- wateroverfire
- Jul 3, 2010
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How do you know this? Or find this out?
Some of the texts are transcribed in iirc the state court's denial of motion to dismiss that was linked here and daaaaaamn.
http://cases.justia.com/massachusetts/supreme-court/2016-sjc-12043.pdf?ts=1467383517
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3 On July 8, 2014, between 8:09 P.M. and 8:18 P.M., the
defendant and victim exchanged the following text messages:
Defendant: "So are you sure you don't wanna [kill
yourself] tonight?"
Victim: "what do you mean am I sure?"
Defendant: "Like, are you definitely not doing it
tonight?"
Victim: "Idk yet I'll let you know"
Defendant: "Because I'll stay up with you if you wanna do
it tonight"
Victim: "another day wouldn't hurt"
5
as to when and how he should kill himself,4 assuaged his concerns
over killing himself,5 and chastised him when he delayed doing
Defendant: "You can't keep pushing it off, tho, that's all
you keep doing"
4 The defendant helped the victim determine the method he
eventually used to kill himself. On July 7, 2014, between
10:57 P.M. and 11:04 P.M., they exchanged the following text
messages:
Defendant: "Well there's more ways to make CO. Google
ways to make it. . . "
Victim: "Omg"
Defendant: "What"
Victim: "portable generator that's it"
On July 11, 2014, at 5:13 P.M., the defendant sent the
victim the following text message: " . . . Well in my opinion,
I think u should do the generator because I don't know much
about the pump and with a generator u can't fail"
On July 12, 2014, between 4:25 A.M. and 4:34 A.M., they
exchanged the following text messages:
Defendant: "So I guess you aren't gonna do it then, all
that for nothing"
Defendant: "I'm just confused like you were so ready and
determined"
Victim: "I am gonna eventually"
Victim: "I really don't know what I'm waiting for. . but
I have everything lined up"
Defendant: "No, you're not, Conrad. Last night was it.
You keep pushing it off and you say you'll do it but u never do.
Its always gonna be that way if u don't take action"
Defendant: "You're just making it harder on yourself by
pushing it off, you just have to do it"
6
Defendant: "Do u wanna do it now?"
Victim: "Is it too late?"
Victim: "Idkk it's already light outside"
Victim: I'm gonna go back to sleep, love you I'll text you
tomorrow"
Defendant: "No? Its probably the best time now because
everyone's sleeping. Just go somewhere in your truck. And no
one's really out right now because it's an awkward time"
Defendant: "If u don't do it now you're never gonna do it"
Defendant: "And u can say you'll do it tomorrow but you
probably won't"
5 During the evening of July 11, 2014, and morning of July
12, 2014, the victim and the defendant exchanged the following
text messages:
Victim: "I'm just to sensitive. I want my family to know
there was nothing they could do. I am entrapped in my own
thoughts"
Victim: "like no I would be happy if they had no guilt
about it. because I have a bad feeling tht this is going to
create a lot of depression between my parents/sisters"
Victim: "i'm overthinking everything. . gently caress. I gotta
stop and just do it"
Defendant: "I think your parents know you're in a really
bad place. Im not saying they want you to do it, but I honestly
feel like they can except it. They know there's nothing they
can do, they've tried helping, everyone's tried. But there's a
point that comes where there isn't anything anyone can do to
save you, not even yourself, and you've hit that point and I
think your parents know you've hit that point. You said you're
mom saw a suicide thing on your computer and she didn't say
anything. I think she knows it's on your mind and she's
prepared for it"
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Defendant: Everyone will be sad for a while, but they will
get over it and move on. They won't be in depression I won't
let that happen. They know how sad you are and they know that
you're doing this to be happy, and I think they will understand
and accept it. They'll always carry u in their hearts"
. . .
Victim: "i don't want anyone hurt in the process though"
Victim: "I meant when they open the door, all the carbon
monoxide is gonna come out they can't see it or smell it.
whoever opens the door"
Defendant: "They will see the generator and know that you
died of CO. . . ."
. . .
Victim: "hey can you do me a favor"
Defendant: "Yes of course"
Victim: "just be there for my family  "
Defendant: "Conrad, of course I will be there for your
family. I will help them as much as I can to get thru this, ill
tell them about how amazing their son/brother truly was"
. . .
Victim: "Idk I'm freaking out again"
Victim: I'm overthinking"
Defendant: "I thought you wanted to do this. The time is
right and you're ready, you just need to do it! You can't keep
living this way. You just need to do it like you did last time
and not think about it and just do it babe. You can't keep
doing this every day"
Victim: "I do want to. but like I'm freaking for my
family. I guess"
Victim: "idkkk"
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so.6 The theme of those text messages can be summed up in the
phrase used by the defendant four times between July 11 and July
Defendant: "Conrad. I told you I'll take care of them.
Everyone will take care of them to make sure they won't be alone
and people will help them get thru it. We talked about this,
they will be okay and accept it. People who commit suicide
don't think this much and they just do it"
6 At various times between July 4, 2014, and July 12, 2014,
the defendant and the victim exchanged several text messages:
Defendant: "You're gonna have to prove me wrong because I
just don't think you really want this. You just keeps pushing
it off to another night and say you'll do it but you never do"
. . .
Defendant: "SEE THAT’S WHAT I MEAN. YOU KEEP PUSHING IT
OFF! You just said you were gonna do it tonight and now you're
saying eventually. . . ."
. . .
Defendant: "But I bet you're gonna be like 'oh, it didn't
work because I didn't tape the tube right or something like
that' . . . I bet you're gonna say an excuse like that"
. . .
Defendant: "Do you have the generator?"
Victim: "not yet lol"
Defendant: "WELL WHEN ARE YOU GETTING IT"
. . .
Defendant: "You better not be bull shiting me and saying
you're gonna do this and then purposely get caught"
. . .
Defendant: "You just need to do it Conrad or I'm gonna get
you help"
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12, 2014 (the day on which the victim committed suicide): "You
just [have] to do it."
Cellular telephone records that were presented to the grand
jury revealed that the victim and defendant also had two
cellular telephone conversations at the time during which police
believe that the victim was in his truck committing suicide.7
The content of those cellular telephone conversations is only
available as reported by the defendant to her friend, Samantha
Boardman. After the victim's death, the defendant sent a text
message to Boardman explaining that, at one point during the
Defendant: "You can't keep doing this everyday"
Victim: "Okay I'm gonna do it today"
Defendant: "Do you promise"
Victim: "I promise babe"
Victim: "I have to now"
Defendant: "Like right now?"
Victim: "where do I go?  "
Defendant: "And u can't break a promise. And just go in a
quiet parking lot or something" (emphasis added).
7 One call, at 6:28 P.M. on July 12, came from the victim's
cellular telephone and the other, at 7:12 P.M., came from the
defendant's cellular telephone. Each call lasted over forty
minutes.
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suicide, the victim got out of his truck because he was
"scared," and the defendant commanded him to get back in.8
It was apparent that the defendant understood the
repercussions of her role in the victim's death. Prior to his
suicide, the defendant sought (apparently unsuccessfully) to
have the victim delete the text messages between the two, and
after learning that the police were looking through the victim's
cellular telephone, the defendant sent the following text
message to Boardman: "Sam, [the police] read my messages with
him I'm done. His family will hate me and I can go to jail."
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