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Casual fans do. Conor doesn't, but he'd probably still train boxing if the fight if the fight got made instead of just sitting on his rear end.
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Wazzu posted:Eh, I wouldn't look at this too seriously. They're just playing with distance and angles more than trying to punch each other, even looks like Conor is allowing the slow punches towards him to see what it will look like. One thing that stood out to me is that when he can't kick, Conor's footwork gets exposed. Well, not exposed, but shown as not adapted for boxing. If he could throw kicks, all the constant stepping around and putting feet close together would give him some options instead of just making him hittable.
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Jun 14, 2017 10:33
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It's the right marketing play, right? This far out, they can fill the date with whatever they want if the McGregor fight doesn't materialize.
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Jun 14, 2017 21:25
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Jerusalem posted:UFC tries its hardest, but nobody can quite deliver a freakshow trainwreck like boxing That was in Bellator. If you open it up to MMA...
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Jun 14, 2017 22:59
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5 RING SHRIMP posted:I just want more than 10 weeks of poo poo talking promos That's really what you're paying for with the PPV buy.
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Jun 14, 2017 23:12
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The Ninth Layer posted:Swap Mayweather for Pacquiao. Does this fight get more competitive, or less? More, I think. Manny's a bit smaller and can get hit coming in. I think Floyd rests on a realm above that.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:11
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Starting from boxing, what's the minimum ruleset modification where Conor has a decent shot at winning? Unlimited clinching and hitting from the clinch? This would include all manner of neck ties.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:12
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Jack B Nimble posted:Or am I overestimating how much stand up clinch work from mma translates to boxing? Yeah -- clinches get broken up in boxing, and Floyd has a lifetime of mastering what can be done before the ref breaks it up, as well as what can be done where the ref can't see. He can take that 1-2 seconds and maximize his advantage. Snowman_McK posted:I was just remembering a quote from Holyfield where he said 'Tyson tried to box me, and that was my strength' and I didn't fully understand what else it could be for a boxer. Would anyone like to try to explain that? Or is the answer B. CTE? Here, "tried to box" means being clean defensively and outscoring your opponent as a primary goal as opposed to trying to hurt him or wear him out. There's different ways to approach the fight in boxing, same as MMA. Some people prefer (or evolve toward) brawling and preventing their opponent getting organized with their tactics. If you try to box, it means you're gonna stay disciplined, stay alert on defense, and economize your shots instead of willingly trading punches.
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Jun 16, 2017 02:41
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Wow, Brendan Schaub's podcast has a lot more reach than I thought.
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Jun 16, 2017 04:20
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Bovada also giving +130 for Floyd by decision.
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Jun 16, 2017 05:49
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Monday Bandele posted:Can't believe is this a 12 rounder, elite prospects don't fight 12 rounders until after at least ten pro bouts. Learning how to pace a fight is crucial.
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Jun 17, 2017 00:52
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Sound posted:getting f-f-f-hosed up in the ring will continue to get hosed up IRL as well Kind of a specious comparison -- as far as the brain is concerned, fighting is real life. With any ref they'd care to use for the McGregor/Mayweather fight, that would have been 3 knockdowns and done.
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Jun 19, 2017 17:07
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Work Friend Keven posted:WEll last time I checked floyd is a boxer so no, he's broke and owes 19 million dollars to the IRS. The Secret means Conor's pictured this for himself and has already taken appropriate action.
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Jun 20, 2017 04:18
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Any of you boxing posters Irish? I need you to post some Irish boxers who speak better or worse Irish Gaelic than Conor's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQMGkw52-Lo
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Jun 23, 2017 04:00
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Or Conor dives in the right round to secure that bet?
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Jun 23, 2017 05:11
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Jack B Nimble posted:Holy poo poo he is! 18W 3L! This guy fought Ken Norton?? There's a saying. Hmmm, how does it go? Ah yes - most people don't know poo poo about boxing.
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Jun 23, 2017 20:53
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Southpaugh posted:Everybody in Dublin is hilariously racist against Brazillians though. Are there a lot of Brazilians in Ireland? Or it is coming from Conor's shittalk. Genuinely curious.
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Jun 26, 2017 18:47
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How much can you get away with feints that would be illegal strikes if they landed? Like faking a teep or knee.
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Jun 27, 2017 18:12
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big money big clit posted:The guy who has spent his entire MMA career punishing dudes from the outside with his long left hand and looking for counter opportunities probably isn't going to turn into a mauler like Hatton who spend most of his career trying to get right on top of the guys he fought. Ricky Hatton has shorter arms than Frankie Edgar. In the ring with Mayweather, Conor will be extremely tentative as soon as Floyd lands a counter. Floyd will be able to land at will after that. He won't fight like a boxer mostly because he won't be able to generate offense that Floyd needs to care about.
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Jun 27, 2017 19:58
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Jack B Nimble posted:Ok so I have never seen Conner fight, only vaguely knew he was thought to be a big puncher, and assumed he would be aggressive. I...don't know poo poo about boxing? He has really long arms in his weight class in MMA, so he half steps towards you, throws a lot of distraction kicks and feints, darts out, hand fights at punching range, generally gets you frustrated and looking to land. He starts throwing straight punches when you're just inside his range but you might not be able to land clean. He's pretty accurate (in MMA), so once he gets his rhythm, he can really put on damage.
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Jun 27, 2017 20:56
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Bluedeanie posted:All of that is true and none of that tells us anything about how he will look in boxing rules. Agreed, and maybe I should have peppered "in MMA" more in my post.
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Jun 27, 2017 21:16
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Rubellavator posted:The only chance for McGregor boils down to hoping that Floyd has aged a decade in the last 2 years. I would put Floyd in the Bhop school of defensive genius, and going by that yardstick, would need to age him 2 decades.
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Jun 28, 2017 03:01
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Snowman_McK posted:Is there an equivalent in boxing to 'failure to stand from butt scoot?' I remember somebody getting DQ'd against Tyson because they would not stop clinching him. Then again, the alternative was getting punched by Mike Tyson. Maybe ducking and intentionally getting tangled under the ropes. Or if your John Ruiz, clinching forever.
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Jun 28, 2017 05:36
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If Conor leans back and takes a punch on the shoulder, that's a moral and immediate victory for him. If.
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Jun 29, 2017 03:35
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Spy in Conor's camp sees him practicing leg kicks.
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Jun 29, 2017 16:36
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Marching Powder posted:Lol who wrote this? So glad Fedor fan guy found a new star to latch onto.
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Jul 1, 2017 05:43
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The longer Conor's arms are, the more time it'll take to throw out a punch and thus to let Floyd slip it and counter.
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Jul 4, 2017 04:59
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What's the longest time Floyd has gone on the offensive? I can't picture how aggressive he would stay if McGregor offered just token feints to keep Floyd off.
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Jul 5, 2017 21:12
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Floyd threw 36 punches per round in the Manny fight, about 12 per minute. With an accuracy of 34%, that's 4 punches a minute. Conor over his career has landed 5.8 significant strikes per minute, at 47% accuracy, so also about 12 thrown per minute. Significant excludes light punches from the clinch or in ground and pound. Note that Conor has mostly stopped his opponents early, so you could easily argue that his work rate over 12 rounds would be much much lower. This all says very little about what either's work rate or willingness to work will be in their fight.
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Jul 6, 2017 04:11
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Jack B Nimble posted:Are you going by the compubox that numbers that apparently separate power punches and jabs? I'm kind of curious when (if ever) compubox stats say a jab becomes a power punch. Is every lead hand straight punch at the start of a combination a jab in these stats? It's from Fightmetric (competitor to Compustrike), which allows for jabs to be significant strikes.
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Jul 6, 2017 05:17
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Jack B Nimble posted:McGregor moving forward into closer range but not actually punching (I believe Mayweather has shown he's not at his best against that strategy)? It's too much to apply boxing analysis to a fighter who has never boxed pro, much less at this level. Oscar and Maidana might have taken a few rounds from pressing Floyd, but it is way too much to ask Conor to try that workrate-heavy strategy. Not to mention he'll have a leverage disadvantage with slightly longer arms.
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Jul 6, 2017 22:06
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Skip My Posts posted:In my experience with the IRS they'll let him wait to pay but they will keep or increase his penalties What is your experience with the IRS exactly?
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Jul 10, 2017 17:33
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Lol at Schaub saying that no-one else would take a fight with Conor.
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Jul 11, 2017 22:11
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"he has never turned down a challenge"
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Jul 11, 2017 22:36
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Taintrunner posted:I'm not familiar with these sorts of press conferences why is everyone booing their rear end off? The pop Dana got for his informal hype says a lot about how the UFC is perceived and the audience composition.
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Jul 11, 2017 22:53
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Nifft posted:Why wouldn't they mic them up? Seems dumb. Guess it'll be on the behind the scenes show. Future me paid $100 to see all the talk 
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Jul 11, 2017 23:09
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I appreciate Rashad crossing over to give Floyd some tips on poo poo-talking.
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Jul 11, 2017 23:15
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Doesn't seem to be much animosity -- Floyd's casual dismissal of Dana's step-in says it's all business and promotion. Honestly, can't see how he would be agitated given how much of a walk in the park it'll be.
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Jul 12, 2017 18:19
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Lol Leonard Ellerbe breaking after "and you act 10"
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coconono posted:When did Conor start talking like Nick Diaz? Tew oh noine, bitch.
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