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Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

CaptainBtaksDad posted:

Most are nice. But a sizeable percentage are sullen and rude despite having an easy as gently caress job.

Let me guess you are a computer janitor.

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Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.
I worked at a retail pharmacy where we did not officially have public restrooms but, if you thought the customer was okay you could let them use it as long as you escorted them. We also had an understanding that men cleaned then men's room and women cleaned the women's room. I was the only man that worked in the store and was out on a long weekend when someone decided to let a customer use the men's restroom. I come back to a clogged toilet, flooded bathroom and poo poo strewn over all of the walls. This mess had clearly been left for days. My manager comes to me and we have this conversation:

:downs: I need you to clean the men's restroom.
:effort: No.
:downs: Men clean the men's restroom so you're doing it or we're going to have to have a serious conversation.
:effort: Still no, whoever let the shitter in cleans the mess.

My manager proceeds to dramatically march back to the stock room and starts to rant about teamwork, corporate buzzword bullshit and the needs of the businesss. I tuned everything out until I got threatened with being fired. I interupted the rant and said "I don't care I am not cleaning up poo poo for near min wage." My manager gets red in the face and storms out so I go back to work. I get a write up for teamwork and they start loving with my hours so I put my two weeks in before a holiday I want to enjoy which gets another rant about the needs of the business and how could I.

Azuth0667 fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Jun 27, 2017

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

SpacePig posted:

I always enjoy this type of poo poo. They almost go out of your way to treat you like garbage, and then are surprised that you would quit without considering that it might put them out. That you even gave them 2 weeks after that is honestly more than most would've done.

Worst part is I had to have continued contact with that manager while I was in grad school as that location was the only one that could get a prescription I needed. Every time I'd go in there that fucker would rush up to give a faux happy greeting and try to nose into what I was doing, how I was doing, why was I here? This was the only place I could go so I had to play nice and without fail every time this manager got the idea that I was doing way better now that I was away from this terrible place they would get mad then storm off. I don't get it :confused:.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Fried Watermelon posted:

Retail won't exist next generation

I cite this as proof god exists :catholic:.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Glenn Quebec posted:

Still lolling at the retail goons defending the stupid practice of carding someone clearly over 30. Never wonder why you have barely any autonomy or decision making in your roles.

I carded everyone when I was a dumb 16 year old because there was no way I was getting fined, 2 months worth of pay checks, just because some angry geezer wanted their cigarettes or booze a little bit faster. Is it really that hard to maintain a state ID? You had to drive to this store anyway so you should have a driver's license on you.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Starman Super DX posted:

one of the things that really gets me, moreso for my own strict state than anything else, is why do people bother storing their IDs in those hard-to-extract-from transparent sleeves in their wallets? who are they just flashing their IDs at ESPECIALLY if they're older and aren't getting carded anyway and any cop is just going to ask them to take it out.

The thing that got me the most was the size of the fines we'd get. If the store hosed up some big health code thing (which was a regular thing to happen) it'd get a fine that might cost it 10,000$ which is less than a day's worth of profit but, if I hosed up selling someone cigarettes I lost 2 months of pay. What the gently caress?

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Starman Super DX posted:

I once had ice cream at a knock-off of some kind that I think was literally called "Marble Slab". The ice cream was good, but it's obviously not worth the price just for the "atmosphere".

I don't get this either. Half the retail training I sat through emphasized that the reason the customer was coming was for the store's "atmosphere" and "shopping experience." :laffo: to that, the only reason people are coming there are because its either the closest thing or the cheapest thing and rarely its both. Most retail places smell like a mix of body odor and dirty diapers so who in their right mind pays for that kind of "atmosphere?"

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

spacetoaster posted:

So I've got a question about tipping. I always tip in cash (20%, if it's 70 dollars he/she gets 14 bucks, or so) because I heard somewhere, sometime, that places will take up all the tips and not give all of it back to the employee.

Is that true?

Am I really helping a person out by giving them a cash tip (and giving them the option of whether to turn it in or not)?

Or is this just a dumb urban legend I stupidly believed?

Yes its true I drove for a franchise that used to do that to make it "fair" for the kitchen staff who were paid more than us, didn't have to pay for gas/repairs/insurance, and didn't have to clean. It turned out these dudes were just taking the tips for themselves but, they were good at keeping the crab bucket mentality going so we never figured it out. The boss was a sovcit and didn't believe in taxes so that got reported to the IRS and half a year into my next job the IRS shut that business down and took everything.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

WTF? Were you using your personal vehicle and not the company's?

Yeah this has been how it is everwhere I've been for pizza delivery.

E: USA.

Azuth0667 fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Jun 30, 2017

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Barudak posted:

I believe it depends on the state, but typicaly its illegal to take the tip and give it to anyone but the server (gently caress you, back of the house). Obviously, since most restaurants are in poor shape owners/managers do whatever they can and commit crimes constantly to take your money away from the other employees.

The only actual solutions are the death of the capitalist system which, hahahaha, the US unfucks labor laws regarding this which, hahahaha, or servers as a job is replaced by machines and now ive made myself sad.

The machine thing is happening and it sucks. I get stuck going out to olive garden instead of the awesome family run italian place near me because my family are suspicious and dumb when it comes to food. Olive garden is attempting to phase out servers with lovely almost tablet-kiosk hybrid things they call the ziosk. The ziosk fucks up pretty much all the time and something to do with the light from them triggers a migraine for me so these things are absolutely awful for me. I can't imagine they're any good for the servers either since what kind of service gets conveyed through an irritating screen constantly advertising games too lovely for the applestore to you?

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

fits my needs posted:

Why don't any of you extremely abused retail workers ever give a call to your local EEOC?

I mean it probably takes about as much effort as posting 10 paragraphs about how rude it was for someone to tip you 15% instead of the 25% you are entitled to?

I have before as a grocery store employee and radioshack employee it did nothing.

E:

Detective No. 27 posted:

Couldn't you just fill in "Anonymous" in the name field?

No and you need to provide more than just a name.

Azuth0667 fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Jul 1, 2017

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Thin Privilege posted:

Yeah rich people are cheap as gently caress, and poor people give good tips. It makes me hate rich people. You are wearing designer pajama pants and live in a mansion/super fancy apartment, but tip me $1.00 on your $50 order. Thanks a lot rear end in a top hat. Sometimes there's a rare one that gives a huge tip, but that's most likely because they were poor prior to becoming rich.

Ninja edit: missed a page ah gently caress 2 pages, point still stands though, gently caress rich people for being cheap

This was also my experience delivering pizzas. Deliver to the house across the street from the crackhouse, 20$ tip. Make same cost deliver to the country club, 1$ tip. This happenend often enough I started making country club the last location I would stop which used to cause so many customer tantrums.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.
People earlier in the thread were wondering why Quiznos closed and I can answer that as I was a Quiznos drone for a while. The answer is piss poor management.

I worked for an owner that had several franchises and he did not hire the best people. He hired a night manager that did nothing but smoke weed. I mean literally nothing too as this guy would out right ignore customers while he was in the walk-in cooler getting baked. Night manager was not the most terrible management we had though. The worst management was the day manager. Day manager made even poorer choices as he racked up 3 DUIs in a nearby state and couldn't get a drivers' license. This was of course not his fault and the government shouldn't have any say in what he does on his own time. Day manager also chose to rent a crappy plastic shed as a home for 400$/month, this was in 2003-2004ish, instead of renting a decent 1 bedroom for the same amount. Somehow day manager bought a beat up truck and decided to move into the truck which was conveniently parked behind the store. Day manager made sure to lord all these achievements over us lowly drones who were living in mommy and daddies houses like losers. For context most of us were either highschool students or fresh highschool graduates. Day manager would constantly complain that he was better than this poo poo and he should be back working in the microchip factory making random doodads for 20$/hr. That was also his excuse why he would be sitting in the back doing nothing while the rest of us had to scramble to make up for night manager and do day manager's job. Day manager also had a meth problem and when he decided to use it was best to find a reason to call out or get the gently caress out because day manager would be out to make your life a living hell. It was bad enough one of my co-workers poo poo themselves to get out of having to work with day manager. The best you could hope for when day manager was using was that he would be enthralled by the computer chair in the back and sit there spinning around on it for hours. Top this all off with day manager always having to be right about everything no matter what it is, keep this part in mind.

We were having a busy day at the shopping center location and had done over 10,000$ in sandwiches in 2 hours. It's busy enough the owner called us and is shipping in meat from other locations as we'd nearly run out. We had a group of cyclists come in and they're all pretty pleasant, no coupons, no creeping on any of the girls I was working with, and no loving up the bathroom. The last guy sees we're out of chicken so he orders a veggie sandwich and wants every vegetable we have on it. So I toss everything on it and get ready to wrap it only for day manager to stop me and start telling me I'm doing it wrong and haven't put all the veggies on this sandwich. I'm confused at this point because everything in the veggie table is on the sandwich. Day manager slaps bacon on the sandwich and passes it along to the girl running the register. The customer, myself and my coworker on the register all look at each other with confused looks until the customer states that there's a mistake that the bacon shouldn't be on the sandwich as they wanted a veggie. Day manager immediately starts in on how its a little known fact that bacon is actually a vegetable as he heard it from a national geographic show that it came from some kind of tree. The customer laughed a bit and I think he thought it was a joke but, it soon became clear to him that day manager was serious. All humor drained from the customers face and he sternly asked day manager to remove the bacon. This didn't sit well with day manager because day manager HAS to be right at all times. Day manager proceeds to argue with this customer for 15 minutes which pisses the customer off enough that he decides he doesn't want the sandwich. This throws day manager into rage and day manager tosses the sandwich at the wall behind the counter having it splatter everywhere. Day manager starts screaming at the top of his lungs at us to clean up this mess while a packed dining room stares on in a mix of horror and amusement. It's about this time I decided to call the owner and report what happened which didn't go over well with day manager and was pointless because the owner didn't believe me.

Those two managers cost that store so much money it negated the profit of one of their locations.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

The Walrus posted:

no way buddy. thats like 12 sandwiches a minute. get out of here with that crazy talk.

Yeah way, we did a lot of business.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

The Walrus posted:

I don't believe you could do an average of 12 sanwiches a minute all shift without at least 15 people working and theres no quiznos that can fit 15 people in it. :colbert:

I do not care if a goonlord that is probably an overweight computer janitor does not believe me. There's a complementary pepper bar if you like, have nice day and enjoy your sandwich.

Azuth0667 fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Jul 7, 2017

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

The Walrus posted:

I am skinny and attractive and work in retail head office. I've worked food service for years. Not sure why that has anything to do with anything but you were'n't making 12 sandwiches a minute! how many toasters did you have? isn't it at least like 30 seconds in the toaster? That means even with 12 people working (which quiznos never have), you have only 30 seconds per person per sandwich to take the order, make the sandwich, and take payment. and thats assuming you have 12 toasters, which again there's no way you had!

I was mostly just messing with you but your extreme defensiveness indicates you have something to hide. my time working with lp as an assistant store manager has given me this kind of intuition.

:laffo: You have no idea what you're talking about but, keep :goonsay:.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

fits my needs posted:

Are a lot of retail workers nowadays possibly autistic?

No, a lot are depressed, angry and cynical :smith:.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Starman Super DX posted:

Show of hands, who here is not skinny and attractive?

No one? Well then, we won't have to worry about the uggos bothering us here, will we, gents? :smug:

Raises hand.

I am a filthy refugee from retail. Also so were most of my coworkers only they didn't know it because they were drunk/high 99% of the time.

Traxis posted:

Nobody wants to admit they are fat and ugly because if they do Jastiger will start sending them creepy PMs

:bigtran:

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

The Walrus posted:

I'm not the one who was making it about appearance, I thought that was kind of weird, he was very defensive about sandwiches, I just corrected the guy

Pics or its not true.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Sitting Here posted:

since we're all sharing among friends...im deathfat and my face has been used as an aid to induce vomiting

You should always haggle with hotels BTW. Especially boutique hotels staffed by goons who want to go back to shitposting. They will want you to stop talking ASAP, so you can usually get them to knock off 20 or 30 bucks from the rate.

I assume this means places other than Best Western and Holiday Inn?

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

VideoTapir posted:

Question for shopping-cart-having retail veterans:

When shopping cart wheels lock up halfway across the parking lot, and customers abandon them where they stand, do you hate them for it; or do you just blame it on your masters?

What if I hurl the thing before I abandon it?

When I worked at a grocery store I loved those. It could take 15 minutes to gather all of those up as we had a huge parking lot so it was an easy way to pass the time. It was an excuse for me to not be inside the store dealing with dumb poo poo. Instead I got to walk around and listen to music for a hour unless I could convince people to give me their shifts. People usually would because my store was full of drunks and no one wants to push carts while hung over. I got a really good tan doing that and didn't have a whole lot to do unless it was senior day or a Sunday after one of the masses got out.

Funniest things that happened were:

Bees swarming into a bush in the literal front of the store and stinging the poo poo out of the rear end in a top hat manager everyone hated.

Customers flagging me down to be a witness to the damage a cart that was pushed by another customer did to their car only to lose their poo poo when I would tell them no.

Customers getting mad I refused to give them carts that had been tied together with rope. The store was cheap and instead of ordering a belt from corporate they decided to save a whole 2 dollars and store used a 100ft rope.

Customers getting throwing tantrums and literally items when I pass them by as I'm moving carts instead of helping to load. Store policy was to get your carts into the bay and out of the parking lot if you had a load tied up because in the past some drunk idiot had plowed right through a train of them.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Glenn Quebec posted:

Earnestly, if any of you are merely working in retail without going to night school or getting training in something else. I beg you to start. If you live in an area where there is nothing but retail as an industry - move.

This is one of the shittiest poo poo advices. Moving costs a fuckload of money which is something retail employees don't have.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Glenn Quebec posted:

Oh yeah I was definitely suggesting that it's mutually exclusive.

Really after what I said, that's what you think? That I thought that people weren't trying to better themselves? I was imploring that if you aren't bettering yourself that you should start.

And I'm the idiot.

Should we explain it using a train analogy so you can understand it?

I went from retail to academia to industry. There's now way in hell it would have happened had I not got every scholarship I applied for and had familial support. Top that off with retail's spotty hours and lovely pay. Not everyone gets those advantages and they end up stuck in retail.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Glenn Quebec posted:

Nah, I get it. It's literally impossible for everyone and the stars aligned for you and me.

No, you clearly don't get it so I'll try saying it a different way.

Thing's have changed and asinine :smug:ing at people is going to get you mocked.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Glenn Quebec posted:

Sure. I'm a retard, or press the "?" to see that I've enjoyed trolling this thread on and off.

Its the first one since you're a terrible troll.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

The Great Autismo! posted:

it's much easier to blame society and everyone else around you than it is to have any type of self-reflection and develop a plan to improve your own life

what do I know I'm a white cis male bathing in privilege as I go about my daily life

Amizing name/post combo.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Infidel Castro posted:

She claimed he was cursing at her and thus constitute a threat or something along that line. These people were the embodiment of white trash and I could never figure out how they could afford to live in one of the wealthier suburbs.

This, I have no idea how those people managed to get into the country club but, its full of them.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

EugeneJ posted:

Why would you think MBA's are high class people

Good point.

The one rich person house that kept ordering from us looked like a garbage truck dumped its load in the front yard. I did my usual route delivering to the country club last because they weren't going to tip well anyway and got a stern lecture from one of them. This guy staggers to the door to get his pizza while wearing a stained torn up wife beater that smelled like a combination of liquid pig poo poo and axe body spray. He went into a rant about how he paid good money for this pizza, demands high quality service and how dare it take this long to arrive. I started to leave after he signed the receipt and it was clear I wasn't getting a tip. This broke something in the guy's brain because his rant started getting louder and more incoherent. I started getting into my car to leave and the guy throws his pizza into the middle of his yard.

I leave and go back to the store where the manager is glaring at me and on the phone. Angry stinky man was on the phone screaming at the manager now. The manager puts the phone on mute and starts yelling over this. Sometime in the middle of the manager's theatrics he called the customer a whole bunch of rude names and the phone goes quiet. The manager notices and stops shouting to pick up the phone. It turns out the manager is an idiot and can't figure out how to use a two line phone, it wasn't on mute and the customer heard everything. The manager panicked and tried to calm the customer. I stood there and got to watch this stupid manager beg and plead with this customer for a good 15 minutes and it was hilarious.

Azuth0667 fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Jul 31, 2017

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Rutibex posted:

$60 will buy you a bus ticket almost anywhere

You forgot some things:

Security deposit,
Key money,
Application fee,
Cost to move your stuff or acquire stuff,
Deposits for utilities if you have no/bad credit,
First months rent before you're on payroll,
Enough savings to get by for 4-6 weeks without pay,
Work materials.

Aren't you from academia too? You shouldn't be this dumb.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.
Here's a great high paying seasonal opportunity:



:colbert:

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.
You know what lyft is right?

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

spacetoaster posted:

False. Welfare isn't a job and queens aren't allowed in the military. :colbert:

False, one got taken out of Ft. Drum for running a prostitution ring.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

The Great Autismo! posted:

ffs is anyone able to have a conversation with even a semblance of nuance

Only if the rest of the dumb dumbs hiding behind the "I'm trolling" defense drop the facade. Also its probably going to be unfunny and boring so it should go in D&D.

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Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Fried Watermelon posted:

I had a dream about retail last night. It took place in a Radio Shack that also sold lumber for some reason. Argued with a customer about a bridge he was making after he cut the line.

10 years out of retail and I still get dragged back in

Something dumb like this almost happened, radioshack wanted to carry a special kind of drywall for "audiophiles." It was wo stupid even corporate realised it was a bad idea.

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