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Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Starshark posted:

I see they're cutting back on sub-eds at the Arse as well.

They probably aren't wrong. It is normal for this type of critic to claim they are feminist and not a feminist at the same time. Obvious they have a pretty narrow idea abut what feminism entails, and downplays or questions anything that isn't clear-cut legal discrimination. Then they use their position as the rational, sceptical feminist to attack the bad, radical feminists. You can't really argue that women should have less rights, or have to suffer unduly because of their gender. So its easier to adopt a progressive label and claim that the actual feminists have gone to far, corrupted it, fighting against their interests etc.

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Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

snoremac posted:

We've created a generation (or more) of man-children through shunning and shaming traditional masculinity. And we wonder why we're in this predicament. It's all very pathetic.

At least they are blaming themselves and not the millennials (although I don't know if they realise it).

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Anidav posted:

Foxtel's legal crusade against online piracy has intensified, with the company applying to add 127 additional URLs to its proposed block list in Federal Court. The new sites under the ban hammer include YesMovies, Vumoo, LosMovies, CartoonHD, Project Free TV 1, Torlock and 1337x. Here is the full list.

Foxtel is finally going to make me get a subscription... to a VPN.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Yes, lets arm the riot squad with full automatic capable assault rifles with a range of 300 metres. This is a thing we need to counteract terrorism performed by a single or few individuals, in pedestrian heavy, confined spaces. What are they expecting, an armed insurrection?

Uhh, the gun has assault in the name and the terrorists are assaulting us, so... Tough on terrorism???

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Those rounds weren't an option in my Counter-Strike 1.4 training.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

I've spent the day cleaning the dust off my guillotine.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Kommando posted:

Shorten is thinking of emulating the UK labour platform and is copping poo poo from his own party.

Wasn't he basically doing a Bill Shorten version of it last election? I recall the platform largely being not standing for cuts to healthcare, education, and uhhh *checks notes*

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

foolish_fool posted:

Sure corbyn didn't lose by as much as expected but he still lost, it clearly wasn't inspiring enough to enough people despite the monstrosity and incompetence of the Tories. It makes sense to me that labor would be cautious given that the electorate is so bonkers as to have elected Abbott then Turnbull.

There are only a few extreme scenarios where voters move wholesale from one party to another, otherwise the best you can do is convince people in sizeable 1-5% chunks. One scenario is an existential crisis where a party accomplishes or fails their stated reasons for existing (such as UKIP and Brexit). A party can also betray their supporters by reversing a major policy or following through with a disastrous implementation (Aus Democrats with GST, Liberal Democrats with tuition fees/welfare cuts...). And there is also severe infighting, a loss of executive leadership and faith in the party (which often follows from the previous problems).

Since neither of those things happened with the Conservatives (they would have had to campaign on staying in the EU for example), the best Labour could have hoped for is a large swing (say 5%). While their policies were terrible and poorly messaged, they were not out of the exceptionally out of the ordinary for a conservative government. And while the campaigning was poor, the party was not actively sabotaging May's work. In effect they were always going to keep their core supporters, and many people of the people who lean Conservative.

The problem with Labour was that they accrued too many 1-5% swings away from the party, which meant they could never peel away enough people with bad policies like fox hunting and reverse mortgages to pay for healthcare. Half of a large crowd is still a moderately sized crowd. From a politician's perspective you look at Labours performance as being the fourth best ever in UK history. A 10% swing is essentially what you would get from running two very good election campaigns. So you can see why a politician might be interested in getting two good elections for the price of one. Even if you want to say the Conservatives threw away the election (-5%), it still leaves Labour as having run a very good campaign when everyone said they were garbage losers and the executive were lining up to undermine and knife the leader. So there is still a reason to want to learn what they done right, and try to emulate it. There's a reason why the traitors are crawling back to kiss the ring, and the Conservatives are sharpening the knives. Elections are judged by politicians on performance, and not who came first. Coming first is also important, but politicians are more interested in getting and keeping jobs (seats). The biggest tears are coming from the loser Clegg, not Labour.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Thanks pissflaps... wait a minute there are pissflii???

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Bogan King posted:

It's time for some Game Theory™

May leaned left as a deliberate plan to get a minority government with the DUP pushing them across the line to cull the unbelievers in Free Market Austerity. This means she now can rule from a purer conservative position rather than dealing with factional bullshit in her own party. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Compromised leftist policy: Fox hunting

True conservative policy: Poor hunting

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Don Dongington posted:

I would be. There's literally nobody else and it's loving hilarious.

You and I both know its going to be Abbott.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

You Am I posted:

I meant about us three. I can't remember anyone else in this thread posting back in the LF days. Most of them have either left SA or burnt out.

The Nandos chat was counter-revolutionary and disgraceful by today's posting standard.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Don Dongington posted:

Man but how fuckin good is that chicken

Can't believe my fellow comrades bought into the hype.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Kafka Syrup posted:

Surely Australian politics isn't THAT corrupt... Surely... surely...

Helicopter rides, government entitlement rorts, bags of cash, head of the ATO caught in a massive tax rort...
Failing a business in such a way to get around media ownership laws??? :shrug:

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

TF2 HAT MINING RIG posted:

Do people really buy into all this created jobs fluff? I'd love to think a guy stuck in a terrible, low paying job who barely gets enough hours to feed his family is going to see these figues and be impressed.

Yes. But if the UK has taught us anything, you can only lie about it so much before people stop believing you.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Sir. This is a Nandos.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Hobo Erotica posted:

I get the joke and all but you can see how juvenile this is, right?

So is there any debate or discussion in D&D these days? Or the public shaming of women with opinions is fine even if the reasons don't really hold up to the slightest scrutiny and lol if you actually give them any scrutiny?

I doubt many posters are plugged in enough to really have much of an opinion about it. Someone was mean, and some internet posters were also mean back... Is there something more to this, or is this another 'so much for the tolerant left' complaint?

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Is Hobo the poster who was down with refugees building and living in their own shanty town in remote WA? Or Am I getting them mixed up with another old poster with terrible opinions?

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

ahh yes Bolt, playing with words. There is a lot to explore in calling an Asian person yellow.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Conservatives complain about Waleed Aly because he is Muslim. But if every Muslim was Waleed Aly, would conservatives still complain about Muslims?

:thunk:

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

That's a salty take.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

It already is :ssh:

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Kafka Syrup posted:

but any efforts to support victims, resolve disputes or punish perpetrators of abuse were torpedoed by members who didn't want public backlash.

Have a look at the Socialist Workers Party in the UK if you want an idea as to how it will go down. Hopefully it won't because the Greens are a bigger organisation with more to lose if they ignore it, but the organisational structure will make reform very difficult.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

ziggurat posted:

answer me dammit, these people are dying

go away hobo.

edit: Actually, apologies hobo.

Tokamak fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Jun 20, 2017

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

ziggurat posted:

when i say this in american threads i get banned

you're lucky that ASIO is incompetent.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Your K:D ratio is going to be bad if you solely target the top of the leaderboard.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

https://twitter.com/dril/status/922321981

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Communism is good my friend.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Bogan King posted:

You know who is a good teacher. Mark Latham, he's great at teaching how the world really works. Genuine salt of the Earth Western Sydney man.



Still making Malthusian growth arguments in 2017.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Thread hasn't been this spicy in quite a while. I appreciate the change in pace from the mind-numbing steady drip of bad things our government is doing.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

It is a reading test, which is why all of the answers are samey. Still ridiculous you'd choose coal's role in climate change as reading material.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

You Am I posted:

They seem to be the worst of the state based Labor governments. Continuing the coal path as if they were the LNP, giving zero fucks about the reef. Have they overturned any of the previous LNP governments cuts like to women's health services?

I can't tell the difference between Labor and LNP in NSW. They are a couple of faceless centrists who only care about businesses and property developers, with a dash of lip service to roads and public transport.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

freebooter posted:

It's been fascinating to note - especially since I was overseas for most of 2014/15 - how quickly the narrative shifted from "there is no bubble, houses are affordable, you just have to work hard," to "OK there is a bubble but it's going to level off or deflate." I'm no economist, so genuine question: has there ever been a historical case of a bubble easing off rather than bursting?

Thread has been saying that it is going to level off and deflate for over five years, and it is still growing. So by using my magical power of internet deduction, the bubble will actually explode big time.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Australian Labour Party.

Comrade

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

That is a nice, strong and stable looking Cabinet.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004


The biohacker type of people who embrace the dark cyberpunk future are dumb as hell. Why yes, I'm all about the brands and being surveilled.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

I'd join the NSW Greens if they need more people to fight this bullshit. It's me, the entryist.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Recoome posted:

Wait sorry did Rhiannon disagree or was she bound by the NSW Greens decision. I'm really confused now

Probably both, which is why they are so pissed off by it. If it was just her or just the party they could spin this far more positively.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

You Am I posted:

All parties, even the Federal Politicians from NSW, are bad.

I think the NSW Greens are a reasonable reaction to the terrible politics of NSW. If you've lived here for most of your life, you too will want to go full communism now.

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Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

snoremac posted:

Convicted racist upset there are too many Aborigines

My dumb opinion can be explained by the third sentence, but I will keep on writing my dumb opinion because I'm dumb.

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