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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I'm going to kissflaps

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Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Not putting me in the poll is an outrage and I urge you to use whichever option is closest in alphabetical order to namtab to vote for me

E: that would be "monster raving loony"

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Guy Goodbody posted:

I'm not from England, I don't know how things work over there, but why are Lib Dems in this election? Weren't they completely destroyed last time you guys decided to have an election? How are they still claiming to be a political party?

By still having members and mps

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Namtab posted:

Not putting me in the poll is an outrage and I urge you to use whichever option is closest in alphabetical order to namtab to vote for me

E: that would be "monster raving loony"

Alternatively the mods should add a namtab option

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

\o/ share your energy with Corbyn, only he can slay mayjin buu

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I'm boycotting the thread poll until I am included

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

ISeeCuckedPeople posted:

Reposting this since it was posted in what I assume was the middle of a debate:

Even though I'm an American I took yer poll fer poo poo an giggles.

http://imgur.com/a/Zer0v

The poll sucked - that or the way the campaigns present themselves is very misleading. Even I who follows British politics quite closely, was unable to decipher quite a bit of the policy questions.

We're going to have to have words about your ideas re: health policy

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

I wanted to do that survey thing to get the pie chart but it told me it would take 28 minutes so I didn't.

You could answer on less issues. Pick the 5 most important to you

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

spectralent posted:

I assumed you came under "Misc. Far Left Trots".

It'd be nice but mo is nearer to na than mi. It's why the op should get the mod to add me to the poll.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

It's easy to find the ukip one because they're the only ones that talk about restricting foreign nationals when it comes to healthcare.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Paperhouse posted:

His opening speech was laughable but he's had some decent rebuttals so far

I don't get why some of the other left parties are attacking Corbyn and Labour on anything :confused: that's not the target man

Realistically their votes are going to come from Labour voters. See: recent Scottish politics

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Tintowers been quiet lately

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

deletebeepbeepbeep posted:

How big is PISSFLAPS hard on?

I'll tell you once I get done seducing him

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Roland Jones posted:

(he wasn't aware that the Tories were the Conservatives and thought they were two separate parties).

Your mate doesn't seem too bright imo

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

spectralent posted:

The Lib Dems would be finished if he did this. It's all they have left.

I remember tintower posting something along the lines of "the membership won't let him do a coalition if it means brexit" as tho the lib dems have principles beyond getting in power

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Maybe UK politics and parties aren't really comparable to the American situation, and a key to understanding our system is to not try and compare it to yours.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

The fact that we have multiple mainline parties for a start

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

ISeeCuckedPeople posted:

But that's really not possible for an American that's the only situation they know and understand.

Have you ever heard of Plato's Allegory of the Cave?

I don't believe in allegories, they get in the way.

I could give a modern history of the Labour party, but there's people itt better able to do so than me.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Broadly speaking though you've got at least three wings of the Labour party all vying for control, with corbyns wing holding the leadership and the membership but the majority of mps and the nec being the others.

externally on the left you've got the liberal democrats who want to play kingmaker and thus are quite happy to erode Labour support to do so. The snp are a nationalist party and want either independence or as much power for Scotland as they can get. The greens are largely irrelevant in all this.

On the right you've got the conservatives who also have several wings but mostly follow thatchers economic policies (think Reagan). There's also ukip who again are a single issue party (hard brexit, now exploring vague islamophobia).

Brexit is a big complication as well, with Labour in the worst situation as they control London (strong remain) but also 40 of the 50 largest Leave seats in the country. The Tories are in a similar situation with this divide but have fallen into the party line of leaving. This makes a coalition of the left complicated as any allies will want concessions on brexit which may be seen as a betrayal by part of the Labour voting base. Additionally the lib dems are just as likely to prop up a Tory government.


So yeah, there's a lot of nuance here

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

The snp would be more likely to negotiate with Labour, but the underlying goal of the snp is Scottish independence because England is holding them back from being the land of milk and honey (probably half true).

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

R. Guyovich posted:

i did the quiz and somehow got the tory answer on housing. what's the catch on their plan to build the most homes

The houses are built out of the bones of the poor, and sold only to landlords

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

That's what asbestos is for

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Not all the lefties in this thread are full communists either. We're a broad church United by a lust for a progressive government and a desire to seduce pissflaps

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Serotonin posted:

To go with the last of kicking in the head we have had?

Treat us mean, keep us keen

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

JFairfax posted:

what is your gameplan for seducing pissflaps, Namtab?

There's no plan for love

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

learnincurve posted:

We need an age cap. If your average life expectancy means you probably won't last a full term, then you don't get a vote. Sensible older people will see the logic, it will be the OLD, LOUD, AND FRIGHTENED who kick off about it and they are exactly the people we want to exclude. Boomer generation are now firmly in this category.

Will cut out all of the bullshit where governments build policy around people who are nearly dead because they know they are the biggest voting block, and force them to concentrate on the youth and long term policy.

My nan is 90 today , she's not old, venerable and wise. she can't figure out how her boiler works and organised a boycott of a local pub because they put the Wednesday pensioners special up by £1 without giving anyone warning. According to my nan It would have been ok if they had told everyone a few weeks before, but because they only put it on the board on the Monday their business had to fail (which it did) as a punishment or something(????). These people can vote.

Happy birthday to this guys nan

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

learnincurve posted:

Thanks, I have an hour of freedom before I have to go to a racist old ladies birthday party. I will have to politely sit through much twittering about how May is wonderful and that she will save us from "theY browns" whilst wondering at what point she will work out that I'm mixed race. It's been 37 years and the woman still hasn't clocked it, I'm convinced she thinks I just tan well.

You should tell her

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Oberleutnant posted:

Imagine Gove all sweaty and bloated and red faced, smacking and licking his lips as he moves in for a damp slobbery kiss.

Sounds like me after I seduce pissflaps

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Post your address, we'll send namtab round. You can seduce each other

Let's me clear here, this is one way seduction. I am immune to pissflaps hypothetical charms, but he is not immune to mine.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

drat I thought the mail loved supporting nazis like Trump

It's even weirder for their headlines to acknowledge that climate change exists

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

TomViolence posted:

The Mail wants a green and pleasant land populated with white heterosexuals, they probably have some weird anti-modernist green right stance on environmental issues when it comes right down to it.

I grew up reading the mail, they really don't.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

jBrereton posted:

Does Diane Abbott not count as an establishment PLP big hitter?

She's a big hitter?

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Please bear in mind before becoming hopeful that old people may very well have postally voted weeks ago

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

The only poll I trust is the exit

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

That might happen if Corbyn doesn't resign after the election.

Just proves that they weren't really on the side of organised Labour.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

I talked to my mum about the election and she ended up carrying me around the house on her shoulders.

Ah, the tiny pissflaps meme

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Considering that I've had a BNP member threaten my family due to my sisters being mixed race and being autistic myself I'd say you are wrong

You're exposed to bigotry, and your response is to oppose social justice because of the actions of (mostly) idiot teens on tumblr?

Social justice is a great thing.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Those who seek to limit and curtail the freedoms of a individual in order to meet their collectivist/marxist aims. Those will use underhanded means to try and destroy ideological opponents while claiming its in the name of equality and tolerance.

Which freedoms are you thinking of? the freedom of bnp man's speech? The freedom of the edl to protest against the brown man? The freedom of the rich to earn more than they will ever need while people are starving and homeless? What freedoms are you frightened of losing?

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

The freedom of people to call the people I support "retards" and advocate for them to receive less then minimum wage or be put in institutions?

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Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I've said this before, but if the far right you support with bollocks like bleating about "cultural Marxism" and "the regressive left" win, they will come after you. The autistic are no safer from the fash than the browns or Jews. You are advocating an ideology that ultimately hates you.

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