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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



Pochoclo posted:

I see Hammond and Davidson as the only Tory candidates that might have some success in gaining leadership. Tories are incredibly incompetent on average, so it's not like it's a high bar

Damien Green might be able to do some damage as well.

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Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



Tigey posted:

As a recent convert, and someone who has been critical of his attempts to dance around the nuclear issue in the past, I'm relatively relaxed about this.

Agreed. No-one has got anywhere in UK politics in the last two years by attacking Corbyn.

'We need better housing and a well funded fire service, not nuclear bombs.' There, line sorted.

I also agree he doesn't want to open splits in the party again, but 'when I can' is non committal enough to dodge that.

Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jun 25, 2017

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



jabby posted:

He had an approval rating of -42 a few months ago.

I'm all for optimism but the constant attacks on him made him one of the most unpopular politicians in the country. Sure he managed to turn it around during the campaign but we aren't in a campaign any more.

Yeah fair enough, but I do think attacking him carries a lot of risk. The Tories credibility is shot while detractors within the party are wary of his supporters, are benefiting from his popularity, have far fewer allies and no objective in sight. He has good will to burn. The worry is that this is his zenith, I wouldn't bet on it though, Brexit is coming. Maybe a better line would have been no one has got rich betting against him in the last two years.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



We have been over this a few times in this thread. You need nuclear, not because renewables are bad, but because the battery tech and network infrastructure isn't there to use them like baseload yet. Nuclear is required to get us over the hump and off carbon heavy fuel while the R&D and network investment takes place. It is also a reasonably good technology in its own right, and a totally valid thing to include in a low carbon energy mix - reliable, always on, safe, low carbon - what's not to like? The answer is actually uranium mining, but solar panels aren't made of water either.

Guavanaut posted:

You can make them out of saplings and water if you have a well managed system.

Everyone goes for the garbage unmanaged systems though.

Seriously? Please PM about this, genuinely tres interested.

Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Jun 30, 2017

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