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Max Holloway is 25 years old
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2017 20:02 |
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# ¿ May 3, 2024 15:01 |
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Work Friend Keven posted:It was always weird to me that the UFC appeared to run directly through Dana White and that there wasn't the guy who'd say "ah yeah that all makes sense, that makes sense. Let me take this back to the boss and see what I can do. Ah they said no." it's also hosed up that they renegotiate all these big fights on a per fight basis. it's honestly a miracle that anything gets done. it's really one of the things that a union could improve is some kind of standardization of pay and stuff because it is all over the place and the overhead is stupidly huge
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 17:05 |
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mewse posted:Yeah I don't think DJ has seen even a hint of what Dana is capable of doing to gently caress over fighters the idea that he would just get rid of the flyweight division was pretty funny though
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 17:05 |
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1st AD posted:Yeah I can't remember how the points are structured, but you have to clear a certain threshold to get paid on points. I think Eddie Alvarez was the last one with details of his ppv points that got released: quote:A tiered share of pay-per-view revenue, starting at "$1 for each ‘buy' between 200,000 and 400,000 buys, $2 per buy between 400,000 and 600,000 buys, and $2.50 per buy over 600,000 buys."
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 17:47 |
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Skip My Posts posted:no dude he's right the UFC facebook didn't post any pictures about his streak until fight week. nobody could overcome that lack of promotion I feel like their marketing has been off a bit since the UFC got bought and they fired all those people but I could be wrong
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 17:53 |
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Bundt Cake posted:its a nonsense fight it's inspired some real effort posting out of keven so it's already a big win for everyone
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 18:01 |
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david carmichael posted:I think dj is great and I understand why he wants tj to prove he can make weight, but I don't understand what makes the UFC more evil than usual here The hilariously empty threat to close the division stuck out to me but otherwise I think you are right
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2017 14:36 |
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Veskit posted:No no no no no no no i've read this post several times and i have no clue what you are trying to say but im pretty sure it is stupid
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2017 22:39 |
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Skip My Posts posted:listening to tj on brett okamoto's espn podcast thing he sounds pretty sure that he can make the weight and is willing to give mm his purse or whatever bullshit he's demanding wish we would have heard of this about a page ago also if someone could break down how ppv points work again, i think that'd be helpful
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# ¿ Jun 7, 2017 17:28 |
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Zzulu posted:What's Mr.Leben doing these days? A true legend of the sport https://twitter.com/ChrisLebenMMA/status/782495060189257728 https://twitter.com/ChrisLebenMMA/status/872322183875395585
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 15:17 |
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According to a Dana White video on facebook right now, Conor is going to defend his belt later this year. Huh.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2017 00:10 |
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2 fat 4 my lambo posted:a chilling warning from WME to chuck liddell, for sure
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2017 20:33 |
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Triticum Guzzler posted:I'm doing similar research but there's so many caveats for this stuff. I've identified bacteria that upregulate expression of a gene that if deliberately overexpressed in mice turns them into endurance athletes, but it also increases the rate of fat cell differentiation This seems like a safe way of increasing athletic performance I think. Are there other side effects of increasing my poop effectiveness?
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2017 20:02 |
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Triticum Guzzler posted:You could get more fat or less fat, you could get healthier or become diabetic, your rear end could get stronger or become inflamed. rear end bacteria can affect pretty much everything but we have no way to define "healthy" and the methods we've been using for years might actually just be a proxy measure of whether you have diarrhea or not. It's a fuckin mess i now understand how/why you were discovering the power of poop as a young boy and dedicating your life to become a poo poo wizard
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2017 22:11 |
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Rigel posted:This probably won't come as a surprise, but Mark Hunt's lawsuit against the UFC is not going well. The worst part is that some lawyer is taking advantage of Mark and probably making a lot of money off litigating this ridiculous claim.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2017 13:35 |
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Triticum Guzzler posted:tonya evinger is the ginger woman who lost to gina carano, right? yeah. this fight is exactly what you think it is.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2017 12:25 |
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Scrapez posted:Is Mighty Mouse getting points or money based on the PPV profitability? If so, he should fight TJ. If not, he should fight a can. If he's making the same amount, there's no reason to take the risk. They offered him Ray Borg on Fox or FS1 (no points) and then they decided that fighting TJ would be a bigger fight and on a PPV (with points). He doesn't want to fight TJ: quote:Johnson said no. Johnson said he wants to preserve the integrity of the flyweight rankings and not fight someone who has never competed in the division. Dillashaw has never made 125 pounds and if he misses weight then the fight won’t be a title defense, so Johnson won’t be going for the record.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2017 23:00 |
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Tyree posted:This is omitting a lot of what DJ has said, which I am inclined to believe. What is being omitted except him complaining that they didn't market him enough? His Facebook post doesn't really say much more except that he felt like he was being bullied.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 00:32 |
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Snowman_McK posted:According to DJ, he wouldn't get PPV points, that was one of the reasons he turned it down. quote:The UFC did promise to give him pay-per-view points against Dillashaw. But Johnson doesn’t plan on backing down. He believes he’s doing the right thing for himself, the division and the sport, trying to make the rankings matter. quote:Dana and Sean have told me that they have no interest in marketing me or the smaller divisions, so when they say that I will make PPV money vs. Dillashaw, they leave out the fact that I have to hit certain numbers of buys, which will not be hit if they fail in marketing me like they have in my previous fights.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 03:20 |
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Rigel posted:Also he agreed to fight TJ, on the condition that he still gets paid if TJ fails to make weight and the fight is cancelled. Also TJ agreed these terms but I don't know legally if they stand up or what: quote:Asked about DJ's request/demand that he receive full pay and Dillashaw's purse in case weight is missed - TJ states he has no problem with this, is happy to include the clauses and he has no doubts about making the flyweight limit. Says the clause won't mean anything. Later in the interview TJ happily says he will personally pay Demetrious if he misses weight, "no problem". Snowman_McK posted:Still, doing it for performance based bonuses that are largely dependent on the employer are bullshit. That's true whether it's retail or professional fighting. Promising PPV points to a fighter you refuse to promote is essentially promising money you know you won't have to pay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-R2p6DdK8M
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 03:29 |
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Rigel posted:The UFC told DJ that if TJ failed to make weight, he'd fight Borg. So, they aren't confident enough in TJ's ability to make weight to offer a guarantee, and DJ didn't want to prepare to fight 2 opponents. Right, but there are some legal questions about a clause that says "if I don't make weight, my opponent gets all my money and I fight for free" so that is probably why they didn't try to make that guarantee anyway. Also if DJ wanted to make some real money, he'd agree to all that anyway and if TJ didn't make weight, they'd offer him Borg and he'd be like "nah" until they backed up a truck of money to his house.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 03:57 |
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# ¿ May 3, 2024 15:01 |
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Rigel posted:I don't see the confusion. If you fail to make weight, your opponent always has the right to decline the bout, and then you don't get paid poo poo. What DJ wanted was a guarantee that if TJ failed to make weight, as he suspected, then DJ would still get paid under his contract even if he refuses to fight at a catchweight. TJ is not entitled to poo poo if he fails to make weight, these catchweight bouts only happen when the opponent says "ok fine, damnit, I'll take the 20% bribe, lets fight". Things are different for DJ when he's looking at both a title fight and a record-breaking title defense hanging on TJ's ability to make 125 What DJ wants is both his and TJ's purse if TJ fails to make weight. What if TJ doesn't make weight, then doesn't want to fight? Without getting into compelling specific performance laws or legal consideration, the UFC is paying out for 2 fighters and getting 0 fights. Is the commission going to sanction a fight where only one party gets paid? Traditional combat sports contracts have a show and win reward to incentivize both sides to perform, and without either TJ could just tap out at 4:59 of round 1 and be no less richer, and it is the commission's duty to ensure that all contestants compete honestly and to the best of their skill and ability. Also the UFC is wary of adding a lot of this weird stuff to its existing contracts for one-off bouts because they want them to be scrutinized as little as possible.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2017 13:31 |