Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

Both sides are wrong as they both seek to curtail my freedom

I'd never support the far right but that doesn't mean I don't think the far left are going to protect in the long run either

NotJustANumber99 posted:

If you're working in a care home I think part of the duty of care to those patients/clients/whatever should probably include not taking photographs of them, yeah.

learnincurve posted:

Errr she knows nothing about learning disabilities, a lot of them can be picked up at baby checks. How will school training help that?

Vitamin P posted:

Do people normally troll Daily Mail comments? Out of morbid curiosity I scrolled down after reading their version of events and, like

Igiari posted:

The very final thing, that, oh my god this loving triggered me. It was just, on a, on a deep seated level I couldn't get over this. This really loving pissed me off. So brace yourselves.

This was a tweet from Bernie Sanders' account AND I KNOW, that Bernie Sanders doesn't do the tweeting himself, but it's his name. It's verified, he chooses the people who tweet in his name so he can take some loving responsibility for what they say, because he has signed off on it.

"President Trump, you made a big mistake. By trying to divide us by race, religion, gender and nationality you actually brought us closer." with 300,000 retweets gently caress, gently caress You!

gently caress you, Bernie. gently caress off. Trump did not try to divide you by race religion gender and nashamanama YOU are the cunts dividing people by race and gender!!

IT'S A loving WOMEN'S MARCH, BERNIE

gently caress. God this is a trrhrrhrhrhrh!

Holy loving poo poo I'm totally triggered by this. Bvfvfvvfvvf.

Regarde Aduck posted:

I think it was almost certainly a planted audience. On the other hand Corbyn should have expected it.

hakimashou posted:

"Mutually Assured Destruction" is the greatest force for peace in human history.

A leader of a nuclear nation without the moral courage to commit to deterrence is a threat to world peace, no matter what he thinks his intentions are.

learnincurve posted:

Is it now. How much of this evidence came to light after the Tory party discovered just how expensive special schools are? Cases should be assessed on an individual basis, it is absolutely horrifying that government and council pen pushers get to override actual medical professionals, and it's nothing short of evil that some areas won't even start the diagnosis process for children with ASD until they are 3, learning difficulties or not.

If you show me somone who thinks a child with Down's syndrome would do better in a poor inner city school than they would in a special school then I'll show you a oval office.

Jose posted:

i liked the bloke who was of the belief that if corbyn launched nukes it would stop the ones already on their way to us

Not Operator posted:

Watch your back, Pyongyang! Britain is strong, stable and horny for nukes.

Pissflaps posted:

Those are questions you should be asking when considering whether to have a deterrent at all, by when it should be used. Renewing Trident is in the manifesto.

Pissflaps posted:

It's not a deterrent if the prime minister isn't prepared to authorise their use. I understand the options are there for the prime minister to choose from, and confirmed in the letters of last resort.

Hoops posted:

Where do you think a nuclear deterrent conversation is going to get you? What's your goal from this posting endeavour?

Pissflaps posted:

If every NATO member adopted that attitude then there would be a NATO.

Pissflaps posted:

Do you think the chances of Corbyn authorising a retaliatory strike are more or less than his predecessors ?

Pissflaps posted:

So we've got dozens of the usual suspect Corbynites defending his position by explaining that they wouldn't want a retaliatory strike because it's pointless anyway.

But you want me to believe his position on authorising such a strike is as ambiguous as anybody else's?

Horseshit.

Pissflaps posted:

if retaliation is not one of the options then the effectiveness of it as a deterrent is undermined.


Jesus.

learnincurve posted:

I too am speaking as an actual medical professional. In our area they are supposed to take the evidence presented by medical professionals and follow their recommendations, in your area it might be different.

I'm not looking at every single school like it's a wonderful nurturing environment. Inner city schools have horrendous problems with bullying, the worst of them have problems with knife crime. As I said it's a case by case thing. Of course some children do fine with one on one support, but putting a vulnerable child with downs or severe learning difficulties into one of those sink schools is like throwing them to the wolves. They could of course be put into a unit within the school, but in many schools that's where the special needs children are kept for their own saftey for most of the school day. They only get to use the rest of the school's facilities when the other children are not using them.

You are also being very unfair to how well special schools manage socialisation and life building skills. They often do a much better job than mainstream schools, especially at secondary school age. It's genuinely offence and wrong to belittle what they do.


The reason special schools are so expensive per child is that this is how much it costs to properly educate and do therapy for those children. Having all the therapists in one place, a school nurse, and a GP, assigned to one place makes more sense than having them roam around different mainstream schools or, worse, having the child have to leave school to go to an appointment somewhere else.

Only starting the process at three, no matter how obvious it is is evil. You can pick up on it very early, if a baby does not make eye contact for example. My son had a diagnosis at 18 months old. It is absolutely crucial that therapy starts as early as possible and that they end up in the correct school environment. You start diagnosis at three it could be a year before they even get an appointement, then it will take up to two years for an actual diagnosis to happen. That makes it six years old. You know what they don't need to provide now? ASD nurseries, or one on one support for nursery age children.
It has absolutely nothing to do with developmental levels, they are just using that as an excuse to save money,

Mr. Flunchy posted:

If there was a hypothetical Labour/SNP coalition, is it to be taken for granted that the SNP would demand a guaranteed Indyref 2?

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Doorstepping today. Most bizarre was a "National Front and BNP all my life but I like your lad Corbyn." Apart from that a lot of "I never vote" or "I don't like Corbyn but May is even shitter"

Pochoclo posted:

Can you imagine what it's like to be the guy that has to moderate Sun / Mail comments?

chernobyl kinsman posted:

when the majority of members of a religion hold hostilely intolerant views that directly contradict the foundations of your society it can be a bit tough to keep falling back on "well thats their beliefs and i respect that" yea

Dead Cosmonaut posted:

Maybe it's time to start going after the families of these suspects and deport them

Steve2911 posted:

Are they supposed to influence the election? If so, in what direction?

Hoops posted:

Hurrr I'm going to quote the troll posts and give them a withering dismissive put down to get them to stop because that's exactly what works my god some of you get a grip

Lord_Adonis posted:

I could be wrong, but in my albeit limited historical understanding, I do not know of a state that could sustain a multi-generational war via the total mobilisation of its society and economy. Eventually, with no prospect of victory and complete international isolation, an inevitable choice has to be made between total societal collapse and negotiation that permits an end to the unsustainable total mobilisation.

Lord_Adonis posted:

With regards to the deployment of 'crusader' armies (NATO and perhaps Russia, would be counted as such I would guess) in Iraq and Syria, surely the winning move is not to play. Instead, allow the states of the region to maintain a cordon with logistical and air support from outside the region if requested from said states and adopt a point defence strategy on the ground. Deprived of access to funds, food and munitions from outside, attrition will see to it that the ISIS Caliphate cannot expand its borders beyond those permitted by the cordon. ISIS may be able to inspire acts of terror from people in the Cordon states, which can be dealt with on an individual basis by the security services of those states. Eventually their rulers will have to choose between food and normalisation, or slow starvation. It is possible that, thanks to their ruler's instinct for self-preservation (despite their lofty rhetoric of martyrdom) or rebellion from below, they will choose the former.

Fans posted:

The way the system works Sixers are able to be auto approved and everything else needs to be cleared by one of the higher up admins. So if you see they just got a sixer it could be because the rest of it hasn't gone through yet.

Lord_Adonis posted:

[quote="Namtab" post="473009701"]
Sucks to be a civilian in the meantime tho.

This is true. What I am advocating for is probably on the dumber side of dumb, but options need to be explored that allow us to hold ISIS at arms length whilst concentrating on Point Defence at home, and pursuing social and economic policies that can ameliorate the sense of alienation from wider society that are a large component in the motivation of these domestic terrorists.

ISeeCuckedPeople posted:

The answer in the west at the very least is to form task force organizations that specifically target youth and young people at risk to being radicalized for cultural inclusion and guidance.

These group are going to have to be religious in nature to be effective. And they are going to need ample funding.

There is unfortunately nothing like that out there.

Fog Tripper posted:

Honest question, on what grounds do you imagine they should be getting probations?

OwlFancier posted:

Mexico and South America: Not The West.

Fog Tripper posted:

And your choice of debate is to have them probated?

I personally come into D&D to read up when stuff like this happens. It's pretty damning that all pretense of debate is tossed out the window because some are uncomfortable with the discussion.

Fog Tripper posted:

Regarde Aduck posted:

Yes because the mentally ill man said he was a bernie supporter that means it's true. Shouting at minorities was just something he did as a hobby. Totally unrelated.

Have you considered that mentally ill people might not be easy to categorise as either "right" or "left" because their state of mind is inconsistent?


Get out you piece of poo poo.

Fog Tripper posted:

Would it be worthy of your debate if it was directed at Christians?

smoke sumthin bitch posted:

Smells like another false flag just like the manchester attack. Watch this in a few days it will come out that the attackers were all being watched by the secret services who chose to stand down for obscure reasons.

TomViolence posted:

Don't really give much of a gently caress about your gardening or beekeeping when your rap sheet's got such gems as this, to be quite honest.