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C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
"hi can you see me a hooker"

"sure but how did you find out about us"

"coach pitino recommended you"

:dial tone:

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C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
It ain't happening but boy it'd be like Lane just missed getting his rear end whipped by Saban that much, huh.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Larry Fedora goes from the uncertainty of UNC sanctions to the certainty of Ole Miss sanctions.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Has Mizzou figured out their social issues yet? It got bad at the end of Pinkel's tenure due to Ferguson and enrollment dropped due to lingering issues coming to light.

There's also the matter that there's a ton of SEC coaches who might get fired during/at the end of the season. Sumlin/bert/Butch/Gus/Stoops are all varying degrees of hot and you might need to eat another year of Odom to position yourself for a better caliber of coach.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Maybe, but Brohm turned Hazell's poo poo rear end players into something actually good

Hes a real good coach

e: Todd Graham

e: If Purdue is bowl eligible, Brohm is so gone

Purdue goes Michigan/bye/Minn/@Wis/@Rutgers/Nebraska/Illinois/@NW/@Iowa/Indiana. Rutgers and Ilinois should be wins, meaning you need one of Minn/Nebraska/Indiana to get to 6, and if everything breaks right 8 or 9 wins isn't out of question depending on only losing to Michigan/Wisconsin/Northwestern or Iowa on the road.

I don't know Brohm's buyout but someone like A&M can certainly find out.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Marquis de Pyro posted:

Given how bad Michigan's offense has been this season I wouldn't mark that one down as a sure loss for Purdue.

Should be an interesting test of Brohm's offense as Michigan's defense is about as good as their offense is bad, but certainly not impossible they could pull it off

And considering Brohm's still working with Hazell's kids I'll take Don Brown's D over his O. No offense.

Also in SEC coach chat, take Stoops off for right now and put Matt Luke on. We're still on pace for nearly half of the conference to change coaches, and that alone makes me think a couple might bite the bullet and bring back their lame duck for another year, Odom/bert in particular.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Possibility Mullen jumps to Tennessee/A&M? I can't see any other huge jobs being open, maybe if he falls apart at the end of the year and his price comes down some UCLA would be in the mix.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

General Dog posted:

It occurred to me that if Malzahn was to be fired this year, Nick Saban would be the only coach in the conference to have won the conference in his career. Has this situation ever existed in one of the major conferences?

Not a major but no current coach in the American has won it. Randy Edsall's two UConn titles came in the Big East.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Nebraska firing their AD means Mike Riley's all but gone unless he goes on a miracle conference-winning run. Nebraska ain't what it used to be but I'd laugh if they were the ones to pull Dan Mullen out of Starkvegas. It'd mean there'd be three former SEC coaches in the B1G, all of whom left on their own accord, and Urbz/Franklin are having more success at their current schools than their former.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

LLCoolJD posted:

The din of cowbells is a sound that I would want to get away from after as many years as he's been there. Plus, if he wants to show people he was the brains behind the Tebow years, he'll need to leave Starkville to win big.

Nebraska is a coaches' graveyard, though.

He's won big at Starkvegas too, getting #CLANGA up to #1 in the first ever playoff poll. He's certainly overachieved from what was expected of him and what he's got available, it's just a matter of going to a place that'll put him in position to win a national title. That may be State for another season since I think Fitzpatrick is a soph and a strong finish/recruiting class could have them starting in the Top 10, which puts them in the hunt. But if A&M/Tennessee come in at 5m+ a year and go up from there, especially Tennessee in the far easier East (although he doesn't escape Bama), he'd have to listen.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

General Dog posted:

Seems like it would take something like $8 million to get him away unless he's just dying to get out. He's making $4.8 million right now, and I'd think Mississippi State would be willing to dig in their pockets and match up until you start approaching Saban numbers, especially if they're a 10 win team this year.

You know, we may have been forgetting about Notre Dame in all this, especially if they fall apart towards the end. Now that's someone who can outspend just about anyone but Texas for someone they want.

And before someone says "lmao notre dame hire CLANGA head coach" Lou Holtz came from Arkansas so it's not like they're above hiring hc's from hillbilly schools.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Looks like it's time for Kirk Ferentz to sign another extension!



e - well nevermind

C. Everett Koop fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Sep 24, 2017

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

an adult beverage posted:

Will Les Miles get a job this year? Especially after how bad LSU has cratered without him, some teams might looks twice at him. Also there will probably be a poo poo-ton of openings this year.

Someone like Mizzou should kick the tires on ol' Les, if only to try and right the ship for the next three years or so. Odom was supposed to do that but he's clearly in over his head.

Also Mullen's agent should be calling UT's AD every day.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
UTEP brings back Mike Price to finish the season.












Or maybe more!!! :unsmigghh:

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

I remember reading some piece where an unnamed source said Chip would only go back to College for a service academy gig. They kinda recruit themselves and don't have to deal with boosters and poo poo

Mike Leach hates recruiting and he has a borderline top 10 team. If there's a want and a will between Chip and a program, there's a way.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

MourningView posted:

He's really good! That's also the rare NFL offense that might translate relatively well. I think he's probably gonna get an NFL head coaching job relatively soon though.

If the Lions win a playoff game he's all but guaranteed.

Yes that's a loving mountain of an "if" but still.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

MourningView posted:

Has anyone ever had three separate stints as head coach at the same school? I can think of a bunch with two, but not three, unless you count Alvarez's biannual bowl game coaching appearance. Becaue I think Mike Riley is gonna be available to make his uh, triumphant (?) return.

Bill Snyder the next time K-State screws up his retirement, probably.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Raku posted:

gently caress no they're taking charlie back and they're gonna like it

no they ain't

they get tyrone back :getin:

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

DJExile posted:

Moos is a solid AD. That's a good hire for Nebraska

It is. However, anyone thinking that Moos is going to be a gateway for Mike Leach coming to Nebraska needs to think otherwise. I don't believe that Leach is going to want to put up with the political bullshit that would come with coaching a program like Nebraska, plus he's got the run of the place up at Wazzu. Whoever Wazzu hires to replace Moos is going to do so with the understanding that Leach isn't going anywhere unless he really wants to and I don't think that Leach does, and unless he's gonna lock any more of Craig James' kids in closets you can't fire him.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

General Dog posted:

With Auburn and LSU left on the schedule, Sumlin really needed to win the Mississippi State game, and he certainly didn't need to get embarrassed by them. 7-5 is looking more likely than 8-4, and that's probably not going to do it.

I don't know if/how it could happen, but Sumlin going to Florida would probably be a win for all parties involved.

e - So in the SEC Ole Miss/Florida are definitely in the market, Tennessee is all but in, Arkansas' probably going to be, and that doesn't count Nebraska/anyone else in the Power 5. Sorry Mizzou, you're probably stuck with Odom for another year.

C. Everett Koop fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Oct 29, 2017

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

Georgia hosed themselves by running McElwain out IMO. Gotta think long game.

It's why Saban doesn't beat deadbeat coach by 70, imo.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Vice Zoomler Aestro posted:

"Butch" Jones's real name is Lyle so we can stop calling him "Butch" now.

loving Lyle.

Champions of Lyle.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Tennessee's gonna hire Gruden.





Jay Gruden :getin:

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Joey Freshwater posted:

This is assuming ESPN wants to keep paying him.

He's signed through 2021, so I'd assume so.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

FizFashizzle posted:

why is the former south carolina head coach talking about UF coaching hires

Ball Coach's has made a school or two have to go through a coaching search in his time.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Also, my money is firmly on Petrino riding back to Arkansas. The biggest obstacle to his return is gone.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Crotch Bat posted:

You can't remove foundations once they're built.

And by foundations you mean money. If the money got pulled out of one of these programs, or football in general, they'd absolutely fall apart.

Football is a bubble to a certain extent, and it may be a too big fail one at that.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
The thing about Leach is that he'll constantly have you in the 7-9 win range, and a great year would be at 10 and in the chase for a division title, maybe winning it if all the cards fell right.

But he's never going to get you that 11-12 win season and that's what the Vols are looking for. Plus we've all stated that Leach doesn't do the gladhanding bullshit that would be necessary for a Tennessee coach or any coach at a major program.

My guess is that Leach is trying to solidify power at Wazzu by threatening to jump to another job, and in the end Wazzu will give him a big contract and make it so that whoever the new AD is doesn't have the ammo to fire Leach pending him loving up royally again. He's betting that Wazzu isn't going to call his bluff because who are they gonna get that's the same or better, and I'm betting that Leach wins his gambit.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Jazzimus Prime posted:

The search continues for the next coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks.

After careful consideration by the Board of Trustees and our largest donors, we were forced to say no to Nick Saban due to the fact that he is unable to beat Auburn.

They're gonna hire Petrino again and let him control the entire state.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

LeeMajors posted:

Bielema seems like a really bad fit in the PAC-12

can't wait to see bert pass out trying to coach at elevation in colorado

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Really gently caress everyone who doesn't hire Mangino this offseason of all offseasons.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
Boy someone's gonna look stupid when they whiff on their wanted hire and end up with Todd Graham.

Someone like......oh let's say Arizona State.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

That's a lot of time without a head coach, so my guess is maybe someone like Cutler or you take the interim tag off Brady and give him a short term deal to settle poo poo down and make and make an actual hire later.

Take interim tag off Hoke, hire bert, have program officially sponsored by Make-A-Wish

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Grittybeard posted:

I thought there was no way this would happen but after thinking/reading about it, it makes sense. Ole Miss can't make a real hire until the NCAA comes down on them, Luke has proven himself competent enough to at least tread water a little bit.

General Dog posted:

Makes a lot of sense, it's going to be hard to bring in somebody before the NCAA's decision on sanctions comes down (and possibly after that too). The fact that the wheels didn't fall off entirely this season is fairly impressive.

Pretty much this. Let him take the brunt of the NCAA sanctions, hope the GodKing retires in the next couple of years, then get back at it. Too many sharks in the pool to try and make a big splash now.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Benne posted:

If Jimbo leaves, who the hell would FSU even go after? Most of the top-tier names are already off the board.

Who knows, they certainly don't. And that's why I don't believe they'd let him leave without a fight.

Besides, why leave a fairly cushy gig to go and get your brains beat in once a year by Saban? Unless there's reliable word that Saban's done in a year or two, going from FSU to A&M is career suicide.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

General Dog posted:

I'd agree it's a risky move, but here's the contrarian take- Bama aside, the west is going to be composed of a post-Mullen Mississippi State, a (likely) sanctions impaired Ole Miss, an Ed Orgeron-helmed LSU, and whatever Arkansas decides to be. For the immediate future, it's not necessarily going to take a herculean effort to reach the point where you're competing for #2 in the division. A&M has high expectations, but if he's winning 9 or 10 games a year he's going to be just fine for a long time.

A&M believes they're a contender in the West, partially based off that first season where they won at Tuscaloosa with a near-generational QB (and set Saban off to change his entire defensive philosophy). I don't believe 9 wins is going to satisfy them if it means going 5-3 in the conference. You also left out Auburn which has been up and down under Gus, which means you might be playing for third if Gus is on one of his up years.

Maybe in the back of Jimbo's mind he's thinking that Saban's 66 while Dabo's only 48 and he'd have a better chance going to the SEC West and waiting out Saban than staying in the ACC Atlantic and battling against Dabo for however long (this also means he think Dabo won't go to Bama once Saban retires :ssh:). It can't just be the divorce and the 7.5m, if it's money he wants FSU will give it to him.

Jimbo's got a job at FSU for as long as he wants unless seasons like this past one become the norm and a not a fluke. At A&M he's got 3 years to get into the Playoff before the seat warms up. Why he'd jump into that is beyond me but I don't know how he thinks.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

vyst posted:

Norvell seems like a weird fit for Arkansas

Apparently Norvell is an Arkansas native, poor guy.

As for bert's failures as a coach, as opposed to his other failures as a human being, this article breaks it down https://www.arkansasfight.com/2017/11/25/16698038/a-look-at-what-went-wrong-for-bret-bielema

tl:dr: what bert wanted to do didn't jive with what the state produced, and after 'cruitin went awry he was left with pieces that didn't fit in the puzzle. When you consider how bad the OL got when that was bert's pride and joy, it makes sense I guess.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

an adult beverage posted:

What happened to chan Gailey? That was like the opposite of this: lovely college coach gets a NFL gig.

christ we're still talking about schiano?

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Sir Thats Gross posted:

oh gently caress.

Does the OSU admin want to go through this bullshit though? It seems like Gundy is sought after every year.

T. Boone's got a couple bucks to him even if oil is down. If he wants to keep Gundy he'll make it worth Gundy's while.

Joey Freshwater posted:

I cant believe you’re buying into this stuff. I just had a friend send me flight tracker stuff of a plane going from UT to Stillwater.

I will not believe anything until there is a guy at a podium in Knoxville going “hi I’m your new coach”

At which point Houston Nutt is escorted off campus by security.

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C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
HOUSTON NUTT OR TODD GRAHAM WEARING A HOUSTON NUTT MASK, COME ON DOWN

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