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whypick1 posted:I'm OK with not watching NFL games in VR because I'm not ready to poo poo my pants the first time it looks like Suh is going to kill me and not the QB whose view I'm looking at. Basketball would be the worst. Someone gets posterized bad enough and you'd have more white boy shellshock cases then Verdun.
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Silly Burrito posted:Give me VR Benchcam. Just set it on top of the watercooler or something. Hey, hey, get the hell out of here Novak 
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Jun 1, 2017 22:41
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Not even a little surprised (if it was real).
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Jun 3, 2017 00:47
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I am in fact ready for some football, so let's do this Hank loving sing that song and talk about how Andy Dalton and Sam Bradford are ready for all psyched for monday night.
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Jun 5, 2017 14:29
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Who are the Chiefs paying all their money to? $50m in space this year to Houston, Alex Smith and Eric Fisher. Then $8.5m on Tamba Hali $8m Bennie Logan $7m Mitchell Schwartz $6m Allen Bailey $5.5m each Ron Parker, Travis Kelce $5m Eric Berry, Dustin Colquitt So $100m on their top 11 guys. This is a pretty normal breakdown, but some of those guys likely don't deserve those cap hits.
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Jun 5, 2017 18:06
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In comparison, here's the top 11 guys on the Broncos: $20m Von Miller $12m Demaryius Thomas $12m Aqib Talib $10m Chris Harris $9.5m Emmanuel Sanders $8.5m Ronald Leary $8m Derek Wolfe $7m Darian Stewart $6m TJ Ward $5m Donald Stephenson $4.5m Brandon Marshall (lb) So pretty much identical money as the Chiefs, but aside from missing a QB, you'd probably rather have this group of 11 yeah?
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Jun 5, 2017 18:09
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If you end up with an above average franchise starter then it does not matter how you got there or what you gave up to get it. So I'll say... Ryan Tannehill good?
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Jun 5, 2017 21:42
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wandler20 posted:Alex Smith good? Yeah, I mean if he's good enough that Andy Reid is riding him to the playoffs every year and not causing you to bomb out of them, then of course you're happy if he sits for two years or whatever.
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Jun 5, 2017 21:50
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The other moist rankings: 40: Vic Beasley LB, Falcons 39: Bobby Wagner LB, Seahawks 38: Fletcher Cox DT, Eagles 37: Aqib Talib CB, Broncos 36: Tyreek Hill WR, Chiefs 35: J.J. Watt DE, Texans 34: Kam Chancellor SS, Seahawks 33: Demarco Murray HB, Titans 32: Marcus Peters CB, Chiefs 31: Matthew Stafford QB, Lions
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Jun 6, 2017 17:40
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Waiting for a compile to finish so threw the top 100 list into a spreadsheet really quick: # of players 31-100 6 - Titans 5 - Seahawks 4 - Chiefs, Cowboys, Dolphins, Packers, Patriots 3 - Chargers, Eagles, Washington, Vikings 2 - Broncos, Buccaneers, Cardinals, Colts, Falcons, Giants, Raiders, Texans 1 - Bengals, Bills, Jaguars, Lions, Saints, Steelers By position: 1 Center 4 Guards 2 Tackles 8 Quarterbacks 5 Running backs 3 Tight Ends 9 Wide Receivers 9 Defensive Ends 7 Defensive Tackles 10 Linebackers 8 Cornerbacks 4 Safeties So my guess for the top 30: QB: Brady, Brees, Ryan, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Wilson, Carr, Dak RB: David Johnson, Ezekial Elliott, Le'Veon Bell, Le'Sean McCoy WR; Julio, Evans, Beckham, AJ Green TE: Gronk, Kelce T: Tyron Smith, Joe Thomas, Trent Williams C: Alex Mack Front seven guys: Khalil Mack, Luke Kuechly, Von Miller, Damon Harrison, Aaron Donald Secondary guys: Landon Collins, Eric Berry, Earl Thomas, Devin McCourty So... I'm over by two. I guess it's possible McCourty isn't on the list, but am I missing anyone? and who else isn't making it? There's no way they didn't vote Dak on this right?
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Jun 6, 2017 18:38
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Intruder posted:No Nuk in the top 30? I know he had a down year but surely he's still top 100 Yeah, there's a bunch of guys I was thinking of that I'd expect to be on a top 100 list, but are absent like Donald Penn or Baktiari at tackle, and I don't think they'll be in the top 30, so *shrug*.
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Jun 6, 2017 18:46
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kiimo posted:Is Dak elite? I definitely do not think so, but I was thinking of how the hype machine went last year, and how it normally works with Cowboys and I just have to presume... If he's not on the list, then players voted Mariota, Winston and Alex Smith over him, which is probably correct, but amazing.
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Jun 6, 2017 18:47
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The Jets may also have been holding onto guys hoping to trade them for future late round picks, and that just never materialized.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:03
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fsif posted:I mean, if you're going to tank anyway, then you might as well see what you have in your practice squad running backs. There is a point where if you just have too little talent you can't really evaluate your young players, so they might as well let Forte pad his career stats while throwing 150 passes to Quincy Enunwa and.... oh man, I forgot the Jets started the draft going safety, safety. At least ArDarius Stewart will get a lot of practice returning kickoffs?
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Jun 6, 2017 23:21
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weird Asian candy posted:Check out this take guys... https://twitter.com/Andy_Benoit/status/872466647075897344 Geno Smith Pros: Definitely won't be distracted by charity endeavors Cons: Loses locker room confrontations to random UDFA's.
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Jun 7, 2017 16:18
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drat russians hacking into our espn.
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Jun 7, 2017 16:29
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fsif posted:I don't normally care that much about pundit rankings, but Andy Benoit goes to great lengths to establish himself as a great watcher of film and he has so many hacky takes. I mean that entire list is hilarious, from Moore and Garoppolo on down, but my god, Geno Smith. Like how badly do you have to lie to yourself to argue for Geno over Kaepernick on or off the field?
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Jun 7, 2017 17:06
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Mariota wants some of that Wilson robot man cash https://twitter.com/JasonWolf/status/872275305502822400
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Jun 7, 2017 17:16
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https://twitter.com/Andy_Benoit/status/872540214526267392 Turns out Tebow loves when cops kill black kids.
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Jun 7, 2017 23:09
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Ehud posted:makes you think about what it takes to be the starter in front of such an elite QB talent Thank god Moore isn't on the Seahawks else Wilson's confidence would be destroyed.
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Jun 8, 2017 01:12
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:So what's the deal with Foles? Just can't escape pressure and has a tendency to send the ball sailing? Personally my suspicion is that Chip Kelly is a very good offensive coach and a poo poo awful GM.
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Jun 8, 2017 01:20
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Volkerball posted:That alone doesn't explain it. Foles year with better than Manning numbers is a crazy outlier no matter how you slice it. Sure, but I think it was just a serious of fortuitous circumstances in that Chip was an unknown that teams took a bit of time to adjust to, Foles got lucky on his 50/50 balls, and DeSean Jackson is a pretty good receiver. 2014, Foles got injured halfway through, but was worse without DeSean (and I think some other injuries?, I can't remember), but Mark Sanchez looked closer to an NFL player then he had in years. 2015 wasn't great for anyone involved, but he got an average starter year out of Bradford, then got about as much as you could get from a QB like Kaepernick in that utterly devoid offense the 49ers had last year. That 2013 Foles years was a crazy outlier, but I think he could've been like, I dunno, Matt Schaub good if Chip Kelly didn't go all Chip Kelly on the Eagles roster.
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Jun 8, 2017 01:32
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MrSargent posted:That table...I don't think it means what they think it means. The only people who have a better Passer Rating have thrown at best 15% of the passes that Kap threw. Even the cherry-picked stat they use is bad. Barnwell was proving Benoit's point wrong, yes.
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Jun 8, 2017 03:30
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:I laughed really hard at this thought, but not at you. It's funny how football really is a zero sum game. I'd say that Pats fans didn't get quite as much joy from the SB win as the Falcons did anguish, but then I remembered Saints fans, and there's where it all went.
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Grittybeard posted:This is what NFL Films used to do before they got their funding cut Yeah, a team could go 2-14 and they'd have a lead in that was like Building The Foundation for Victory and then have half the footage be from the two wins.
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Jun 8, 2017 16:20
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I wish football would go back to when it wasn't so political: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP0Dm2HgnJg
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Jun 8, 2017 19:13
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Yeah, I saw a training camp report the other day that had all the Jets QB's being really terrible against air, but didn't think much of it. But man, Hackenburg is probably just gonna get cut.
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Jun 8, 2017 22:22
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Not really the same scale but remember when Josh McDaniels traded next year's first to draft Alphonso Smith and then the Seahawks used that pick to draft Earl Thomas? Alphonso Smith got firesold to the Lions like a year or two later, and then he had just a horrific performance: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81c686a5/Patriots-vs-Lions-highlights
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Jun 8, 2017 22:37
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Edelman signed a 2 year $11m extension that gives him $9m guaranteed. So counting this year of his deal, 3 years, $15m. Or what Tavon Austin is making this year alone.
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Jun 8, 2017 23:11
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He's gonna have Griffey's brain tonic gigantism by training camp.
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BlindSite posted:5 with the pats 2 with the giants, what are the other ones? Looks like he's also wearing the two AFC Championship rings.
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iospace posted:Shh... don't tell me the password. I'm telling you the password It was 931 Because 
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Jun 10, 2017 05:28
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Bennett Bros posting Michael Bennett's hanging with the socialists:  while Martellus is showing off his ring with Tom: https://www.instagram.com/p/BVK2EumhQEj/
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Jun 11, 2017 00:05
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These are always weird to me because I'm like... who doesn't own a Brady jersey already who's going to buy one? Or Rodgers? or... oh hello there Kaepernick. Nice
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Jun 12, 2017 05:27
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Who would end up fatter if let to their own devices: Kelvin Benjamin or Eddie Lacy? The entire offensive line just annihilating a buffet while Kelvin stands outside with his face mournfully pressed up against the glass.
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Jun 12, 2017 16:37
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More NFL top 100 guys: Should probably swap Earl Thomas and Sherman there. 30: Earl Thomas, FS 29: Mike Evans, WR 28: Landon Collins, SS 27: LeSean McCoy, RB 26: Travis Kelce, TE 25: Joe Thomas, OT 24: Russell Wilson, QB 23: Rob Gronkowski, TE 22: Ben Roethlisberger, QB 21: Richard Sherman, CB
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Jun 13, 2017 03:17
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It's about as novel as calling two of your skill position players thunder and lightning.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:20
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Forever_Peace posted:If I had to put together a contender right now, Bell would be first choice. DJ 2nd. Bell has a significantly better supporting cast though, particularly the offensive line that fell apart for the Cards last year.
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Let's see Steelers 5962 yards, 399 points Cardinals 5868 yards, 418 points Bell - 1884 yards, 9 TD's DJ - 2118 yards, 20 TD's So Bell was 31.5% of the Steelers yards and DJ was 36% Of course Bell missed 4 games, which would extrapolate out to say, a high end of like 2506 yards and probably like 39-40% of the Steelers offense at most.
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