain’s departure from the EU is happening at a time of great geopolitical uncertainty. The western alliance is eroding due to US President Donald Trump’s erratic foreign policy, combined with a legacy of European fecklessness. Paradoxically, Brexit and Mr Trump may be propelling greater unity within the EU, especially after Emmanuel Macron’s win in the French presidential election. A more solid European front built on a renewed Franco-German alliance is not necessarily good news for the UK.

In these circumstances, it is a sad indictment on the state of Britain that neither of the main party leaders is particularly impressive. The Financial Times has no fixed party allegiances. This publication stands for a liberal agenda: a small state, free trade, free markets and social justice. Neither Mrs May nor Mr Corbyn stands four-square behind these principles. Neither has offered tax and spending plans that are credible, given the short-term risks facing the economy.

Mrs May recognises the inequalities that need addressing in Britain and the divisions that need healing. But the Conservative manifesto is an amalgam of the sublime (“the great meritocracy”) and the ill-judged or badly presented (plans for social care reform). Proposed interventions on energy and telecommunications markets and worker representatives on boards mirror the market meddling of Ed Miliband, the former Labour leader. The manifesto is overloaded with legislative commitments that cannot possibly be fulfilled in the next parliament, given the preponderance of Brexit.

Most concerning is the renewed Tory commitment to reduce net migration to the “tens of thousands”. If fulfilled, this would damage the UK’s flexible labour market and harm economic growth. It is hard to reconcile the pledge with Mrs May’s promise of an outward-facing “Global Britain”. The pitch was intended to appeal to stray UK Independence party voters but it is best described as “open for business, closed for foreigners”.

Yet the alternative to Mrs May is worse. Mr Corbyn is [blah blah blah]

deletebeepbeepbeep
Nov 12, 2008

sassassin posted:

Isn't Hastings rich and posh?

Hastings town itself is an absolute poo poo hole and pretty deprived, it has nice countryside around it though which I assume is where the tory vote is.

Lovechop
Feb 1, 2005

cheers mate

namesake posted:

As said in the last thread: a modern day supporter of feudalism.

jesus. sounds like a hell of a guy.

i missed most of last night's debate, is there a good summary up anywhere? i did see a quick clip of caroline lucas destroying amber rudd, which i enjoyed.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe

sassassin posted:

Isn't Hastings rich and posh?

Hastings is genuinely the most grim and deprived town centre I've ever visited in Britain.

I'm sure there's rich bits around there though.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

El Grillo posted:

Dunno whether this was posted yesterday but the Lib Dems latest election broadcast is pretty weird: https://www.facebook.com/libdems/videos/vb.5883973269/10155403423853270/
I think their video guy is on speed

Man, that's loving weird. That's legitimately one of the first times I've seen someone call for 'Tolerance' in like a decade. Definitely a homophobe.

Flatscan
Mar 27, 2001

Outlaw Journalist

peanut- posted:

Hastings is genuinely the most grim and deprived town centre I've ever visited in Britain.

I'm sure there's rich bits around there though.

Last time I was there it was like something out of 28 Days Later.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

So "I'm very clear" is the new "strong and stable"? I think the only reason Cameron appeared to be such an effective Conservative leader is that his "long term economic plan" Markov chain seed was four words while the rest of them can only manage three.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

TACD posted:

So "I'm very clear" is the new "strong and stable"? I think the only reason Cameron appeared to be such an effective Conservative leader is that his "long term economic plan" Markov chain seed was four words while the rest of them can only manage three.

The old, if anything. Tony Blair and Hogfucker both said "Let me be clear" so many times during their tenures I have a knee-jerk response to assume that whatever comes next is trite or bollocks. Usually both.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


peanut- posted:

Hastings is genuinely the most grim and deprived town centre I've ever visited in Britain.

I'm sure there's rich bits around there though.

Has anyone ever been to both Hastings & Cumbernauld town centres? What wins as far as the best representation of 21st century Britain (horribly depressing)?

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

forkboy84 posted:

Has anyone ever been to both Hastings & Cumbernauld town centres? What wins as far as the best representation of 21st century Britain (horribly depressing)?

I've not been to Hastings, but it has to be an actual smoking crater to be worse than Cumbernauld.

Igiari
Sep 14, 2007
I don't think we should get too carried away by YouGov. It's a big outlier and the other polls have Labour behind by ten (and even YouGov still has them behind).

Does anyone know how many people watched last night?

Fill Baptismal
Dec 15, 2008
Do people care who the economist endorses?
:catdrugs:RADICAL CENTER:catdrugs:

Seemed pretty reasonable logic to me though, what's this thread think? I don't know that party very well.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


themrguy posted:

Do people care who the economist endorses?
:catdrugs:RADICAL CENTER:catdrugs:

Seemed pretty reasonable logic to me though, what's this thread think? I don't know that party very well.

God, The Economist is utterly worthless.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

feedmegin posted:

I suggest everyone itt vote for the 'buy feedmegin a new car' option someone in the last thread chose :sun:

You're welcome.

learnincurve posted:

Thanks, I have an hour of freedom before I have to go to a racist old ladies birthday party. I will have to politely sit through much twittering about how May is wonderful and that she will save us from "the browns" whilst wondering at what point she will work out that I'm mixed race. It's been 37 years and the woman still hasn't clocked it, I'm convinced she thinks I just tan well.

More people should feel comfortable to tell their racist relatives to stuff it. Maybe wait until after the election though and convince her to vote Labour.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

themrguy posted:

Do people care who the economist endorses?
:catdrugs:RADICAL CENTER:catdrugs:

Seemed pretty reasonable logic to me though, what's this thread think? I don't know that party very well.

Lol @ the economist, magazine of lofty intellectual pretensions, using the term 'loony left' unironically

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

Paperhouse posted:

His opening speech was laughable but he's had some decent rebuttals so far

I don't get why some of the other left parties are attacking Corbyn and Labour on anything :confused: that's not the target man

He got some stick from the SNP over his 3 line whip for Article 50. The SNP is very much pro remain and it's worth it to keep that particular flag flying.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
I've only ever been to the Hastings area to see a girl that lived in a converted gatehouse for some country manor so my impression of it is as a hotbed for people who are really rich but never spend any money.

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






I haven't read that article, but I'm going to assume that the radical centre is described as a logical, pragmatic form of governance that's above the petty ideological concerns of the left and the right because politics is just a series of problems solved by people getting together in a room and talking things out and making decisions?

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Oberleutnant posted:

Just heard a big time tory say this to his companion.

I think that's an insult to Richard the III

Wazzerphuk
Feb 9, 2001

Hating Chelsea before it was cool
Winner of the PWM POTM for September
Winner of the PWM POTM for January
Co-Winner of the PWM POTM for March

peanut- posted:

Hastings is genuinely the most grim and deprived town centre I've ever visited in Britain.

I'm sure there's rich bits around there though.

Hastings-chat, finally something I'm qualified to talk about.

The town centre itself is an absolute hellhole, but ten minutes walk in any direction is generally lovely. And while the old town (musicians, retired fishermen and drunk divorcees/widows, it's fun) is increasingly gentrified, it's all still predominantly Labour. It's Rye and the surrounding countryside that's Tory, and as much as my mum doesn't like her, Amber Rudd has apparently been a visible and proactive local MP, so I'd be amazed if there was enough of a shift to swing it back to Labour.

It was 55% leave, which was probably at least in part down to :siren:fishing quotas:siren:, but everyone I've spoken to about it has looked incredibly sheepish if they've admitted voting that way. I get the impression that they hoped it would come across as a protest vote, rather than actually wanting the result.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Angepain posted:

Lol @ the economist, magazine of lofty intellectual pretensions, using the term 'loony left' unironically

Thats precisely the kind of people who invented the term in the first place.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Why are we back to the pigs tag? Is daveypie even running this time?

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
With the British election becoming a horse race I've taken an inventory and realized I'll be happy with any outcome.

A Labour win would be good for Britain and the world, with the caveat that Corbyn has a few troubling and disgusting similarities to our own piss-soaked commander-in-chief, notably moral cowardice when it comes to nuclear deterrence, and a quisling/judas streak when it comes to NATO and our enemies. He might well counteract any harm he did there by making the brexit considerably 'softer' though. A Europe more integrated is a Europe better able to resist and counter the enemies of democracy. Also my British friend, an arch Tory, would have to eat poo poo pretty much forever.

A Tory win would mean all the political entertainment a full English red white and blue no-deal brexit would bring, and deliver to the British the full serving of woe they deserve for their referendum. It might also help discredit and put back into its hole the basket of deplorables that far-leftism carries around on its back.

A hung parliament / inconclusive election would probably be the most entertaining and interesting outcome of all.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

Igiari posted:

Does anyone know how many people watched last night?

19:30: BBC Election Debate - 3.51m (17.8%)

quote:

Peak min of #BBCDebate was 20.59 with 4.7m/23.4%. 11% of the UK (6.5m) watched at least 3 min of it.
Good perf for 25-34, men & AB.
overnights.tv

staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe

Gorn Myson posted:

I haven't read that article, but I'm going to assume that the radical centre is described as a logical, pragmatic form of governance that's above the petty ideological concerns of the left and the right because politics is just a series of problems solved by people getting together in a room and talking things out and making decisions?

The radical bit means they do all that talking in a room stuff, but while doing tricks and jumps with rollerblades.

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Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

hakimashou posted:

With the British election becoming a horse race I've taken an inventory and realized I'll be happy with any outcome.

A Labour win would be good for Britain and the world, with the caveat that Corbyn has a few troubling and disgusting similarities to our own piss-soaked commander-in-chief, notably moral cowardice when it comes to nuclear deterrence, and a quisling/judas streak when it comes to NATO and our enemies. He might well counteract any harm he did there by making the brexit considerably 'softer' though. A Europe more integrated is a Europe better able to resist and counter the enemies of democracy. Also my British friend, an arch Tory, would have to eat poo poo pretty much forever.

A Tory win would mean all the political entertainment a full English red white and blue no-deal brexit would bring, and deliver to the British the full serving of woe they deserve for their referendum. It might also help discredit and put back into its hole the basket of deplorables that far-leftism carries around on its back.

A hung parliament / inconclusive election would probably be the most entertaining and interesting outcome of all.

i'm hoping for a libdem-snp coalition myself

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