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Crotch Bat posted:Not once have I said fire Fuente. I just said I can see he won't be here eventually (and not like a cosmic eventually, I mean probably 4-5 years). His hires and decision-making are not what they should be for a good P5 program like VT and will cause his eventual downfall. I'm not actively campaigning for him to be fired right now, he's clearly done some things well initially but he's not making decisions to move VT forward and when he spins his wheels eventually the tires will deflate and then he'll get removed. It's exactly what happened with Beamer. He won 10 games a year a lot of times in a row, that became his goal each year (he would literally flaunt the 10 win streak as proof things were perfect in Blacksburg) instead of moving the goal posts, he made poor hires, and eventually, well, you saw what happened. Yeah, it's entirely true. We're not the premier program in our division anymore, much less our conference, and hiring a guy whose only experience is following Fu around TCU and Memphis as support staff to be a P5 assistant coach is asinine. We whiffed on hiring a coach from a smaller D1 program in North Carolina specifically for his recruiting footprint, and are now left with promoted support staff, with 0 experience or proven talent, as an actual assistant. Our expectations are actually pretty reasonable for the premier program at a football-first school in a talent-rich state with multiple talent rich states around us with no premier football programs of their own: 9-10 wins most years and a shot at the conference championship game. Fuente's offense has been bad for a P5 school, and that's his entire wheelhouse. He hasn't signed a single ACC starting caliber running back yet in three years. He hasn't even been competitive in any big games, though he has won a ton of cupcakes.
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General Dog posted:"His record is inflated by cupcakes" is my favorite 'coach is actually bad' argument, as it implies there are P5 coaches out there who play a full slate of 7 wins or better P5 bowl teams. Our conference games are cupcakes, our OOC were cupcakes. Our best win in his entire tenure is against a 7-6 unranked team. Very impressive. Keep in mind your conference schedule for one year is harder than our OOC for the last 3.
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General Dog posted:I'm not even saying it's necessarily wrong in your case, but I'd say it's stupid maybe 80% of the time. "What's the best win?" is a much stronger way to get at essentially the same point. It's also a big point of contention with the fanbase that we've mostly avoided getting the big name teams in the conference in Blacksburg for a while now, so doubly bad competition. Combined number of times FSU, ND, Clemson have played in Blacksburg the last 5 years? Once.
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Dilber posted:To be fair, having our cross division rival be FSU and yours being BC has affected the coastal once or twice. Matt Ryan tried to do some work there too, the rear end in a top hat. If VT's scheduling were like the VT of old where we were playing a ranked UM, ranked WVU, ranked BC every year, that'd be fine, but as it is we don't often see ranked teams in conference and still have middling records.
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