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Crotch Bat posted:I am loving astounded at the ignorance of this posted by a fan of a team who just fired a coach in year 3 after showing, hmm, a 10-4 and 9-4 record in his first 2 years after the team went 4-8 and 7-5 in the two prior years and winning the division each of those years as well. Absolutely loving astounded you could be this stupid. Fun fact, we at least waited until his 3rd year coaching before we had these types of reactions. But yea, keep melting down you crazy diamonds.
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Wait wait, did I mention where Fuente promoted another coach to co-DC, sharing the title with Bud loving Foster now? I mean holy poo poo. Crotch Bat fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Jan 30, 2018 |
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You're basically the Virginia Tech version of Marquis De Pyro, Crotch Bat.
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vyst posted:Fun fact, we at least waited until his 3rd year coaching before we had these types of reactions. You didn't, at all. You guys were bitching about his recruiting from the start. Also there isn't a medal given to "waits until first season that isn't 9+ wins to complain".
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 I am so glad we literally can't fire our coach for like 8 years so we can just be in for the ride and not worry about whether it makes sense to fire him. It's like when Cortes burned his ships.
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Crotch Bat posted:You didn't, at all. You guys were bitching about his recruiting from the start. Also there isn't a medal given to "waits until first season that isn't 9+ wins to complain". Pretty sure the complaints about recruiting were all directed at Muschamp since he left Mac 5 total OL on scholarship his first year. People even gave him a pass because of Muschamps lopsided recruiting. Even prior to this season, it was 50/50 on him being fired or giving him a final chance to turn the offense around. It was clear from the first game the offense was going to suck, so that 50 flipped real fast.
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Virginia Tech is an austere campus tucked into the frigid talent desert of SW Virginia's New River Valley. If people find Tech fans' lamentations overdone it's because the expectations in Blacksburg are really sky high despite what to outsiders appear to be powerful headwinds and a program in relative disarray when Beamer retired. Fuente has the ACC's fourth best recruiting class, which isn't bad. Florida got rid of a coach who couldn't run an offense ranked higher than 110th despite top 10 recruiting classes.
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swickles posted:Pretty sure the complaints about recruiting were all directed at Muschamp since he left Mac 5 total OL on scholarship his first year. People even gave him a pass because of Muschamps lopsided recruiting. Even prior to this season, it was 50/50 on him being fired or giving him a final chance to turn the offense around. It was clear from the first game the offense was going to suck, so that 50 flipped real fast. Not once have I said fire Fuente. I just said I can see he won't be here eventually (and not like a cosmic eventually, I mean probably 4-5 years). His hires and decision-making are not what they should be for a good P5 program like VT and will cause his eventual downfall. I'm not actively campaigning for him to be fired right now, he's clearly done some things well initially but he's not making decisions to move VT forward and when he spins his wheels eventually the tires will deflate and then he'll get removed. It's exactly what happened with Beamer. He won 10 games a year a lot of times in a row, that became his goal each year (he would literally flaunt the 10 win streak as proof things were perfect in Blacksburg) instead of moving the goal posts, he made poor hires, and eventually, well, you saw what happened. His current on-field results are mostly fine but he's made several poor off-field decisions that will eventually do him in, in my opinion. The only reason I feel so strongly about this is because I saw Frank's end come years and years before it even started and Fuente is doing all the same stuff. This hire is to a point exactly what Beamer would have done and that's not a good thing because Frank had very few good hires over his long career, which is why he doesn't have a coaching tree to speak of either. It's also an issue because right now Miami is on an enormous upswing, he can't beat GT, and UNC is making hires that if they don't beat him on the field will beat him in recruiting and that's all before crossing the issue that is FSU and Clemson in the other side of the conference. Half the conference is ahead of VT on the field and/or off of it, that simply can't be if he's going to have long-term success. Crotch Bat fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Jan 30, 2018 |
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Crotch Bat posted:Not once have I said fire Fuente. I just said I can see he won't be here eventually (and not like a cosmic eventually, I mean probably 4-5 years). His hires and decision-making are not what they should be for a good P5 program like VT and will cause his eventual downfall. I'm not actively campaigning for him to be fired right now, he's clearly done some things well initially but he's not making decisions to move VT forward and when he spins his wheels eventually the tires will deflate and then he'll get removed. It's exactly what happened with Beamer. He won 10 games a year a lot of times in a row, that became his goal each year (he would literally flaunt the 10 win streak as proof things were perfect in Blacksburg) instead of moving the goal posts, he made poor hires, and eventually, well, you saw what happened. Yeah, it's entirely true. We're not the premier program in our division anymore, much less our conference, and hiring a guy whose only experience is following Fu around TCU and Memphis as support staff to be a P5 assistant coach is asinine. We whiffed on hiring a coach from a smaller D1 program in North Carolina specifically for his recruiting footprint, and are now left with promoted support staff, with 0 experience or proven talent, as an actual assistant. Our expectations are actually pretty reasonable for the premier program at a football-first school in a talent-rich state with multiple talent rich states around us with no premier football programs of their own: 9-10 wins most years and a shot at the conference championship game. Fuente's offense has been bad for a P5 school, and that's his entire wheelhouse. He hasn't signed a single ACC starting caliber running back yet in three years. He hasn't even been competitive in any big games, though he has won a ton of cupcakes.
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"His record is inflated by cupcakes" is my favorite 'coach is actually bad' argument, as it implies there are P5 coaches out there who play a full slate of 7 wins or better P5 bowl teams.
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General Dog posted:"His record is inflated by cupcakes" is my favorite 'coach is actually bad' argument, as it implies there are P5 coaches out there who play a full slate of 7 wins or better P5 bowl teams. Our conference games are cupcakes, our OOC were cupcakes. Our best win in his entire tenure is against a 7-6 unranked team. Very impressive. Keep in mind your conference schedule for one year is harder than our OOC for the last 3.
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Nur_Neerg posted:Our conference games are cupcakes, our OOC were cupcakes. Our best win in his entire tenure is against a 7-6 unranked team. Very impressive. Keep in mind your conference schedule for one year is harder than our OOC for the last 3. I'm not even saying it's necessarily wrong in your case, but I'd say it's stupid maybe 80% of the time. "What's the best win?" is a much stronger way to get at essentially the same point.
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General Dog posted:I'm not even saying it's necessarily wrong in your case, but I'd say it's stupid maybe 80% of the time. "What's the best win?" is a much stronger way to get at essentially the same point. It's also a big point of contention with the fanbase that we've mostly avoided getting the big name teams in the conference in Blacksburg for a while now, so doubly bad competition. Combined number of times FSU, ND, Clemson have played in Blacksburg the last 5 years? Once.
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OH BOY HAS IT BEEN TWO WEEKS ALREADY, TIME FOR ANOTHER CROTCH BAT MELTDOWN
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Nur_Neerg posted:It's also a big point of contention with the fanbase that we've mostly avoided getting the big name teams in the conference in Blacksburg for a while now, so doubly bad competition. Combined number of times FSU, ND, Clemson have played in Blacksburg the last 5 years? Once. ACC scheduling is trash and it's a joke we aren't playing 9 conference games with the ND deal on the books too. The rotation is utter trash to the detriment of the conference. That's sort of unrelated to coaching, but it doesn't help perception when you don't get to play the big dogs in your conference and just rack up W's vs the less thans.
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To be fair, having our cross division rival be FSU and yours being BC has affected the coastal once or twice.
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Dilber posted:To be fair, having our cross division rival be FSU and yours being BC has affected the coastal once or twice. Matt Ryan tried to do some work there too, the rear end in a top hat. If VT's scheduling were like the VT of old where we were playing a ranked UM, ranked WVU, ranked BC every year, that'd be fine, but as it is we don't often see ranked teams in conference and still have middling records.
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Crotch Bat posted:Wait wait, did I mention where Fuente promoted another coach to co-DC, sharing the title with Bud loving Foster now? I'm all for making fun of VTech fans but holy poo poo this seems stupid
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Breaking News Bulletin FSU owns Thank you
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Adun posted:I'm all for making fun of VTech fans but holy poo poo this seems stupid Ya, really confused. These all seem like valid criticisms.
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pillsburysoldier posted:Breaking News Bulletin Fake news.
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I want you guys to remember these types of reactions to a 10th coach hiring when you say that Texas fans are bad
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Democrazy posted:I want you guys to remember these types of reactions to a 10th coach hiring when you say that Texas fans are bad Texas hired a legitimate addition to the staff for their 10th coach sooooo
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Democrazy posted:I want you guys to remember these types of reactions to a 10th coach hiring when you say that Texas fans are bad They aren't mutually exclusive things
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Crotch Bat posted:You guys are such a broken record at this point. Everything you bitch about concerning your team is a legit point worthy of discussion and highly valued, the exact same situations elsewhere "what are you talking about shutup you have it so good". Like just about every last one of you does this and I'm not even sure you grasp that you do. as a jayhawks fan am i allowed to bitch about my team
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how dare Fuentes act like he's still at Memphis, doesn't he know that now he's at Memphis But In A Power 5 Conference
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DECIDED SCHEMATIC ADVANTAGE quote:FAU: The addition of Charlie Weis as the team’s offensive coordinator / quarterbacks coach has now been formally announced.
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DJExile posted:DECIDED I thought this was Charlie Jr.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I thought this was Charlie Jr. It is. He's literally my age and has me ready to do the thing where I just blanket my resume to every one of these jobs in the hopes that someone will listen to my pitch for my NCAA 14 style Wishbone/Air Raid hybrid offense that relies on having basically every RB and WR be interchangeable and the best FBs in the country. If I coat it in stupid MBA speak, I may even get the ASU job I figure.
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Gus Malzahn is currently in the UAB dining hall. Gus to Blazers CONFIRMED
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quote:New England Patriots: Ohio State defensive coordinator Greg Schiano is expected to become Matt Patricia’s replacement in New England.
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Makes the Grinch thing slightly less depressing for Wazzu I guess. Pats can rest easy knowing that no one in the NFL runs Iowa's offense anymore, at least until Jeff Fisher gets another job
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Hahhaha please happen. New England needs some Schiano men
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vyst posted:Hahhaha please happen. New England needs some Schiano men Hilarious Iowa game aside he's a pretty good DC and it's not like the assistants really matter that much with a Belichick team
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I keep checking this thread to see if Tim Beck has been fired or killed in a car accident yet but it never happens. 
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Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:I keep checking this thread to see if Tim Beck has been fired or killed in a car accident yet but it never happens. I feel your pain.
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