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Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?
So, I decided to start experimenting with my "roll-maker" to try and make a sonic Dreadnought/Hellbrute, and, so far, I think I'm happy with the results:



It's one of my 3 Dark Vengeance Hellbrutes, with a random Sonic bit I found in my bits box, some more of the Vehicle sprue stuff on the top for the Doom Siren, and lots of green-stuffed cables/tentacles for the Power Scourge and to cover up that I'm using a couple Tau bits to give some. .. length to the Blastmaster.

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Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

SteelMentor posted:

That's pretty heckin' rad, need to get me one of those rollers.

Zaphod42 posted:

This loving rules :five:

Thanks! I'm still tweaking the Power Scourge part as they haven't fully cured yet, so I'm working on them until they start to fix in place.

The Roll-Maker is like the tentacle/piping/tubing equivalent of "potted" talent that washes provides. :D It's also neat because I'll get to make the Dark Vengeance Hellbrutes look a bit more unique, even if they have the same basic pose.

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?
The process continues:



And yup, those are cut up Tau bits (two fusion guns each I think) used to elongate the barrel for the blastmaster. I think, this time, I might try making the tentacles for the Power scourge, leave them to cure, then attach them. Gravity was kind of a bitch with my first attempt.

It's so much fun doing converting again: the community down in South America is utterly Warmachine obsessed for the most part, but 8th edition has brought a lot of 40k players out of the wood-work. :3:

Xarlaxas fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Jul 12, 2017

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

Serotonin posted:

They look like they are rocking out

Yeah, actually they do a bit, unintentional, but entirely appropriate! :D

The fluff is all about how awful it is to be stuffed inside a Hellbrute, but I think that the Sonic Hellbrutes might enjoy it a bit more: pumped full of drugs, blaring some house at the enemy, sounds like a good time! :ducksiren:

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

SteelMentor posted:

Looking good dude. Maybe would have converted one with the Blastmaster and the scourge on different hands for a bit of variety, but they look great regardless.

That's a good idea: there's still time to that: will just need to do a little sawing. . . . BRB.

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

SteelMentor posted:

Looking good dude. Maybe would have converted one with the Blastmaster and the scourge on different hands for a bit of variety, but they look great regardless.

Well, here's the arm swap: think it turned out ok!



Now, if only I could paint worth a drat. :v:

Xarlaxas fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Jul 12, 2017

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

Kabuki Shipoopi posted:

I'm actually working out how to add a small, but loud mp3 player inside a land raider or rhino for my slaanesh army. I want to load it up with Merzbow, Kid 606, Aphex Twin, and various other songs.

If my opponent wants me to turn it off, they have to kill it.

:getin:

Oh my god, that's an amazing idea: I was thinking of getting of the flashing LEDs that they put in the cheap plastic stuff they give out at parties and such here, and seeing if I could attach them to one of the Hellbrutes, one of my rhinos or something so I could have the rave on the move, but yours is truly brilliant. :D

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

Agentdark posted:

How the hell do you get triangles that perfect on Harlequins. I love Harlequins and I have no idea now to paint them.

Also this. I have no idea how anyone can paint such beautiful Harlequins.

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

Kabuki Shipoopi posted:

I was thinking about just taking this thing apart and mounting it inside, and extending the charge port to the rear of the vehicle:



Edit: I could integrate this little gem with a slightly larger speaker, power it with some batteries and have some real fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMlkMWcOLLU

If you ever succeed you *must* post the results.

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

Zaphod42 posted:

Guitar Noise Marines are pretty rare these days though, totally out of print. The modern blastmaster cannons are just weaponized beatboxes and could easily blast metal or EDM both.

I like the idea of metal-head noise marines, like that guitar guy from the latest Mad Max film. But then that style of Slayer metal almost feels more Khorne than Slaanesh.

Slaanesh really makes me think of like, planet-scale rave parties. Blasting the music so loud that you feel the bass across the entire surface of the planet, and they're just moshing their way through cities tearing people apart while dancing and blasting the music and hyped up on all kinds of drugs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsGRsDe3iRw

I have one or two of the Guitar Noise Marines somewhere: someone traded them to me ages back, I think one's on a Goblin Green base and everything. . . .

Noise Marines can probably get hyped on any music, also all the drugs they've got being pumped into their sysems. :v:

My Dark Eldar army had a theme similar to that: they glass planets to make them into giant disco-balls so they can suitably large strobe-lighting for their Space Raves. Back in. . . 6th(?) I think it was, I had them allied with my Noise Marines. :ducksiren:

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?
Come and hear the song of Slaanesh:



All three are ready for painting etc.

Also, my Noise Marines play Teenage Dirtbag by Wheatus. :v:

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?
Looks good to me! :)

As always, best to check with your opponent before-hand, but I doubt any reasonable person would object.

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?
So, I uh, did a thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-w_5yxbVmY

I just need to make the light fixture (more or less) permanent, and find some way to fit the music *inside* the Rhino. . . :v:

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

Safety Factor posted:

You put the door on backwards.

That would explain why it never closed properly: it was my first Rhino. My second and 3rd Rhinos are 2nd-hand, one doesn't have a back-door, the other has its door glued shut.

I also found one of my brother's 2nd edition Rhinos, which is a baby compared to the newer ones.

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

TKIY posted:

So:





Good loving luck transporting a grappling gun. Also not sure about the Aggressors... Possibly good, possibly a little too much over the top.

And when can we give GW our :10bux: for these??

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?
Just had my first game of 8th edition at 800 points: it was a blast!

Was introducing my wife to the game, so we played with the basic 12 page rules and the match was alarmingly close.

We had this T'au List:

    Cadre Fireblade with 2 Gun Drones
    12-Man Strike Team with Markerlights and 2 Gun Drones x3
    3-Man Stealth Suit Team with Fusion Blaster, 2 Markerlight Drones + an extra Markerlight x1
    3-Man Crisis Suit Team with double Plasma Rifles with Advanced Targeting Systems and 6 Gun Drones x1

vs:

    Chaos Sorcerer with Force Axe, Plasma Pistol, Prescience, and Warptime
    10 Noise Marines with 2 Blastmasters, 7 Sonic Blasters, 1 Noise Champion with Doom Siren, Lightning Claw, and Plasma Pistol
    2 Hellbrutes with 2 Blastmasters, Power Scourge, and Doom Siren

Objective turned out to be "Take and Hold" so we had 4 objectives worth 2VP each, and D3 for Warlord kill.

My wife took the Chaos force as it was smaller, so I got to try out the T'au.

I kept my Crisis Suits in Reserve, and everything else was pushed forward to try and hold up objectives and get kills early.

The system is beautifully simple, although I had to keep on correcting myself that it's the "Charge" phase, not the "Assault" phase.

We ended up 5-2 in my favour, but it almost went to my Wife as, by the end of the game I had my Fireblade holding an objective, and it was only poor rolling from the Hellbrute that stopped it from murdering him.

The Plasma Rifles with the Advanced Targeting System really did a number on the Marines: with 1 Markerlight you're getting to re-roll 1s, hitting on 4s, and killing on 3s thanks to AP-4.

All in all, much fun was had, and I'm looking forward to getting some more games in. :3:

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

WhiteOutMouse posted:

You might have miss this, but any model with CHARACTER keyword that also has the faction Keyword CHAOS can summon already.

I totally missed that as well: but how does it work with Matched Play? It only mentions Power Level, and you need to put points aside for summoning. :confused:

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

Safety Factor posted:

You'd compare power level for the actual roll to see what you can summon and deduct points from what you've set aside once you've decided.

So, put aside X points before the battle begins, roll, get the power level, check the Daemons in the list, see what the power level for the unit is, then check the points cost to see if they (more or less) match up?

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

Corrode posted:

Yep, as long as the summoned unit costs no more than the points available to you for summoning, that's the process.

Seems a little convoluted, but I guess that's what happens when you have two points systems. At least demons basically don't have wargear options, so it should be pretty consistent?

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

Uroboros posted:

I'm sorry that the character that is written as not being a glory seeking man-child is portrayed as more successful and level headed than his brothers, how unrealistic.

Yeah, Gulliman is actually a very interesting character (and I don't even like Ultramarines much.) Reading Dark Imperium, and (from what I recall of the HH) he's basically the guy who has had power and authority thrust upon him, and he feels duty-bound to do his best, even though, to be honest, he'd really rather be dead. . .

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

Artum posted:

I just finished unremembered empire as a painting audiobook and I was NOT expecting my reaction to a primarch to be "d'awww thats so sweet" when it came to Guilliman worrying over his mum.

Going to have to look that one up, it sounds interesting.

Also, I really like the fluff of the Emperor seeing the Primarchs as tools to achieve his own ends: he destroyed the Thunder Warriors after they served their purpose, he lied to everyone, even the Primarchs, with the Imperial Truth, for his own ends, and it really puts into question exactly what his "grand plan" for humanity really was, and makes the worshipping him as a deity even more ironic. The Emperor's Mercy in modern 40k is about the same as "Compliance" that he had the Legions perform.

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

Senjuro posted:

That's one way to look at it I suppose. But the Emperor being a well intentioned person, though not above some ruthless acts, being forced to watch his hopes and dreams for humanity be twisted and destroyed before his eyes over the millennia while he's powerless to stop it seems much more hosed up and fitting for the universe to me. The idea that humanity truly had a shot at a bright future and now all that's left of it is a corpse that they don't allow to die.

I think it's absolutely compatible that he has a great plan for humanity, and that everything he's doing is for the betterment of mankind (in his eyes) while also being an absolute sociopath who treats his "children" and the resources of humanity as tools as part of said plan.

Being a sociopath doesn't mean having no feelings, it's about having no empathy: he probably is incredibly upset at what has happened over the 10-11 thousand years he's been strapped to the Golden Throne because his *plan* is being ripped apart: he has/had some overarching goal for mankind, and they messed it up and shanked him in the process.

The Heresy is still incredibly poignant for the Primarchs: they see themselves as a family, and the Emperor as their father, while he sees them as pawns. It's the unrequited familial love (and Chaos trickery) that ends up tearing everything apart.

Basically, the Heresy is a soap opera with superhuman mutants. :v:

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

Senjuro posted:

I can't imagine the imperium would have been a lot more pleasant to live in with a sociopathic Emperor that only sees you as a resource or a tool. That's pretty much the state of the Imperium we know today. There needs to be a sense that things could have been better, drastically better for it to feel like a real loss.

It also makes the loyalist primarchs seem like complete chumps.

Just because he doesn't have empathy doesn't mean he can't create a fair and just society for humankind. The problem is his coldness on a personal level, it's the whole "I love humanity, it's people I can't stand" idea. We're also talking about some sort of psychic demi(?) god who perceives reality completely differently from a regular human (or even a primarch) so trying to understand him emotionally (or him understanding humans) is probably difficult.


According to the 6th(?) edition Codex, whichever one came out with Dark Vengeance, he's chilling out in a super-secret part of The Rock, in stasis, not far off from where they have Lysander imprisoned I believe. :v:

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

Pendent posted:

I'm guess you mean Luther and not Darnath Lysander of the Imperial Fists, as funny as that would be.

Yes, I meant Luther: knew it began with an "L" and a quick google search gave me the wrong one. :doh:

That would certainly lead to some awkward questions for the Dark Angels. . . .

EDIT: Yeah, the Lion coming back would be very fun, with Cypher running around Lys Luther next door to him, and his "loyal" Marines spending more time hunting the Fallen than actually doing their jobs, he'd have a lot of house-cleaning.

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

TheLawinator posted:

Yea so this next civil war is gonna be dope.

Yeah, everything really has a "new civil war is coming" vibe to it: Gulliman is not liked by the Ecclisiarchy, the High Lords of Terra, and, the Inquisition. The Primaris Marines seem to think they're going to replace the regular Astartes any time now, and that's going to really go down well I'm sure. :v:

Cawl is basically a Heretek whose tinkering with sacred artefacts have put him at the top of the traditionalist Mechanicus hit list. . . .

Oh, and they both have worked with Xenos, so that makes them more suspect.

jadebullet posted:

It depends on who is writing him. His portrayal in Know no Fear was awesome. Him magically showing up to save the Blood Angels just in the nick of time, not so much. (especially when they could have done something awesome with Sanguinor)

Gulliman gets a lot of credit, but the real MVP in that fight was Khorne and his "this tendril of the hive fleet is now a pile of skulls" trick.

e: beaten ^

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

chutche2 posted:

There was warp travel before the astronomicon, there's warp travel beyond the astronomicon's reach, and now half the galaxy is cut off from it and there's still warp travel. The astronomicon just makes it safer.

Warp travel without the astronomicon is hilariously dangerous though, for example, in the Rogue Trader RPG, you get a -60 penalty to navigation rolls if you can't find the astronomicon: this is in a D100 system, where most people have stats around 30-50.

Travel still happens, but it has to rely on old charts, blind luck, a lot of prayer, and not being surprised if you arrive a few systems and/or centuries away from your expected destination. :v:

Of course, there is stuff like the Void Abacus, which is basically a Navigation Computer that does all that for you, without a Navigator, or need for the Astronomicon, so the Navigator's guild has those banned as heretical/evil archaeotech/cutting into their line of business. They might be quite popular in the Dark Imperium though. . . .

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

Corrode posted:

If they have a brain they'll make sure to split all the different orgs down the middle so that you have Ad Mech, Ecclesiarchy etc. on either side rather than each organisation moving as a monolith.

Guilliman outright states that making Cawl Fabricator General would cause civil war on Mars, and many other forge worlds, so, most likely, if a civil war happens, there will be pieces of every faction on however many sides.

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

Chaos FAQ 1.1 p2 posted:

Q: When I manifest the Warptime psychic power, can I select a unit that arrived on the battlefeld as reinforcements this turn?
A: Yes.

:monocle: Well, time to put a Jump Pack on my Sorcerer and send him in with the Warp Talons. :getin:

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

zeal posted:

tbh what i've read of Dark Imperium has me slowly coming around on robby g

Yeah, by the end of Dark Imperium I was thinking "you poor bastard" about Guilliman. :monocle:

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

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TheChirurgeon posted:

There's no rule for anyone getting cult units as Troops. They did a design interview earlier this week where they said that was intentional.

So, they had that rule in the Index but have removed it from the Codex?

I figured the prohibitively high points cost for a squad of Noise Marines was enough of a limiter to stop spam, or are they cheaper in the Codex at least?

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?
After hearing how awesome the Repressor is for the Sisters of Battle I want one, but, apparently, the mould is worn out at Forge World. :cry:

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

SteelMentor posted:

I get the feeling someone watched that Overwatch Junkertown video and said "Pff, we can do the sexy gang queen thing to".

Strange how working class British lasses and working class Australian lasses have similar accents. . . almost like there's some sort of shared history. :v:

I'm super hyped for Necromunda, I never played it back in the day (was too busy with Fantasy and 40k for Specialist games) but the new models look sweeeet.

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

For_Great_Justice posted:

I like these. If I were ever gonna add IG to my army these are what I'd look at. They're a far sight better than Cadians the blandest faction out there there.

I like them, they're in Hard Plastic, and they have female heads, which is pretty sweet. The only problem is not enough swords to represent proper 40k officers. . . . :v:

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

For_Great_Justice posted:

I can get that. I kit bash most leader models so never an issue for me. You just get good dudes in good armor. Anyone who honestly thinks those are bad are doing mental gymnastics.

Yeah, I was thinking of going through my bits box for power swords etc. to kit bash the necessary parts. However, I only have Chaos and Tau bits: I imagine that Chaos Power Swords/Fists/etc. are a good deal bigger than the human equivalent?

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

For_Great_Justice posted:

Not much different from what I've seen. An in going with 40k aesthetic if it isn't twice the size of the user it isn't a real weapon.

That is true, I'll probably have to do some hand-cutting, and see if I have any sheathed swords somewhere, but it's probably doable, and will end up so much cheaper.

goose willis posted:

I love how polarizing the Mantic kit is for people in this thread

You either like it and/or the value of it or you loving hate it

I mean, honestly, they're not the sexiest minis I've seen around, but they're much nicer looking than the current GW Guard models, they're cheaper, and they're hard plastic, so can be kit-bashed, so there don't seem to be any major downsides, apart from not getting to take them to GW official tournaments. Oh wait, I live in Latin America. :v:

Big McHuge posted:

Are there normally people around that would drop that much all at once on an army? Back when I played, we all just kinda pieced together things a few units at a time.

Probably! However, it might be better to list each squad, vehicle, and character separately. Generally speaking, you'll end up with more people bidding on lots of small lots, and driving up the price, than on one big lot.

Of course, if you're not too worried about getting the *full* value, selling it as one lot (with a reasonable reserve price) might be good, and, from a hobbyist perspective, it would be kinda sad to see such a nice army split apart.

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?
So, if I were to pick up one of these I'd be able to build any of the 5 regular (non-FW) Knights or a (non-FW) Renegade Knight, right?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Renegade-Knight-2016

Seems to be just a Warden box + a transfer, and the Warden has all the bits required for any of the load-outs?

Tempted to pick up a Knight for my Emperor's Children and/or my Sisters of Battle. . . .

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

ANAmal.net posted:

Yeah, this will build any of the imperial variants. The only downside is that it's designed for the Imperial loadouts, not Chaos, so you won't be able to do the Coolest Knight, which is dual gatling guns.

Ahh. So, I'm checking the Indexes, basically, the "best" load-out is an Avenger Gatling Cannon + Heavy Flamer on each arm, which Chaos *can* do, but none of the five "standard" Imperial load-outs allows, which means that the Knight Warden kit only comes with one Gatling cannon so I need to find a second one somewhere else.

Also, the Knight is a model made for heavy magnetizing (like the Baneblade,) unless you feel like dropping $800+ to field the different variants, right? :v:

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

ANAmal.net posted:

I'm a big dumb idiot so I didn't magnetize mine, but I went with the gatling and battle cannons, with the three-shot krak missile carapace weapon. It fairly loving shreds.

Yeah, I only discovered magnets when I started playing Warmachine, then I came back to 40k and looked at a bunch of my models and though "gently caress, so many wasted magnetizing opportunities." :doh:

Looking at the load-out options for a knight, I'd definitely say at least *one* Gatling, and that "Stormspear" thing (I guess that's the Krak Missile launcher.) It looks like there's really no need for any of the Melee options as the guns are so powerful, and if anything gets into close combat you can stomp on them and then moonwalk band shoot them.

I guess the chainsword the size of a tank is *cool* though. :v:

Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

Who speaks for the Man's cub?

goose willis posted:

You know what? Let's have a little survey here.

Respond to this post with all armies that you officially play with, meaning you can field one in a legal match under current rules.

Emperor's Children
Craftworld Eldar
Tau
Dark Eldar (but they're in another continent right now.)

I used to have Dark Angels as well, but I sold those before Plasma became awesome. :doh:

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Xarlaxas
Sep 2, 2011

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goose willis posted:

When I have some more time later this week I will work on enhancing the data set with other things from the posts and I will make better plots

I actually think it will be interesting to see how many of the responses are Space Marine only, or if "everyone" has Space Marines because of cheap starters, and then collects something else too.

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