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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012
UKMT is left-wing because those types of opinions tend to fare better in a moderated environment. In a forum with no rules, right-wing thought (both 'ironic' and genuine) tends to flourish, because internet douchebag theory.

When it comes to ideology, very few people from the left or the right that I encounter think that the current situation is in any way sustainable, so the question becomes 'what is the best solution to this'. UKMT (correctly I feel) points out that systematic disenfranchisement and inequality is one of the root causes of all the world's ills, and when that is placed up against the admittedly cherished idea of fiscal freedom for the wealthiest in society, which arguably is what lead us to this situation in the first place, the latter doesn't hold much water. When enough people agree with that in a localised space, it forms a consensus, a group of people who are more interested in discussing the nuances within their belief system, rather than relitigating the broad thrusts over and over (which is something I think all of us in this thread are well accustomed to irl).

GBS is like a lovely version of the home-counties, expressing much the same view as many of the older folk who have an inherent distrust of anything foreign or different to them. UKMT is like the metaphorical Manchester of SA, good and correct.

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a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

Regarde Aduck posted:

Allied vehicles were loving cool and have an unjust reputation because of wehraboo historians. Shoot fascists through the vision slit with 17pdr APDS every day. Do not worry about the [REDACTED] accuracy rumours. Propaganda and all that.

The t-34 was objectively the best tank of the era.

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

DesperateDan posted:

no inbuilt boiling device, no place in this comrade's army

Don't get me wrong I would still rather drive around in a late-war Panzer (I know I know, to the gulag :commissar:). Much more spacious and comfortable. It's just that all that new tech made it so unreliable and expensive that it lost to the t-34 in terms of shear efficiency. :v:

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012
Couple of tidbits from my friends in the civil service.

- Tories reckon they can turn Slough, campaigned hard there.

- Someone I know running a polling station feels that too many husbands are 'helping' their wives with their votes, either telling them who to vote for or outright going into the polling booth with them.

Makes me pretty angry to think about.

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

serious gaylord posted:

Isn't the second part illegal?

It is but, and I quote, 'we can't really do anything because it isn't in substantive enough numbers to get the police involved'. Apparently it is a commonality?

mfcrocker posted:

Not quite sure how civil servants would know about either of these

...Because they are aware of campaigning activity, particularly from significant members of different parties, in their constituencies? And they are an active part of organising the voting process?

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a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

Halisnacks posted:

My boss is an intelligent woman who happens to have zero interest in politics. She is open about the fact that she votes based on who her husband recommends. Though I did relish the moment she said "He keeps making me vote for this Goldsmith guy who doesn't seem to win."

(I tried to convince her to go Lib Dem but I think her husband has more clout than me, her underling.)

It's a bit of a different kettle of fish if it is happening IN the polling station though.

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

mfcrocker posted:

Which civil service department? Because the Electoral Commission isn't civil service and would be the body that actually knows about that.

I've misapprehended precisely what 'civil service' is and used the wrong word. One of them is currently managing a polling station, the other is a bureaucrat at a council.

e: Define civil service for me because I thought it was someone who worked for the government but wasn't elected.

edit 2 : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Service_(United_Kingdom)

Fair dos

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a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012
Bopping about inside a student union right now. Lots of Jeremy corbyn chants from the crowd. C'mon son, break the tories.

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012
High youth turnout, already seeing some old prunes calling for the voting age to be increased to 25, citing 'lack of real world experience'.

Yes Corbyn.

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

Groovelord Neato posted:

i could kiss you brits on your snaggle toothed mouths.

Our dental is cheaper than yours if you're a yank.

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

Angepain posted:

Well done everyone this thread now has enough pages to form a majority in parliament

Only if we form a coalition with pissflaps. (Which I am happy to do so long as it is drunkflaps).

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

Why do Tories all look like.. well tories? That Grayling chap looks like loving Mr Creedy from V for Vendetta.

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Humiliation for loser Clegg



If his book leaves some extra dents in the conservatives then I am atleast more ambivalent towards him. Without the coalition government odds are we wouldn't have a renewed left/corbyn ascendant.

the accelerationists were right!! :downs:

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012
So, any UKMT regulars headed to Glastonbury for the weekend? I know it's terribly 'rah rah rah' of me but it's basically my holiday this year and I get to see the absolute boy.

As an aside, could you imagine Theresa May on the pyramid stage? I think she'd dissolve into a puddle.

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

Firos posted:

Glasto goon reporting in :toot:

I managed to assemble my Corbs outfit for about £17. Pretty pleased.

I know a surprising number of people doing this.

Red Oktober posted:

Going for the first time ever, pretty excited. Line up looks amazing.

You're gonna have an awesome time. Weather is shaping up quite nicely, so you won't be getting the full wellies and mud experience.

forkboy84 posted:

I have strong feelings about Glasto. Mostly the revolve around the absence of metal bands when you consider how big a promoter of groups like Napalm Death & Carcass that a guy like John Peel was. That said, there's always something worth catching on telly, like last year they had The Family Stone & Funkadelic bands jamming together (without Sly obviously because he's a broken mess) & that was great. This year I'll definitely catch Run the Jewels, Chic, Kate Tempest, Sleaford Mods & the Boy Better Know collective, and assuming it's streamed on the BBC I'd also like to watch Justin Townes Earle & Cabbage

I just looked at the full line up and have seen that Wormrot & Extreme Noise Terror on the bill. loving hell. That's ridiculously cool. Maybe they've finally gotten over their fear of evil heavy metal fans somehow ruining their hippie wankfest.

Nobody wanted to go download with me :(

I don't tend to touch main stage, but I will for corbs and Radiohead.

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

Cerv posted:

people who wear fancy dress to festivals are the worst. I hope they all get the shits and fall into a long drop

Well don't look at me.. I look like a generic festival fratbro (unavoidable really, t-shirt + shorts and going to the gym even slightly will do that).

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

communism bitch posted:

Michael Phelps is a loving gremlin. But in terms of muscle mass and distribution swimmers always have a nice balance.

As a former 'pretty alright' competitive swimmer, I can say that no, swimmers bodies are freaky. I still have really wide but flat shoulders to this day, its not a traditional body-type for sure.

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012
Corbo-report: has just driven through the festival site, everybody pretty much dropping what they are doing to say hello.

E: the atmosphere here is exceptionally pro-corbyn, I think he is really going to kill it at 4.00.

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a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012
Glastonbury gets by despite its huge costs because the artists themselves do it for barely a fraction of their usual fee. Such is the mythos and legendary status of this event. I imagine that wouldn't change under corbyn.

And also I wish this meme about everyone here being middle class would die off. Yes, the tickets are expensive, but all of that is put into the festival, the eavises are not making big profits out of it. The financing scheme is £20 per month and it gives you plenty of time to get the money together.

There is a poo poo tonne of people here from all walks of life. Barring the posh toffs who live in prebuilt tents and exclusive campsites, everybody is on a similar level here, it is an equaliser and there is something for everyone. The only other complaint is food prices, and I wish there was a way that could be brought under control a bit. But you can bring as much cheap food and drink as you want into the festival, unlike other places that will limit that to force you to buy from vendors.

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a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

'I want something mediocre where I don't have to take a strong position on anything. Please, just let us go back to the status quo so I can be rich in peace.' - Every centrist.

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