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Labour | 907 | 49.92% | |
Theresa May Team (Conservative) | 48 | 2.64% | |
Liberal Democrats | 31 | 1.71% | |
UKIP | 13 | 0.72% | |
Plaid Cymru | 25 | 1.38% | |
Green | 22 | 1.21% | |
Scottish Socialist Party | 12 | 0.66% | |
Scottish Conservative Party | 1 | 0.06% | |
Scottish National Party | 59 | 3.25% | |
Some Kind of Irish Unionist | 4 | 0.22% | |
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian | 3 | 0.17% | |
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist | 36 | 1.98% | |
Misc. Far Left Trots | 35 | 1.93% | |
Misc. Far Right Fash | 8 | 0.44% | |
Monster Raving Loony | 49 | 2.70% | |
Space Navies Party | 39 | 2.15% | |
Independent / Single Issue | 2 | 0.11% | |
Can't Vote | 188 | 10.35% | |
Won't Vote | 8 | 0.44% | |
Spoiled Ballot | 15 | 0.83% | |
Pissflaps | 312 | 17.17% | |
Total: | 1817 votes |
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Pissflaps posted:As a Remain voter and Labour voter I'd even take a pro-soft Brexit stance but pushing for a hard Brexit is turning me off. And he's pushing for the softest one that aligns with his intention to transform Britain into a better place for all those in it. You can disagree that he'll achieve it but you also spent two years crying that Corbyn was going to be utterly destroyed in a general election and, well...
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 10:02 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 13:08 |
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Pissflaps posted:I've seen nothing from labour that indicates they're pursuing a soft Brexit. You routinely only see what you want to see, and it does not always coincide with reality.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 10:08 |
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Borrovan posted:Okay, don't waste my time by claiming that you do then. What do you think would be the effect of telling 52% of the electorate that you don't respect them? Being fair it's an improvement from his usual 3/5ths.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 11:22 |
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Be honest tho flaps if Corbyn was pushing hard-remain you would be posting here daily on the need to leave the single market.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 11:26 |
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Pissflaps posted:Unlike some here I don't let personality preferences dictate my political opinions. Two years of whining about Corbyn only to be proven wrong suggests otherwise.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 11:33 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Isn't it Labour policy? Pissflaps posted:Nope. http://www.labour.org.uk/index.php/manifesto2017/brexit Ctrl+F "Customs Union"
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 12:06 |
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It's basically safe to assume that when pissflaps says it's not Labour policy, what he means is that Labour hasn't proudly declared it'd going to have its cake and eat it too, so therefore their policy is hard leave, exiting even the WTO and also mandatory union jacks.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 12:07 |
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Guavanaut posted:A second van covered in flags has just crashed into the World Trade Organization. Big Nige been out on the lash again. Probably drinking continental beers, too.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 12:11 |
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brian posted:I don't get all the hubbub about brexit positions, it's all a bit irrelevant when the EU probably won't exist in 5 years and if it does it will have to be markedly different (or far narrower) to survive, I mean yeah we decided as a country to have a lot of completely pointless disruption over it and we'll have a couple of poo poo years before the real poo poo years begin for everyone but the arguments seem all based on the idea that the EU as an institution isn't in a huge amount of trouble. Or maybe i'm just a marxist blyth following idiot and i've got it all wrong. Barky Mark is a good person to follow if you're worried about the future of the UK post-Brexit, less so if you're actually a hardcore Europhile.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 13:23 |
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At this point I'm genuinely hoping that a few weeks from now David Davis comes back from negotiations all shook and just goes "I was wrong. We need to stop this."
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 15:31 |
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mfcrocker posted:How's that Leave vote looking Oh I meant for the hilarity, not because I care either way. I already said many times I don't care if we stay or leave because the fundamental issues with our country are irrelevant to our EU membership. Anyway, in other news, the Graun has turned on Chuckles for his little amendment fuckery: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/30/chuka-umunna-single-market-amendment-brexit-split-labour-party
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 15:38 |
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Gorn Myson posted:My hope after the vote last year was that no politician have the backbone to pull the trigger on Brexit given how obviously stupid a decision it is. In actual fact, our politicians don't have the backbone to risk the ire of the British pollution by refusing to act on it. So I wouldn't expect Davis to do anything except rescind all responsibility for what happens in the negotiations by blaming anyone he possibly can. He'll probably get away with it too given that the narratives of "Remainers want to sabotage this" and "the EU is bullying us" have already gained traction in the press. Would be nice if this convinces the Tories to push on press regulation to save them from a tabloid mauling. Basically every day I post in here I bang on about press regulation. We need it.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 15:51 |
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MikeCrotch posted:We need to regulate the relationship between the head and body of a few press barons if you know what I mean I genuinely hope Paul Dacre lives to see progressivism tear down everything he holds dear. And then taste the guillotine.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 16:06 |
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R. Mute posted:I think we all know that - which makes it all the more insulting, really. Cushy high-paying jobs on corporate boards of directors.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 16:18 |
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learnincurve posted:Realistically how long would Boris actually last as PM though? One press conference.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 16:22 |
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MikeCrotch posted:Donald J Trump is President of the United States of America His party are scared of him. The Tories are not scared of Boris Johnson.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 16:28 |
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Better the nuclear stop-gap than getting brutally owned by climate change, IMO.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 21:37 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 13:08 |
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Renewables would be the future if we had a future. Enjoy your preventable deaths, comrades.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 22:53 |