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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Jeherrin posted:Farron: “History will be kind to Nick” You don't speak ill of the dead
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Andrast posted:Why the gently caress would the EU care about Corbyn? They won't want a change in government in the middle of the brexit talks
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Jun 9, 2017 12:15
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jBrereton posted:It's not really the middle when they haven't started yet. He was talking about a hypothetical future where the coalition breaks down during the talks and why the eu might have a vested interest in propping them up
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Jun 9, 2017 12:18
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I get the feeling that Ian Hislop was not too thrilled by the result
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Jun 10, 2017 05:13
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Irony Be My Shield posted:- that GBS poster who came in to land some sick owns and was quickly forced to argue that, for the first time ever, the exit poll was significantly wrong I remember that! Or maybe I'm just thinking of the bbc election coverage
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Jun 10, 2017 05:35
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namesake posted:The thing is that you can't assume that the line of party support will move as people age, there will be at least some who change their mind as they get older. Don't take.that for granted basically. This isn't the first generation to have a partisan lean. The line of party support moves as people age
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Jun 10, 2017 08:33
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ronya posted:pledging a subordinate coalition partner to have an unwhipped vote on something is surely the most transparent non-promise ever? Does the DUP even get to say "well we tried" for such a thing? I don't see the problem. The DUP look terrible for failing to get it passed, the Tories look terrible for allowing it in the first place and Labour get themselves a few new voters. Everybody wins
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Jun 10, 2017 09:19
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Yeah, but you can't rule out flaws in the algorithms themselves. Anything other than a true one-time-pad has a nonzero risk of having a flaw that either cuts the key search space right down or just gives you a straight-up shortcut to plaintext. One of my favourite posts in the old bitcoin threads was a reply someone made to a guy doing the whole "Trillions and trillions of years" bullshit: "The algorithm's called SHA2 for a reason"
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Jun 10, 2017 10:33
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feedmegin posted:It's not even the 'left-wing press'. It's us. Common or garden Internet communists. Exactly. As much as I hate breathless technological evangelism, social media really has massively changed how the young view and interact with the world. There's a reason Corbyn happened now and not ten years ago. Without social media buzz Corbyn would be that obscure labour backbencher who came last in the 2015 leadership contest
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Jun 10, 2017 10:47
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c0burn posted:Who do we all think Hislop votes for? I've heard him described as a small-c conservative but not from the horses mouth
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Jun 10, 2017 10:50
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How are we supposed to know where the bottom rung is until we figure out which one Corbyn is standing on?
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Jun 10, 2017 10:58
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RabidWeasel posted:I mean people are saying poo poo like the tabloids being even more insanely screeching than usual and some outrageously misleading reporting from the BBC obviously had no impact on the vote, because clearly everyone was just voting against the Tories and not for the nice jam man so the fact that he was being smeared so hard was meaningless. If you actually believe this then clearly ~other candidate~ would have done better. The counterpoint to this is yes, if this was just a protest vote against the tories then other candidates would have done better- specifically the candidates for the SNP, Lib Dems, and UKIP
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Jun 10, 2017 11:00
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RabidWeasel posted:I was a lib dem voting (though mostly well meaning) oval office when I went to uni, came out as a socialist, and turned full communism now during the subsequent years. My parents were both dyed in the wool tories though my mum votes for the Green party now (she likes Corbyn but hates the PLP for being careerists and still thinks that the trade unions are to blame for everything bad that's happened since 1970) Now tally up the people you know who didn't significantly change their political opinions after university. We're talking about populations, not individuals
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Jun 10, 2017 11:03
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jBrereton posted:The Lib Dems did pretty well in Scotland. In England they aren't a protest vote. Neither are Labour. A protest vote going to Labour is weird. A protest vote going exclusively to labour is not a protest vote
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Jun 10, 2017 11:09
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You also have extremely high turnout and a flow of votes from minor parties to major ones. This was not an election dominated by protest voting (OK there does seem like there may have been a bit of one against the SNP but what we saw in England and Wales was pretty much the exact opposite of what we normally see in a protest election)
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Jun 10, 2017 11:14
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jBrereton posted:mmmm I dunno So you're saying that Corbyn caused protest voters to vote labour when they otherwise wouldn't have? That is by definition not a protest vote
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Jun 10, 2017 11:18
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jBrereton posted:no I'm saying that Corbyn might have caused people to vote Labour as a protest vote, especially in Scotland. A protest vote is a vote against, not a vote for. If your motives are based - even in part - on the merits of who you're voting for then you aren't protest voting. Somebody voting Labour because they hate the establishment and now view labour as a threat to it is no more a protest voter than someone who votes Labour because they want the trains nationalised
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Jun 10, 2017 11:31
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History Comes Inside! posted:I was too young (like, 10-11) to really notice when Blair's Labour started their rise and eventually came to power, was the press as right wing and angry about it as they are about the prospect of a Labour government now? New Labour ads literally had product placement for the sun
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Jun 10, 2017 11:33
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OK, at least one of them did
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Jun 10, 2017 11:33
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Playstation 4 posted:Yeah, you're right, they're too dark, I used dumb noise effects and UJ isn't a good scaling flag. Holy poo poo that's a jump in quality
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Jun 10, 2017 11:48
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Comrade Cheggorsky posted:Pissflaps' now famous "Good morning fellow Corbyn fans" post should be added to the op forever and ever It was like the punchline to the world's longest joke. Also genuinely funny in a completely intentional way. Even if flaps backslides from Corbyn i hope he doesn't backslide from making funny posts
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Jun 10, 2017 12:20
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Angepain posted:I've got it down to 96k, anyone who actually really knows what they're doing with regards to gif optimisation is welcome to try shrinking it further I got it down to zero 
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Jun 10, 2017 12:24
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Lord Buckethead is about as British as you can get without being involved in a semi-aristocratic paedophile ring
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Jun 10, 2017 12:30
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Jose posted:i'd much rather have a muffin than a crumpet I personally like both although i find myself having an easier time with crumpets
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Jun 10, 2017 12:34
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No idea why we're talking in euphemisms though
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Jun 10, 2017 12:35
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RabidWeasel posted:The most insane thing about this is that demographically it's not even an "enthusiastic youth vs. older people" thing but it's almost as far as to be the retired vs. people who are in full time education or work. I'd love to hear some opinions on why this has become so much more severe in recent years. My suspicion? People who get their news from tabloids vs other sources
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Jun 10, 2017 13:22
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How does an American news outlet gently caress up a freedom fries reference?
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Jun 10, 2017 13:28
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RabidWeasel posted:That's my first guess as well, but it just feels a bit overly simplistic and I don't see why it would be so much more pronounced in particular in the last 2 elections compared to previously. It seems more plausible if you consider it combined with use of the internet / social media as an alternate news source. Bingo. I was actually talking about that earlier in the thread
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Jun 10, 2017 13:34
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botany posted:actually lolling IRL "We can't work with Corbyn because he's totally rumbled us"
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Jun 10, 2017 13:35
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RabidWeasel posted:'everyone is talking about politics recently'. Beautiful isn't it?
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Jun 10, 2017 13:47
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Angepain posted:well we men already knew that women were better than us but more confirmation is always welcome There was a similar breakdown in the leadership contest. Lot of confused Americans being all "But feminists are natural enemies of the left???"
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Jun 10, 2017 13:54
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Regarde Aduck posted:Oh gently caress. I thought one good thing about all this is that little plan was dead in the water. For gently caress sake. Boris knife her now you floppy haired dickface. Boris loves the internet. There's no way he doesn't browse for hosed up poo poo on various boorus. I thought half the point of being a Tory MP is that you get all the hosed up poo poo delivered straight to your doorstep
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Jun 10, 2017 13:57
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mediadave posted:As the Tories are now reliant on their Scottish seats, even with the DUP, does Cameron's EVEL bill screw things up for them? Nope. More non-tory Scottish seats than Tory ones. It actually helps them
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Jun 10, 2017 13:59
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Kurtofan posted:what is ecumenism and why do unionists hate it Different denominations working together and finding common ground
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Jun 10, 2017 14:47
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Drone_Fragger posted:Common ground such as concluding that the pope, as a person, does infact exist, followed by a drunken gunfight over if he really is the ultimate authority of gods will on earth or a conceited charlatan. Exactly! We can get a whole conversation before the killing starts
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Jun 10, 2017 14:52
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feedmegin posted:The weird thing is that up into like the early 90s women have historically always voted more Conservative than men. I would like to see gender crossreferenced with age but no poll ever seems to do that
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Jun 10, 2017 15:00
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Guavanaut posted:Wales is a strong contender for the first place to fly the red flag during a workers' uprising. That's my Cympol (Cymgwl?) input. Vengeance for Capel Celyn!
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Jun 10, 2017 15:54
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Turns out the trick to beating the pollsters was pulling random numbers out your arse
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Jun 10, 2017 16:02
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ThomasPaine posted:Still baffled at the number of people who seem convinced that this election was a disaster for Labour 'They lost!'. It's as if they don't quite get the distinction between tactical and strategic objectives. Corbyn is clearly the victor here. All I can hear is the sound of a thousand goalposts being dragged over the dirt. The people shouting "Labour lost!" are the same ones talking about the Tory's "Big win" over the SNP
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