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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
| Total: | 1817 votes | ||
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Midnight- posted:So if we stay in the custom union, that stops us from making our own trade deals with other, non-eu, countries? Yes.
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brian posted:I don't get all the hubbub about brexit positions, it's all a bit irrelevant when the EU probably won't exist in 5 years and if it does it will have to be markedly different (or far narrower) to survive, I mean yeah we decided as a country to have a lot of completely pointless disruption over it and we'll have a couple of poo poo years before the real poo poo years begin for everyone but the arguments seem all based on the idea that the EU as an institution isn't in a huge amount of trouble. Or maybe i'm just a marxist blyth following idiot and i've got it all wrong. The fact that there are a lot of serious problems in how the EU is run and structured and how its benefits are divided, both between and within countries, is by itself in no way enough to lead to its destruction. Particularly when there is an object lesson available for why it's such a terrible idea to try and leave the EU. People can point to the divergence between core and periphery in the Euro area, or the refusal of Eastern European countries to share the burden of taking in refugees, or whichever other point you could justifiably make about what's wrong with the EU, but in order for the EU to disappear, you need an actual mechanism that causes its dissolution: politicians running on an agenda to exit from the EU, winning elections in numerous member states at once to avoid Britain's fate of isolation, and then them agreeing on what comes after, dividing the spoils/costs, and trying to avoid chaos in the meantime, while still getting reelected for long enough to actually accomplish anything. That's just not very plausible for the foreseeable future.
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