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1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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tehinternet posted:

I've got an EVGA GTX1070 FTW, what -if any- are the risks to overclocking memory on a 1070? What is a decent target? I've been arbitrarily sitting at +500mHz while at a 70% power target and underclocking the GPU 200mHz to decent effect.

tia

Historically you are at higher risk of sudden heart failure than damaging memory with OC on modern GPU's

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1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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tehinternet posted:

So you're saying...

...to the MOOOOOOOON!?

You cant even change the voltage for memory anymore so go hogge wilde!!

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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tehinternet posted:

I'd double check the amount of power you're using, I remember the 900 series being pretty power hungry for the performance you get.

Its a 150 watt or less card if you dont OC it iirc. Even at $2 a day thats worth it many times over as long as a third card works in the computer

Got my second cashout today. Im going to start holding onto it for fee purposes but im quite glad it hasnt been a scam so far!! Thanks OP!!!

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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What a world we live in. I'm converting electricity into fake money with my video game card but I should uncheck a box so i dont ... mine... childporn... distribution... and this is a real thing

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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noooo i just put down a mortage on the condition that my 1080 stays at $4 a day for 30 years

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Alright boys

time to do some gaming cryptocurrency planet killing child porn sharing mining

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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oh no those have been there so long I forgot about them now Im embarassed to out myself :smith:

HEY THERE thisisAnthonywithRevzillawhereYoucanWatchDecideandMinne here with you today to turn your hard earned cryptocoins into 'zillacash at a hash rate you can afford

1gnoirents fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Jul 6, 2017

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Alpha 2.0.0.8 was released. Have to redo settings and benchmark but it saves the last wallet address. My 1080ti went up 74 cents and 45 cents with my 1080 with the same miner it was running just 5 minutes before. Dont know if coincidence

https://mobile.twitter.com/NiceHashMining/status/883412525638979586?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Fauxtool posted:

its only barely faster for me and only because I havent figured out how to change intensity. So its running at full tilt instead of 95%

It seems more stable and doesnt cause my GPU driver to fail as much when stopping. The downside is that the list of pools to pick from is much less and I dont see the dual miners which is bad news for 1080ti's

Really :confused: I swear the list is longer

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Something weird happened maybe an hour ago to both my miners. They are in two different machines in two different locations but this happened at the same time. My 1080ti was putting out ~1.9 mBTC a day and my 1080 was doing ~1.6. The power usage graph, temperatures, etc are generally constant and I have a good idea what they always are. Suddenly the power usage started fluctuating a lot, I actually noticed it because the miner sitting next to me started making audible variable coil whine that matched up with the power usage graph. The temperature dropped 4 degrees, the core clock dropped a bit where its no longer boosting as much as it was, and on both machines and the output dropped about 0.4 mBTC. I restarted them, changed miners, and it nothing seems to have "fixed" it.

Now the GPU usage graphs still show pegged at 100% and the mining rates don't seem off either. It's weird to me that this is happening in two different places with different miners on different cards ... I'm not sure what to make of it.

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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craig588 posted:

This is unrelated, but if you want to test something with your 1080 for me try downloading the latest build of Nvidia Inspector https://ci.appveyor.com/project/Orbmu2k/nvidiaprofileinspector/build/artifacts and disabling Cuda - Force P2 state under section 5 - Common (If you haven't used Nvidia inspector before make sure you hit apply in the top right corner). See if the driver obeys that setting and changes your memory speed from 4514 back to 5004 while running Nicehash. I don't have Nicehash installed anymore because it's not worth it for me with my power costs anymore or I'd test it myself, but I'd love to finally find a reliable way to speed up everyones memory on Pascal cards.

Yeah that totally did that, it bumped it up to 5000 immediately. It also reset the memory OC in Afterburner to 0, what the heck is that about



My original issue is still ongoing but poof magical 1000 mhz increase in memory speed is sure nice :thumbsup:

craig588 posted:

I don't have the Ti, but I got a Zotac 1080 Amp Extreme and it had the worst fans I've ever had on a high end videocard. The only reason I kept it was because I get GPUs on launch and it was months before anything else was in stock. My solution was replacing the stock fans with some Dell branded ones that were much quieter and pushed a lot more air. I wish I knew the model numbers of them, but all I know is I pulled them out of my salvaged fan box and they just say 12V and the current they draw on them.

I don't know if the Ti cooler is better, but my experience with the normal 1080 version was so poor I'm probably not going to get another Zotac card for at least a couple generations to give them a chance to rethink their cooling solution.

I just saw a video about that particular card and the cooler on the Ti has some other design flaws but at least the fan noise wasn't a big issue it seemed.

Also I've been seeing videos pop up about using liquid metal pastes on GPUs to great result on Pascal cards, might be worth looking into. I'm going to be testing that on both a Gigabyte 1080 G1 (pretty poor fan performance overall) and a EVGA 1080ti SC2 ICX today or tomorrow and see what happens. I have some leftover from Haswell delidding days

1gnoirents fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Jul 10, 2017

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Fruit Chewy posted:

I'm strongly skeptical that liquid metal is really gonna be a huge difference on a GPU vs any good paste. I bet if you replace the stock poo poo with NT-H1 or something you'll see gains too.

Well I'm gonna guinea pig it up for you all. The results I saw were compelling though if they were sponsored videos they were very much pretending like they were not.

I'm personally not worried about those pins, though it should be a concern in general. I've worked with this stuff enough and checked long term performance (and whether if it leaks around or not) where I'm confident I'm not gonna get anywhere near those pins. It's much harder on some delidded CPU's, the pins are practically touching the die itself and its still relatively easy if you're careful about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbFKNTES5zc

There were a couple Pascal vids, there are some that didnt work much at all (FE) and some that worked much better

edit: it also helps that I already know and have data on what paste does on like the last 15 gpus, including at least the 1080 I currently have (which was about 0 degrees or within the margin of error, whereas other cards particularly Kepler cards could get almost 15 degrees from paste alone but its completely brand dependent and card specific even). I should have lead in with the fact I'm a GPU repasting whore and I used to beg people to do the same here so this is well within my comfort zone

1gnoirents fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Jul 10, 2017

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Gwaihir posted:

I'm not sure about that, but I started getting GPU crashes a few days after re-pasting my laptop. Opened it back up and found a miniscule drop had migrated out from the GPU and was resting against the side of one of the memory chips. I was able to extract it with some compressed air and alcohol wipes, and haven't seen a crash for a while while stress testing my GPU's vram, so I might have lucked out, but yikes.
I'd taped off the non-die area for GPU and CPU of course, but I guess that's not really a great guarantee in a laptop that might not always sit flat and move around to any degree. It was annoying enough that I really wouldn't want to use it in any use case where it would be at all possible for the liquid metal to come back in to contact with anything sensitive, aka outside of an IHS that you re-seal after re-pasting.

Maybe that's a problem down to how I applied it? Possible, but given the alternative of a typical good paste that isn't conductive like arctic MX4 or w/e that can't gently caress up your stuff, I just don't see the point in risking it.

e:



I would absolutely look in to some way to seal off your GPU die to prevent any of the liquid metal from escaping. IIRC, the desktop cards usually have a shim around the edge of the chip to keep you from crushing the die, so that might serve well enough in terms of maintaining a good seal with the heatsink to keep it from moving at all. Laptop GPU/CPUs don't have the same shim, so stuff can just go wherever.

In the past I've used a non conductive paste on the pins to protect from leakage (and nail polish though that isn't as clean as I thought it'd be), I may as well do that here but for real the pins are really far on these... if I remember. I've decided to do this to the 1080 right now after I get a few baseline temps.

Also I just realized all I've got left is the pastey style of coollabratory stuff on hand so while I might lose some sick gainZ, it is practically foolproof. I am very interested if it has effect on this 1080 because I know there is zero effect with regular paste on this particular card (Gigabyte G1) for certain, which is actually a trend I've seen with Gigabyte cards in general (970, 980, 1070, 1080). Frankly it probably won't do much or anything but I am interested to find out.

The EVGA 1080ti SC2 ICX has so far been untouched so I'll go ahead and do good regular paste then the CLU afterwards. In all likelihood the difference in performance gains will show that it is indeed not worth going liquid metal based but I'm interested to see.

I just realized this is the crypto thread but if I get anything neat results wise I'll crosspost

edit: in progress!

fun fact, teamviewer does not play well with 3dmark or heaven so I had to find a monitor and do it old school :|



edit:

Well I got some baselines however my CLU is simply too old to trust imo. I see some separation. I have some thermal grizzly coming on Wednesday so I'll take it up again then. But, I'm glad in a way, I want to use more "legitimate" stuff anyway

1gnoirents fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jul 11, 2017

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Craptacular! posted:

Apparently Eth hit a milestone wherein the difficulty jumps significantly. You'd think increased difficulty would proportionally increase the value of your workload, but it's not keeping pace because every available GPU in the retail channel for weeks going to this task causes that task to eventually become less and less valuable.

Let's look at some Reddit posters who will remain nameless:



Guys trying to sell used GPUs at above-MSRP rates are hoping that people will keep trying to squeeze blood from the stone for a few more weeks at least, with the biggest dump likely being however long it takes for people buying hardware right now to realize how badly they hosed up.

haha ok so thats whats going on. I noticed the instant it happened

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Butt Discussin posted:

Eagerly awaiting a cheap used video card to replace my ancient GTX 760. Are Craigslist and eBay still my best bet to find one in a few weeks?

SA Mart tends to work out

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Keep in mind guys a huge glaring factor last time with the 290 purge in that during the mining craze it went from a $600 card that was worth $600 against the competition (780ti, although not really, but still) to barely being competitive with a $300 card (970's hit $300 when it all went to hell). I do believe the main reason was huge supply of course but I wouldn't hold your breath trying to pick up 1080's for $200 next month.

The pricing should be good to pretty great if it goes down but people are still going to be willing to pay a closer to retail new prices than not, which in reality was all that happened last time too if you adjust for price/performance at the time.

The perfect storm would be, say, a surprise volta launch at the same time but I dont see that one happening anymore

AMD cards will probably be pretty awesome prices because MSRP was already very low to start with

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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is this an overwatch thread now

im lovin widow since getting a gsync monitor, but I got wasted and posted that in the games forum and got probated because I said rape 90 times

http://i.imgur.com/N8JAZeV.gifv

http://i.imgur.com/Hhfmizp.mp4

http://i.imgur.com/cCHDI9r.mp4

http://i.imgur.com/ulyCtwU.mp4

http://i.imgur.com/Op1dcWd.mp4

1gnoirents fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Jul 11, 2017

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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willroc7 posted:

I'll attempt to get this back on topic.

I've been mining directly to coinbase with nicehash, which I know requires the 0.01BTC minimum payout, but I'm now stuck at around 60% of the way to a minimum payout with profitability dropping off a cliff. Is that ~6mBTC going to just sit in limbo forever unless I mine it up to 10? Any way around that?

No you are screwed, that is the minimum payout. However going from 6 to 10 mbtc isnt going to take a long time even at half today's rate so just mine. Just make sure to stop at 10 mbtc if youre cashing out


Fauxtool posted:

does it really because thats hosed. My fps is high enough gsync should never activate anyways


buy more GPUs to get your gayout above the threshold. That ad you posted would be perfect.

I dunno if it does, but it sure beats cut frames (not the ones you can see either) any day of the week and its nothing like the laughable input lag from vsync so I'm perfectly happy even if it did inject 3ms

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Spatial posted:

seems like an apples to oranges comparison when one option isn't even showing whole frames. overwriting a frame mid-transmission is obviously faster than waiting for it to finish being displayed.

Yes the difference is remarkable, and I had high hopes to start with (and I've played on tons of demos even beforehand) and was still blown away. I used to make frame time graphs that plot every frame to diagnose differences I'd see between cards despite fps saying "90" or whatever and without sync its such a mess, its just so fast you only really see true tearing but you definitely subconsciously can tell when poo poo is stuttering

I mean at a million fps and if I were actually good enough to use every frame I understand turning it off but I cant and *sync is just so pleasant

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Peachfart posted:

I would like to thank Bitcoin, cryptocurrency, and all of you for a good laugh these past few weeks. Keep it up!

bro laugh it up we're changin the world

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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redeyes posted:

Ill just say it. I like screen tearing.

:catstare:

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Stealthgerbil posted:

I think the 7 layer burrito from taco bell is like $2.50. My 1070 is making like 1 1/2 a burrito a day now. Maybe more if I buy the shredded chicken burritos.

we all have to make sacrifices to keep the dream alive

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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I mean thats a solid $20 a day at the lows we've been seeing isnt it... If the profit is $80 each you have a tough call to make. Tbh id probably sell them pocket the $300 and reevaluate what to do with the break even money

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Green Gloves posted:

I dont have a rig that can run more than one card anyway.

Oh lordy then sell asap lol

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Jesus it just happened to me. I was sitting here pondering what to do about my mining pc. Outside of the GPU, its paid itself off already. The 1080 in it was a used card I had in my main PC which cost me exactly $400.

Now, resale of that today would let me break even on that card + maybe $50 or so all said and done. Considering I used it for 5 months, thats a big win overall, and the plan always ways to get a 1080ti and sell off the 1080 anyway and this would put me firmly on top of everything. Mining is "crashing" relative to the craze it was and I don't see it returning to that which would affect near term resale prices probably, but my biggest concern are the Volta rumors in September. Even discounting any kind of over supplied used market thats going to rear end blast its value.

So the intelligent thing would be to cut and run. There is no way around it. But I dont want to... im sitting here doing math months out in advance speculating at $2 a day, $1.50 a day, $1.00 a day, how long would it be before I make enough money to justify not selling today (its a lot of days). But I think I'm gonna do just that. I'm a slave to this now. Tell my family I gave it my best try but I have succumbed to the buttcoin

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Methylethylaldehyde posted:

Sever, sell your card now before the entire butt-economy collapses.

Come August 1st, this thread will be solely devoted to reposting r.buttminer sob stories.

Ok but hear me out...

I sell the 1080. And then buy a 580!

No no no see look ... the value of the 580 will probably lose less money over the same timespan im looking at even despite a used market crash ...

so i should buy 8 of them

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Nybble posted:

Has anyone had any luck selling cards through Amazon? I've done that for other products without issue, but wondering if there's anything I should know before listing it.

Amazon is clamping down on that bigtime with what appears to be pressure from manufacturers to stop 3rd party sales. I can only assume this is because of a high volume of complaints and bullshit scams. But if you've already got a seller account on Amazon, I'd definitely try the Amazon route. Just undercut the lowest price and watch it sell in an hour. If the manufacturer doesn't want you to sell you will be told upfront you need a letter of distribution from the manufacturer

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Wait that was a real post?

:(

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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it could be worse

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Craptacular! posted:

This sucks by the way, and it's amazing neither party has attempted to do anything about it. Back before labor became worthless and kids mowed lawns for other people, they'd make more than that in a summer.

Either way, it looks like you could seriously consider it a hobby and not a job if you use your simple home hardware to mine while you're asleep or whatever, keeping unreliable hours and not doing anything to optimize profit. Between that and the volatility of the market, it's not reliable income.

I can genuinely say this is a hobby, most of us here could I imagine. Im morr invested than many here in that I built a computer for it, but I built a computer for $86 to see if I could. If I was taking this serious, like taxable income serious, Id have bought real equipment and a bunch of gpus the first moment I could because there would have been a very real chance of turning actual income levels of profit. Id worry about taxes then.


Besides, somebody that goes around picking up change off the ground everyday meets those criteria too anyway.

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Themage posted:

So still in the red then

Even at its worst so far that comes out to like 6 days a month to make up for power

I'm getting more convinced that the whole "haha the cost of electricity is more than you make" thing is a huge scam to prevent people from mining buttcoins to make their buttcoins more valuable. I know thats not true, but ... I mean it doenst even come close anymore

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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*rifles through stack of burritos* actually... i am in the red... why did I even start this... I cant afford myp ower bills ... bank took my house ... guys take heed of my warning

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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craig588 posted:

Yeah, I had a couple thoughts about telling people how easy it was and how to overclock memory. In one sense I thought I'd lose money because it's all a competition, but in another I figured I'd rather get people I "know" some extra dollars and possibly get a few cents less myself rather than having as much as possible go to anonymous Chinese millionaires with those huge warehouses.

Last week would have been worth it for me, but it was so on the edge of profitability I didn't want to run for 3 days then have the rate fall and that power was wasted. My break point is at 4 dollars a day, less than that it seems like the odds are good enough that the rate will fall to pointless again. Technically I could be profitable as low as 2 dollars a day, but I'm not going to put in the effort for like 10 dollars a week of profit, it still takes like a half hour to cash out.

was that the one you told me about <3 ?

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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oh yeah lol

*straps in in the most uncaring way possible*

edit: Well all I've noticed is nicehash is putting out garbage numbers atm despite the value of various currencies appear to be rising, and also coinbase wont allow me to sell though theyve been warning about that for 2 months now

1gnoirents fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Aug 1, 2017

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Green Gloves posted:

I bought a MSI Armor RX 580 8gb for $270 on Newegg like three weeks ago. I sold it thinking the market would tank any moment ;( But Ebay prices are well under $400 now. But in hindsight that might be the best price for a 580 for sometime if things dont change and I was seriously on the fence on keeping as I dont have a card atm.

Get out while you can !! Go outside!!! Run!

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Lol I meant literally outside because you said you had no GPU at all. Free yourself!

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Is anybody else seeing the wallet balance as zero in nicehash and coinbase despite actively mining?

edit: I just re entered the addresses and now its working...... from zero. Lost a loving week over that

1gnoirents fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Aug 6, 2017

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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im a dummy who built a separate computer for this and its half paid off in almost two months ($513 "invested") and thats including a G1 1080 sitting in it. If I only bought a server farm as well :mad:

1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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Fauxtool posted:

not if you are spending it on burritos, those dont appreciate. Its just poop

for now. only a fool wouldnt be holding onto their bms in a safe

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1gnoirents
Jun 28, 2014

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fake news

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