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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Fans posted:Any situation in which Russia goes insane and starts nuking people invalidates MAD because if they've gone crazy why would they even care about MAD? jabby posted:In this scenario the aggressor nation is gambling that the UK's allies (or any other nuclear armed country) won't detect the launches and simply launch a massive retaliatory strike. That's a pretty huge gamble. If you're arguing for an aggressor that is completely willing to risk everything to bomb the UK why would Trident deter them, considering there's a decent chance the Prime Minister won't order a futile retaliation anyway? I had almost this exact argument on Twitter with someone recently. (I know.. sigh) But have you considered that ~someone~ might do it for ~some reason~ but might be put off by Trident ~because~?  Edit: The worst part was that he compared trident to seat belts because they're both "preventative measures".
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Cars should come with preventative measures that ensure the death of people in the other car if they crash into you. https://twitter.com/GhamGraham/status/879059924009005056
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WeAreTheRomans posted:How can you be so smug admitting your analogy is loving stupid? The analogy marched on! https://twitter.com/GhamGraham/status/879064118766039041
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radmonger posted:If you are saying some such scenario definitely cannot happen, then it is not immmoral to give orders for retaliation as they will definitely never be read. Yes, I view Trident as utterly pointless and can't fathom any orders you could give in the letters of last resort that aren't either immoral or irrelevant. Of course if you assume there's even an infinitesimal chance of the letter being opened then you should not consider it an amoral document. Back in reality though; It's a waste of resources, and has a political, ethical, and moral cost for sending out the wrong message to our own population and the rest of the world.
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radmonger posted:In which case, you definitely don't understand the argument being made. What on earth are are you talking about?
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hakimashou posted:The point of MAD is to stop them doing it for rational reasons. Any rational person knows that MAD only exists between the USA and Russia.
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Julio Cruz posted:Osborne versus May is one of those conflicts where you desperately hope both sides will end up getting destroyed. Speaking of MAD....
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Kegluneq posted:If only this country had a real Opposition! #LibDemFightback
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So basically the Tories have ensured that tomorrow all the papers will have headlines talking about how they voted to block ending the public sector pay freeze. Of course the irony is that the more Labour lead in the polls the more Tory MPs are scared of another election which means this shambles continues making Labour even more popular. It'll have to snap sooner or later though.
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Tesseraction posted:Clive hasn't been on Twitter for 2 days despite usually being prolific. Gonna guess he wasn't swanning around Westminster all day before mysteriously disappearing. Hope he's all right. Isn't he on his honeymoon or something?
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If you think that public opinion might turn against Brexit enough to prevent it then Labour is your only option. I don't want Brexit any more than Corbyn wants Trident. But we both recognise the political reality of living in a democratic system. Especially when there's just been a loving referendum.
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:If I told pissflaps he was wrong it would be because pissflaps is wrong. That would be my motivation. I hope you like the sound of goalposts moving!
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radmonger posted:If there had been a referendum that said 'Trident is good', and then the party in office was interpreting that as meaning 'nuke the Sun now', but then their minority government collapsed over that and you came to power, would you feel similarly obliged to press the metaphorical big red button? Are you drunk?
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Jun 29, 2017 23:56
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Coohoolin posted:Goddammit Corbyn and his loving Brexit whips. Wasn't there an article shared here a while back about how a lot of it is McDonnell and Abbott's influence that drives Corbyn's euroscepticism? It seems odd to me that people expect Labour to pursue a divisive policy only supported by about 20% of the country at the moment. It worked super good for the #LibDemFightback after all.
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Pissflaps posted:80% of the country wants a hard brexit? No, but only 20% is "hard remain". Not much more than that want "hard brexit" either. The fact is the Labour's currently policy is the most reflective of the national mood. I'm not happy about it but pigfucker called a referendum and we have to at least be seen to giving it a chance before we try and turn this ship(wreck) around. If Labour had whipped for an amendment to stay in the single market it's exactly what the Tories would want to bring politics back to being only about Brexit.
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