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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Skinty McEdger posted:

https://twitter.com/PARoyal/status/877540431390810115

One does not gently caress around with speed limits to get to the horseys.

Wait: she switched into her blue EU hat explicitly for the Queens speech, and got changed for ascot? Lol

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Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Yep, it would be another "This new government wants to introduce full Corbynism now" speach

What I'm not sure about is if Corbyn has to try and pass another Queens Speech before he can call for a new election, or if he can just say to the queen "Nah, I don't want to have a go, another election please"

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Reveilled posted:

So do they do a full reopening of parliament to go with it, or does the Queen just show up to the Lords to do the speechy bit?

Speechy bit - parliament has now reopened after the election, government just hasn't passed what they are doing this year yet.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Neurolimal posted:

Hey, just wanted to congratulate you guys on an amazing Labour performance; it's really energized leftists in America, and if I'm ever in the UK I'd love to buy a brit goon involved in getting the vote out a beer :unsmith:

I was really surprised by how quickly Lavour politicians turned around on Corbyn with hardly a grimace; I figured they were like our politicians and vehemently opposed leftism on the grounds of fellating rich folk, but I guess they sincerely thought Centrism was the way?

Some of them still believe that (same way some of Blair's labour remained socalists, see The Absolute Boy), but most really feared that Corbyn would lead Labour to a huge defeat and give the Tories 5 more years with the country, and that any Labour government no matter how centrist had to be better than that. Now they've been proved wrong, they are allowing themselves to be proper leftists again.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Also, people are bad at judging risk and probably think "It will be fine, I'll just stay here another few weeks. If we haven't burnt down yet its fine surely?"

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


The only time I'd see a second referendum is once the deal is decided near the end of two years, putting it to the public as a "Are you sure about this guys?" kind of thing once our new relationship to the EU (being it's bitch) is clear. If there's no details, it would just end a rerun of the last one where everyone is voting for their personal brexit.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Wouldn't kicking us out the EU if we decided to stay require unanimous consent of the other countries? And Ireland at the very least would be extremely relieved to not have to worry about the NI border. Given that EU states have said before that article 50 is revocable , if we then revoke it and they "hey, that's not allowed" they have some weasel words to go through, and it would probably go to the EU supreme Court.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Nope: you election the individual, not the party. The two Tories who defected to UKIP called (and won) by-elections to prove their legitimacy, but it's not required.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


I personally think that Brexit is bad and shouldn't happen, but the best way to get out of the Brexit conundrum is to negotiate a (bad) deal, which is what any Brexit deal will be, and then take it back to the British people and get them to reject it once the exact terms of how hosed we are set, and then revoke article 50 under the "political change" clause, and try and keep the government afloat.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


spectralent posted:

At present (or at least a little while ago) we produced enough food for everyone on earth to be well-fed. Food production growth has outpaced population growth for two decades. This is a relatively unoptimised output because food production is kinda hosed, but that's still a shitload of food. The issue is that an enormous portion of this goes into bins, and even of the food that makes it into mouths, a load of it is going into the same mouths so people are eating like 3000-4000 calories when they need 2000-2500. The trouble is, like the Empire did in Ireland and India, modern states do in Africa and the middle east; food doesn't go to the starving because the starving are too poor.


It's not food we need to worry about : It's stuff like metals, fossil fuels (even if just for plastics), the stuff used to make western consumer goods generally. We can feed the world, sure, but can we cloth and house them to 1st world standards?

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Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Well yea: if renewables pay off and give us the holy grail of free energy, we can synthesise most poo poo via chemistry: the burden has always been the energy cost to do so more than the understanding. Honestly, I personally see space-mining as a possible solution to this problem: Only way to not run out of metals on Earth is to take them from space, which punts the problem a few hundred years in the future. Also means we won't have toxic environment-destroying mines all over the planet. Hence why it needs to be space-communism.

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