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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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| Where will the Pauls go |
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| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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Durant's contract is also up after next year. He said he'd be willing to take a discount to stay, but I don't think that really moves the needle considering rising salaries and who needs to get paid
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Booooooooooooooquote:About 30 minutes after Game 7 of the 2016 Finals, Warriors forward Draymond Green sat at his locker in full uniform, fiddling with his phone. All around him, teammates hastily showered and dressed, rushing from Oracle Arena and the champagne fumes that polluted the air. But Green was in no hurry to leave. He replayed in his mind the climactic moments of a weeklong collapse against Cleveland: the chase-down block by LeBron James on Andre Iguodala, the clanked three-pointer by Steph Curry over Kevin Love, the mysterious cold front that froze Golden State’s usually reliable flamethrowers. How, Green wondered, can I make sure this never happens again? https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/13/golden-state-warriors-kevin-durant-nba-championship-draymond-green-text
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Jun 13, 2017 07:42
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The Bulls are going to trade Jimmy Butler for the #3 pick and draft Luke Kennard
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Jun 17, 2017 17:56
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My best guess as to Ainge's possiblee motives, other than his unquenchable thirst for assets: 1) He likes Jackson just as much as, if not more than, Fultz, and so there's no reason not to move down and get more pieces while still picking your favorite guy 2) He likes Jackson nearly as much as Fultz, and he thinks it's worth a marginal downgrade in talent to accumulate more pieces that keep Boston's roster-building options wide open. They can move any future picks they get, along with the Brooklyn 2018 pick and their unending stock of wings, at any time. If they need to do so now to woo a big free agent, they can do that. If they're doing really well in the regular season and Cleveland looks vulnerable, they can do it at the deadline. And if they want to wait until next offseason, sure, why not? Basically, I think there's probably not a "next move" already etched into stone. It could materialize quickly, or it could never happen because Ainge can't bring himself to pull the trigger. And it might be fun to laugh at Boston for not pushing its chips forward, but it seems like "getting a bunch of lottery picks while your team is still good" isn't a terrible outcome either
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Jun 17, 2017 18:05
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Niwrad posted:They just seem incredibly valuable. Unprotected picks from bad teams. There's a decent chance that Lakers pick is top-5 next year and that Kings pick is top-3. And this doesn't seem like a draft with a huge gap between players on top to move up two spots. I think it makes sense. Fultz and Jackson are definitely two players where one GM could see them as more or less equal prospects, and another could see a huge gulf between them. Fultz is a great fit for Philly's needs, and Jackson is the type of prospect that Ainge seems to really like. Hinkie-worshippers like to give Colangelo poo poo, but I think the Sixers are at the point where they can overpay for what they think is the Last Piece before they push toward contention.
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Jun 17, 2017 18:29
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EvanTH posted:this seems premature to me I don't think they should be signing Lowry to a huge deal just to try to get the 8th seed in the East or anything. They'll probably benefit from another year or two of mid-to-late lottery picks to flesh out the roster as their young guys learn to play together (and stay healthy, hopefully). But if they think Fultz is a star-level player, they have Embiid, Simmons and Fultz all with franchise centerpiece potential. At a certain point, you should probably get antsy to get out of the high lottery, and I think the 76ers are in a place where they can do so. Plus they'll always have the Kings 2019 pick to fall back on if one of their young players flames out!
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Jun 17, 2017 18:48
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Woj indicated it was the Lakers pick and a protected Philadelphia 2021 first, which seems pretty balanced on both sides
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Jun 18, 2017 03:34
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That's a dicey trade both ways, depending on how the protections work. Two high lottery picks is an overpay, but if they're top-1 or top-3 protected, does Boston just lose out on a big portion of their haul if the protection kicks in?
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Jun 18, 2017 03:42
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Cool Buff Man posted:Danny Ainge. Just deal everything for Butler already you mormon bastard Strongly agree Although if the Bulls actually pull the trigger on a trade with Boston the protections on the future picks will all kick in and Chicago will end up getting the 2023 76ers second round pick (60th overall)
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Jun 18, 2017 04:04
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https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/876273837536575488 Hmm this seems like a bad motive for Philadelphia. Is it possible that Bryan Colangelo might not be a good GM???????
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Jun 18, 2017 04:07
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The roster is going to get more expensive, so we're comfortable trading away picks that would guarantee us players on cheap contracts
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Jun 18, 2017 04:15
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Forget how this changes the balance of the deal - what does it mean if Woj was wrong
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Jun 18, 2017 04:21
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https://twitter.com/AdamHimmelsbach/status/876279056202964992 I buy that Ainge just loves Josh Jackson, but if the Lakers wanted Fultz could they have beaten this package? Hmm
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Jun 18, 2017 04:24
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I think, if nothing else, this is confirmation the Celtics probably would have just taken Jackson #1 if they couldn't have traded down Now Celtics fans just have to trust that Danny Ainge is a good enough talent evaluator to buck the conventional wisdom regarding the tiers in this draft...
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Jun 18, 2017 04:29
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Does it make sense for Boston to draw the line at "top 5" for the 2018 Lakers pick? What happens when Buddy gets the Kings up into the late lottery
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Jun 18, 2017 04:33
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Look, we don't have room for Fultz right now, but we also don't wanna give up any of our future picks to improve our team right now either. Also, this allows the Celtics to focus on the real weak spot on their roster: wings
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Jun 18, 2017 04:52
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I can see a scenario in which the Kings roster is around the same talent level as the Suns this year, but without the incentive to unabashedly tank toward the end of the year. They won't be good, but you add a top-3 talent next year and they're at least potentially interesting. Plus maybe teams will be worn down by the even-more-brutally-effective 2018 Warriors championship run, and there will be a race to the bottom as GMs wait out Golden State's dynasty. What I'm saying is: Buddy Will Lead The Kings To The Playoffs
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Jun 18, 2017 05:32
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I don't see the Celtics cashing in for a star this offseason at this point. Maybe it's a smokescreen, but the move down from 1 to 3 gives off a strong indication that Boston intends to make a pick in this draft, and the trade was a reflection of how Ainge views the top prospects, not another GM. Does anyone think the Celtics realistically move the #3 pick now? If not, would Chicago or Indiana trade Butler or George for a package built around 2018-or-later picks right now, considering how much uncertainty that carries? I guess if the Celtics were drafting Jackson and acquiring Butler/George, they could trade Jaylen Brown without much worry. But I think the simplest explanation is that Ainge really didn't see much difference between the top 3-4 guys, so he moved down and got another asset without really losing anything, in his eyes
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Jun 18, 2017 06:17
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He doesn't have The Look. He looks zonked out of his mind in half of the pictures of him playing T-Mac was able to overcome his sleepy eyes to become a star, but is that what prevented him from making the second round for almost all of his career? Most advanced analytics suggest yes
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Jun 18, 2017 06:36
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Yeah, jesus, what can you even get back under those circumstances? Maybe the Cavs could actually grab him for a season before he bolts now
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Jun 18, 2017 20:23
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What's the motivation for (presumably) George's side to leak this now? To get the Pacers to pull the trigger on a trade now? Because if I'm Magic, I don't wanna give up anything for a guy this thirsty to play on my team anyway, so I dunno if that works out I guess the Knicks traded stuff to get Melo, so who knows
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Jun 18, 2017 20:39
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I see people acting like Love-for-George would a good gamble for the Cavs, but other than potentially improving how they match up with the Warriors (and I don't even take this as a given), the downside way outweighs the upside there, right? You can say "oh Lebron is gonna leave if they lose next year anyway, so you might as well go for it," but wouldn't you rather retool with Kyrie and Love locked down instead of just going all-in against a juggernaut in 2018 Who else should be interested in renting PG? Boston probably has enough excess pieces to try to sell him on winning. Morey could see it as the kind of Hail Mary play Houston needs to have an outside shot at contention. The Clippers, if they had anything worthwhile to trade.
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Jun 18, 2017 23:19
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https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-paul-george-tells-pacers-plans-leave-franchise-prefers-joining-lakers-191520531.htmlquote:In the past 24 hours, Pritchard has become more aggressive in pursuing trades for George, league sources told The Vertical. Pritchard has yet to show an inclination to engage the Lakers, but has discussed deals with several teams – including Cleveland – in which the expectation of teams would be that George is a “one-year rental.” It is unclear how robust those offers to Indiana will ultimately be, given that teams believe he will sign with the Lakers next summer. So far, Indiana is asking for a substantial package of talent and draft picks for George, league sources said. Good luck with that, Kevin
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Jun 18, 2017 23:34
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The Pacers are probably in a beggars can't be choosers situation, but if they have to dump George would they even want a player like Love in return? He inflates their record and doesn't line up with any realistic shot at contention Indiana might have
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Jun 19, 2017 00:31
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Spoeank posted:The only positive ramification of the Warriors winning it all is KD is back on his twitter bullshit Durant artfully dodges denying that he likes when girls fart in his face. Kevin Durant canonically likes girls farting in his face now
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Jun 19, 2017 02:18
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If the Hawks trade for George he might impregnate so many strippers that it would be easier for him to just stay
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Jun 19, 2017 03:21
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EMC posted:Is it just me or has PG gone from underrated earlier in his career to fairly overrated now? Maybe it is more an aesthetic thing for me because I kind of hate watching him play compared to a heap of other wings I definitely think he underperformed relative to his reputation this most recent season. I think a lot of people just kept imagining him living up to the trajectory he was on before he snapped his leg because nobody watches the Pacers play in the regular season. He played better in the second half of the year, though, and he's got such a good skillset for the modern NBA that it's hard not to see him as an insanely desirable piece for any team
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Jun 19, 2017 05:12
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I guarantee the Bulls front office still loves Kris Dunn, because they haven't done any follow-up on how he's performed in the NBA Dunn + 7 + ...let's say Gorgui Dieng, for someone who isn't that good, yet will still make the Bulls needlessly better without getting them any younger  (Italian chef kissing fingers)
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Jun 19, 2017 22:08
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Wait what the gently caress https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/876907779981590528
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Jun 19, 2017 22:09
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https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/876909436736065537 Get that GarPax ripoff thread ready to bump
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Jun 19, 2017 22:12
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Sorry to be the Trade Machine Posting Guy, but does this make sense as the parameters of a Chicago/Cleveland/Phoenix deal with #4 going to the Bulls? I can't decide how much the Bulls would need to be compensated for taking on Knight's salary, since they're going to suck anyway
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Jun 19, 2017 22:28
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https://twitter.com/HowardBeck/status/876973020866367488 Is this good
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Jun 20, 2017 02:27
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Anything Lowe genuinely passes on as a reported tidbit is solid. 60% of the time that has to do with court design changes or proposed lottery odds adjustments, but still, he's decently sourced and doesn't throw poo poo out there in a "reporting" context unless there's validity to it It's not surprising the stuff he hears in passing that he only feels comfortable mentioning on a podcast doesn't usually come to fruition. If there was more substance there, it wouldn't be confined to The Lowe Post
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Jun 20, 2017 03:03
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morestuff posted:https://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/876996442434535424 Please trade D'Angelo Russell for Luke Kennard
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Jun 20, 2017 04:05
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https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/876994999593746432 I can't tell whether the Cavs were as close to a deal as this passage suggests, but one thing's for sure: Dan Gilbert is Good
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Jun 20, 2017 04:33
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https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/877006123357929472 Oh my god
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Jun 20, 2017 04:37
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Never forget that, in the midst of a public meltdown about losing a free agent, Mark Cuban never got distracted from his main focus: promoting something called Cyber Dust
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Jun 20, 2017 05:05
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Finally, someone with the Bulls organization remembered, I dunno, any part of the season before the playoffs began
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Jun 20, 2017 17:58
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Rename thread "Rick suicide watch"
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Jun 20, 2017 23:17
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DLo breaks out in Brooklyn PG13 to the Lakers Buddy gets up All Ainge's assets must be ruined
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