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FishBowlRobot posted:Could just be Dana talk, but on the Unfiltered podcast he claims that Vitor still has one more fight on his contract after this one. This would be hilarious, thought not surprising as Vitor is kind of dumb.
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MM is sort of right in most of his rant; but he doesn't draw enough to make PPV points. I also like Dana's tantrum and threatening to kill the whole division. Eat some more steak, lift more, and make 135 idiots, your division is gone.
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Jun 5, 2017 18:04
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Mighty Mouse is deathly afraid of TJ. Fighters already receive compensation for their opponent missing weight, isn't it 20%? Asking for his whole purse is LOL. He just wants to break the record in his tiny man division against the Borg because it's easy and still nobody will give a flying gently caress.
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Jun 6, 2017 15:45
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Charles Gnarwin posted:You only get a piece of the purse if the fight goes forward as a catch weight and DJ made it clear that he will only fight for the title. Gotcha. Well then work out a deal for 20% of what Dillashaw was supposed to make and waive the fight. Asking for the whole purse is ridiculous. Are we REALLY that concerned that TJ isn't going to make weight? Yeah he's never fought at 125, but TJ comes across as a disciplined dude, and its not like he's huge at 135. Dr. Abysmal posted:I did like how Dana tried to guilt trip him by saying he was stealing an opportunity from TJ like he should give a poo poo about that Yeah this is really dumb. I'd say its more of an opportunity for Mighty Mouse to prove himself against one of the best 135 lbs fighters in the world.
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Jun 6, 2017 16:30
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Veskit posted:Why is it so upsetting to people that DJ at this point wants to fight like for, you know... money? I really don't know what he's getting paid now compared to his "value", but there really aren't any REAL money fights for DJ that are going to draw a lot of attention and/or PPV buys. Even DJ vs TJ is at best a UFC on Fox headliner. Maybe throw it on a stacked card as a co-main so he can get the PPV points he wants.
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Jun 6, 2017 16:38
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I'm sorry but why the gently caress should anyone get PPV points with less than 100k buys
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Jun 6, 2017 17:01
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sportsgenius86 posted:Why should he get paid more for someone else drawing a bunch of people? Why do you think DC was so drat happy to be on a card with Brock Lesnar? Actually why was everyone on that main card happy as poo poo? Everybody makes money even if you aren't the main draw. This is the only way for DJ to make more money. He's not going to draw a PPV by himself, ever. I don't give a poo poo if you're the best fighter on the planet, if you don't bring in the money, how do we pay you fuckloads of money?
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sportsgenius86 posted:It's not the only way for Cormier to make more money though. Would he make more than normal on a card with Brock? Absolutely. But Cormier was on there to increase the total draw power of the show. He wasn't on there because he draws nothing and they wanted to stash him there to make bank in the name of fairness. Right, that's not what I saw saying. I'm saying there's nothing to be ashamed of being thrown on a card with a lot of attention, even if you aren't the main attraction. Yes, I am proving UFC's point that he does not draw on his own, but this is a way for him to make the money he is looking for while making everyone happy. Put him on a stacked card with Brock Lesnar as special guest announcer.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:55
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Rigel posted:As a defending champion, he gets 40k from Reebok per fight. Some of that 40k may be in the form of equipment and apparel. A semi truck full of Reebok sneakers and bandanas
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Jun 6, 2017 18:08
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DJ is ducking everyone not named Ray Borg because he's a coward twitch nerd
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Jun 20, 2017 21:39
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I agree with Dana White. Here's a trash can go draw 300k viewers on FS1 idiot.
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Tyree posted:This is omitting a lot of what DJ has said, which I am inclined to believe. What's the point? 100k is a very large chunk of change, especially for DJ. Not that I think it would hit 300k unless there was a really strong undercard. Honestly the best bet would be to have it as a co-main on a stacked card (MSG in November? Cody would probably be good to go by then though) so he can get a fuckload of PPV points. I really can't see DJ headlining a PPV ever again; there's nobody he could fight that would draw enough attention to warrant a main event.
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Jun 30, 2017 01:03
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DumbWhiteGuy posted:What DJ wants is both his and TJ's purse if TJ fails to make weight. That's just a stupid and unreasonable request; even if TJ did verbally agree to it. Also, TJ is a disciplined professional that I wouldn't worry about in the least about making 125. You know deep down DJ knows this too. I understand he wants to get paid more; but gently caress dude no one is going to watch you fight some guy again. It is what it is. He gets what he wants; break an absolutely pointless title record against create-a-fighter. No one will even remember his dumb record.
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Jun 30, 2017 14:18
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Marching Powder posted:you know what else is a stupid, unreasonable request? here, fight this guy who is neither a champion, nor in your division, and if he misses weight, fight this other guy. no we're not giving you anything extra. LOL, here fight a name that people know who is a former champion who WILL make weight! They were going to give him PPV points. Whether or not he would have actually made them would have depended on the PPV he was put on. I do agree the whole train for two fights thing was stupid. His reasons for ducking only hurt himself further.
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Marching Powder posted:nope. they just got done telling him that a superfight with cody wouldn't break the ppv threshhold, so fight ray borg and shut the gently caress up. so of course when a not champion from the cody division comes to call, i completely understand at least wanting an assurance that he can make weight. no? may as well fight ray borg. tj is not a draw. definitely not big enough to get dj over the line without some serious support on some unknown ppv. good decision imo. The one thing we agree on is that on their own, DJ vs Cody or DJ vs TJ wouldn't draw enough PPV buys. There is already an assurance to make weight: 20% of TJ's purse if he decides to proceed with the fight at a catch weight. I know he didn't want to do this because he couldn't break his precious record (LOL). It comes down to all he cares about is the record. You think you would you know, want to PROVE that you're the best pound-for-pound fighter by beating a former champion in the weight class above, even if its a couple pounds heavier. This in turn would help your brand A LOT more than fighting Ray loving Borg. But no worry about that precious title record.
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Jun 30, 2017 14:48
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Marching Powder posted:are you deliberately ignoring the part of the story where he was angling to fight the real, actual champion of the division above his next? or that immediately after this defense he intends to become a two division champ against a better fighter than tj? Nope, but that fight didn't materialize for whatever lovely reason the UFC gave him, or maybe that they had TJ vs Cody already planned. So why not take the next best thing when that fight fell through? After all this poo poo I don't see them giving him any sort of opportunity again so he can kiss that dream goodbye.
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Jun 30, 2017 14:57
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Tezcatlipoca posted:He wanted to. He tried to get a fight with Sergio Pettis who is a bigger name than Borg and can make weight. The UFC told him he was fighting Borg. Are you really bringing Sergio Pettis into this? Saying he's a bigger name than Ray Borg isn't saying anything at all; he's still a nobody in a nobody division. I also feel like they want to build Sergio up more instead of sacrificing him right away.
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Jun 30, 2017 15:13
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Marching Powder posted:well, he's ranked 3rd in the division in question, so, he is, but compared to tj dillashaw in the division in question, he absolutely is. Sorry man your video game bro is ducking to beat a record in the easiest fashion possible. He pretty much says it himself without using the word ducking.
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big money big clit posted:
Thales Leites would like to have a word with you
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who's ray borg
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big money big clit posted:It's probably the same because it won't hit the points threshold and nobody who gets beat up professionally is a coward. The endless cycle DJ would 100% make more money fighting TJ; whether is contractually or through a backdoor deal. It wasn't going to be the main of a PPV anyways. and yes its a coward move to duck somebody to fight somebody easier
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Jun 30, 2017 17:01
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big money big clit posted:Actually...he wouldn't. Or maybe he would. Who knows? We have basically no information about fighter pay beyond what But I'm going to choose to assume that Dana White, the guy who is full of poo poo every time he speaks, is still full of poo poo. Who gives a poo poo if it ever happened before? That's a poo poo argument. They are the match makers looking to make a higher profile fight because his division is essentially cleaned out. Scrapez posted:Oh the old "backdoor deal." Please elaborate on this sweet deal where Dana White showers MM with cash money out of the goodness of his heart. Yeah there's been multiple instances where fighters have been open about their purse not exactly being their pay; Cowboy has come forward on multiple occasions IIRC. Yes, DJ wants to make money, then loving fight somebody that's going to make you more money and/or help your brand.
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Scrapez posted:So since Cowboy got some extra money that means MM will too? I have a hard time believing that especially given the fact that Dana and the UFC aren't particularly fond of MM since he doesn't follow along like a yes man with their plans. Thanks for admitting he's ducking, that'll be all so have we heard anything on when Cody is supposed to return so TJ can finally get a fight? Auron fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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tesilential posted:Lot of MMA noobs in here today. Thanks for defining ducking with another great example of what a duck would be
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big money big clit posted:What's crazy is you calling other people MMA noobs (who still says this) while implying that Conor Mcgregor will ever defend a belt. But really, Conor would absolutely say Woodley hasn't earned his shot and demand a year off to play 1v1 vs Lebron on PPV and then fight Nate Diaz again on his return. Connor would duck Woodley because Woodley sucks and is a bore and nobody wants to see Woodley ever fight. Who wouldn't want to play LeBron 1v1 on PPV or fight Heavyweight contender Nate Diaz for the third time for a bajillion dollars.
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who's luke rockhold is he that idiot that bitches about middleweight being a mess but want to fight old guys and a heavyweight?
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Jun 30, 2017 19:04
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big money big clit posted:TJ can definitely make 125 because he's small, which is why even smaller guys like John Lineker and Ray Borg never struggle to make 125. TJ surrounds himself with professionals (Ludwig is questionable). Ray Borg is a guy (I think) who probably can't afford the best coaching and John Lineker is brazillian
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Lets stop talking about MM and start talking about relevant fighters and weight classes, this is getting tiresome. How about that WOMEN'S 125 lbs division?
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