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Fauxtool posted:you should probably throw out your phone and disconnect from the internet too if you want to be really safe. Its a risk but so is going outside Honestly. Back up any data you can't afford to replace to a big mechanical drive and disconnect it before you get started. Anything else you lose is probably softened by the cash cushion you've made. Yes, that means you're buying hardware due to your mining habit and that's a step to moron-dom, but this one gets an exemption because you should have loving backups anyway.
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Just out of curiosity, how much electricity does it use relative to sitting here posting on the forums, or goofing around in Overwatch or something? The only halfway reasonable offers on GPUs are being snapped up so hard I feel like I need to pay too much for one and mine with it until I've reach equilibrium with how much I was willing to spend. I told myself I did the right thing here but the Steam sale is on and I want to get some games happening here.
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Jun 24, 2017 03:02
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My electricity is pretty expensive, my point is my computer idles through much of the day anyhow because even without games I can't stop making GBS threads up threads with bad posts on this forum. Does mining use substantially more?
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Jun 24, 2017 04:19
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:This mining poo poo just can't last much longer, can it? It's just a huge waste of resources. Because gambling keeps my local economy afloat, I've been thinking about how some of the local companies that operate casinos here and abroad have been grumbling about how their Chinese business was impacted by a decision from the PRC to not allow gobs and gobs of money to be taken by citizens out of the country (including China-owned protectorates like Hong Kong and Macau.) One of our local companies wound up under investigation due to a bunch of "junket" travel agency types who circumvented it, opening a presence in China and in the US and basically took a ton of your money back home in China, you travel to the US, and then they'd give you a ton of money here. I'm thinking cryptocurrency is how these rich fucks are continuing to gamble more of their fortune than The People's Communist Republic allows them to. I can't wait to see how many millions this fucker is going to lose if this is actually happening, since at some point someone's going to take the BTC/Eth/Whatever from the big-money gamblers and just disappear.
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Jun 24, 2017 23:25
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Weatherman posted:with the description "almost-new, hardly-used <whatever>" with the self-justification "Well these cards are designed for gaming and I hardly used them for gaming so it's true"? I did the opposite. Called my gaming GPU for six months lightly used when selling it to a miner, because compared to a mining 24/7 rig it is. It's even got one of those coolers where the fans don't spin when idling, so the part most likely to break hasn't been used much.
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Jun 25, 2017 03:29
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Stealthgerbil posted:All that matters is can you buy drugs from the darknet with them? That is the only reason people care about cryptocurrencies and really its only bitcoin because that is what the dark net sellers want. Bitcoin has become too difficult to mine with unless you have serious power. Etherium is designed to always be mine-able with consumer equipment and prevent a horsepower arms race to solve increasingly complex math problems faster and faster. The problem is, they're basically at peak efficiency as every available mid-range card comes into the pool and appeared to be destined to for the forseeable future over the past few weeks. The flaw comes in who is buying this stuff, and it's not Darknet people necessarily. I almost guarantee it's popular for Chinese tycoons who want to export more money than Beijing allows. I can tell you that Vegas casinos already had a big business slowdown last year when "junket operators" that used to handle this for the Chinese players who pack the Strip's high roller salons were cracked down upon. Cryptocurrency is almost certainly seen as another answer due to it's poor regulation. But as tons and tons of hardware comes online making the coin at a rapid rate, the people handling these purchases can ask less and less for each coin, and the amount of processing going into mining is probably accelerating faster than the flow of money.
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Jun 27, 2017 03:02
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By the end of 2018, I will no longer have to work and live entirely off money made by not using my gaming rig to play video games. Mid-range video cards will cost as much as three and a half years annual income, and people who sold their cards in the foolish rush of june 2017 will be looked down upon as society's dregs, the fools who wielded power in their hands and voluntarily threw it away.
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Jun 27, 2017 08:04
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1gnoirents posted:If they have outputs, what exactly is the difference? poo poo if those are any cheaper than their "gaming" counterparts I dont see much reason to get a more expensive card with outputs you wont need Warranty, motherfucker. They also can use different parts, louder cooling fans, maybe longer lasting parts that consumers wouldn't want in their home rig because the bearings make a slight vibration hum or something.
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Jun 27, 2017 23:31
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xthetenth posted:(yeah, weird purchasing decisions happen. I don't want to know how many 1080 Tis are hooked up to 60 fps 1080p screens, let alone TN panels.) Some people can't afford to go all-in at once. Also it's a wise bet games will get more effects-laden and geometrically complex even at 1080p. E3 demos convinced me to buy a 1070 instead of a 1060, and my display is a 1080/60 television.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:12
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xthetenth posted:Yeah, I've got a friend who's got a better screen in the queue. I just get unreasonably mad about people who don't respect monitors. Having reached my mid 30s I'm now comfortably into "1080p with vsync is good enough for anything." I considered a high refresh rate monitor for Overwatch because I like responsiveness and hate tearing in that sort of game, but that was the only game I considered it for and decided it wasn't important enough. Nothing is going to bowl me over like going from software-rendered Quake to hardware Quake did, so I buy the best possible screen my PlayStation supports and make my PC use that. I'll probably get a 4K freesync monitor when PS5 comes out and not care about higher refresh than 60 unless Sony supports it.
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Jun 29, 2017 00:34
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Shifty Pony posted:Actually you would probably be best off upgrading your CPU before the GPU. I was running an AMD FX-4100 with my 1060 and it was horrifically CPU bottlenecked. Hopefully Coffee Lake will cause prices to drop on current generation Intel CPUs. Inkwell, I'm with this guy. I was running a GTX 660 until January on my 3770K machine, and went to an RX 470 with twice as much VRAM for basically no benefit in Overwatch (on a 60hz TV). I'm sure I'd have seen benefits if I ran Doom on Ultra or something, but I never got around to it before I sold it in the mining craze. I could still happily use my 660 today on many games I like if I hadn't sold it, but your CPU I think is ages below mine, and mine hasn't been state of the art since 2013. Get your Ryzen 5 up and going, and buy a GPU for Black Friday deals or something. Don't be like me: the guy on iGPU wishing for a $350 1070 but willing to bite on a $375 one.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:05
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You got the posts mixed up. The guy whose looking at upgrading is running an old Intel quad core Yorkdale from 2008, and wants to put a 1070 FE into it. That's almost this bad.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:41
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Stealthgerbil posted:Don't forget all of the empty boxes so the guy can resell the burnt out overworked videocards to everyone in a few months. If you ask other people on SA, you should buy one for pennies off the dollar from them at that point and consider them the poor sucker. I don't know what to think as a guy with money and a wish for an affordable GPU in the future. EDIT: Could they maybe afford some tables to put these rigs on so they don't ignite the carpet and burn your house down? I bet you anything these assholes are renting, too. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Jun 30, 2017 21:27
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So, you built a machine for mining. It's a dumb machine, but building a machine for mining is dumb so you didn't put much skin in the game. Wise idea. But, you're returning your 1070 to Best Buy (where presumably you didn't pay more than MSRP for it) so you can put in a 1080, which is worse for mining than the 1070. Why not keep the 1070 and sell the 1080? True bitfuckers would want that fast RAM.
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Jul 1, 2017 02:42
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The problem, at least as far as where I live, is the heat generated. If you live in the desert, you're already cooling your house down constantly without mining. Our electricity is cheap enough that mining would be a reasonable way to make back the greater-than-MSRP surcharges on GPUs right now. Except then I'd have to run two 20-year-old inefficient air conditioners even harder to not die of heat stroke from the resulting hot air.
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Jul 1, 2017 21:37
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Gobbeldygook posted:this is for commercial copyright infringement and distribution of child pornography. The Something Awful Forums > Serious Hardware/Software Crap > The Cryptocurrency Thread: sexual assault with a miner
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Jul 5, 2017 18:44
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Apparently Eth hit a milestone wherein the difficulty jumps significantly. You'd think increased difficulty would proportionally increase the value of your workload, but it's not keeping pace because every available GPU in the retail channel for weeks going to this task causes that task to eventually become less and less valuable. Let's look at some Reddit posters who will remain nameless: quote:Just saw this today.... not feeling very good... gently caress quote:I already stopped. End of the road folks. Guys trying to sell used GPUs at above-MSRP rates are hoping that people will keep trying to squeeze blood from the stone for a few more weeks at least, with the biggest dump likely being however long it takes for people buying hardware right now to realize how badly they hosed up.
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Jul 11, 2017 04:44
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Fauxtool posted:EVGA will let you transfer a warranty but only if the card was registered within 90 days of purchase. The ones on ebay probably wont be but check. EVGA is known for having very good customer service and an RMA process superior to MSI (which I had no problem with personally) and especially Asus/Gigabyte. As a result they're one of the most commonly purchased new brands in the GPU thread for goons to buy then flip. Wouldn't be surprised if they'll work with you on a case by case basis anyway.
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My point is that while it should not be expected, I would also not expect my card to break but if it did they might work it out for you given the near-sterling reputation for an AIB. It's not like EVGA gets much out of card registrations beyond marketing research.
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Jul 12, 2017 05:40
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The clock on my auction's satisfaction guarantee runs out on the 20th, so if we could stall rock bottom for a week I'd appreciate that.
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I wish I understood the tax rules etc surrounding this poo poo. It seems like "burritos" has become a meme because it doesn't produce enough income to live independently without a job, I get that. But it does seem to produce enough money that if you are without any other income being supported by people that you'll likely have to report it. If you make $700 off it, I imagine you at least have to file for self employment tax, since the trigger on that is $400.
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Jul 21, 2017 03:04
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Twerk from Home posted:The cutoff is $400 for reporting income like that This sucks by the way, and it's amazing neither party has attempted to do anything about it. Back before labor became worthless and kids mowed lawns for other people, they'd make more than that in a summer. Either way, it looks like you could seriously consider it a hobby and not a job if you use your simple home hardware to mine while you're asleep or whatever, keeping unreliable hours and not doing anything to optimize profit. Between that and the volatility of the market, it's not reliable income. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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QuarkJets posted:FYI all income is taxable income, including hobby income. Hope you're keeping records! tbh the people who are mining hard should probably become a business, while the average person just mining in their spare time is not going to make any more money than I find walking along the street and it's not like anybody ever reports that. Hobbyists can also offset hobby income with hobby losses (though they can't go into the negatives) so if you really care about this stuff then use your buttmoney to pay your electric bill and buy a better GPU for your hobby.
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Jul 23, 2017 02:54
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eames posted:Ebay's buyer protection allows these refunds for 180 days. 30 days after delivery date (Source, see 'timelines, replacement and exchange')
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If this happens to you then you have to call Paypal and appeal because they actually state the item has to be returned to you in the same condition as you shipped it out in.
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Surprise Giraffe posted:So GPU prices are staying sky high. Ok. I bought a 1070 for only just over MSRP a few days ago. And Gigabyte must have ramped up supply a bit as they often have a number of models in stock at the lowest price. 10% over MSRP seems to be average which in many stores can be rebuffed somewhat through savvy shopping if you consider sales tax in some places are 8%+ but not every online outlet charges sales tax in every state. And that isn't "sky high", it's just very high relative to the discounted mail-in rebate prices aftermarket brands use to stir demand. Demand is fine. The sky high feeling is still felt strongly on the AMD side, but that's because nobody wants to manufacture a bunch of RX 400/500 boards while Vega is imminent. It's made worse because NVidia basically punted on competing with the 570/580 line, and because those have been hoarded and so expensive there's this huge gap between $150 and $300.
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I mean I just installed and played a few games on the card a miner subsidized heavily for me, so if the bubble wants to get going again in the next six months so I can upgrade to a 1080ti for the cost of a used 1070 and $100, it's a fine time to start.
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Keep in mind Beijing has been putting hard limits on how much money rich people on the mainland can leave with, and the limits are often set lower than they want. This crimps their ability to gamble millions of dollars as whales in Macau. The Chinese government already put a big crackdown on "junket operators" who were essentially behaving as middlemen, allowing Chinese millionaires/billionaires to go to Macau and Vegas (where this was a big deal in the local papers a couple years ago.) I assume buying and selling altcoins is a workaround they're using now. Because in spite of everything, the high-limit Baccarat wealthy Asian tourists favor is still the biggest driver of Vegas casino profits according to their reports to the Nevada authorities.
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QuarkJets posted:Mining is mostly done in China and can be thought of as "purchasing" bitcoins. From there you sell them on an exchange or use them to buy altcoins (such as via nicehash, which since you are buying mining time helps to further obfuscate the money trail). I'd just assume you buy Virtual Bullshit Dollars with Chinese money while you're in China, go to Macau/Vegas/Singapore/whatever, and once there you sell your Virtual Bullshit Dollars for the local currency. Boom, you just moved a million dollars out of China and into the US without PRC authorities being able to trace it.
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1gnoirents posted:Uhhhh lol I don't know where this is headed but I hope it leads to $600 for my 1070.
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Memory seems to be quite sufficient. I have a stock EVGA SC2 cooler, and temps stay around high 60s, very low 70s. My memory clocks are at 4050mhz so I doubt theres a multiplier I'm not taking into account. We have the same make and model. I think we paid a lot for a fancy sensor-laden cooling system but lost the silicon lottery compared to the SSC/FTW people.
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Fauxtool posted:I wouldnt say you lost any sort of lottery, you willingly paid for features that arent actually very important The day I was shopping, it was either this or an FTW which has two clips and uses more power. My electricity bill is very high as things are (which is why I don't mine) but I also buy "factory OC" models because I never do my own OC. Twas a tradeoff. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Sep 2, 2017 |
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I have to imagine sites that aren't making global news being chased around the world by IP law enforcement won't have to resort to this. I switched away from uBlock Origin to AdGuard a few months ago. I wonder if their lists block it (though you can optionally add EasyList, I prefer their own filtering.)
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Sep 22, 2017 02:22
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uBlock Origin is just loading the same EasyList and associated lists that most other blockers do, it's strength was always RAM optimization and faster page loads.
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Sep 25, 2017 10:55
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Slapping a trojan into an open source project isn't as difficult as you might think. The bittorrent client Transmission has had it happen a couple of times now.
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Oct 2, 2017 18:04
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Just curious what that means for the average schmoe with a GPU he isn't much in the winter?
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So to clarify: you can use Coinbase to store coins and cash them out with Gyft without having to send Coinbase a bunch of info? I don’t have any valid photo ID (I’ve never learned to drive cars and my passport expired last month), so just asking for the short term.
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Nov 28, 2017 23:41
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So what do you guys do for fan curves? Just run the card normally or go all-out or lock it at a certain percentage or what?
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Nov 29, 2017 08:39
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Okay after running Nicehash in demo mode for a bit, I don't know why 1070s are/were in demand. $2.53 cents a day is like, woo, every day I get 25% of what a McDonalds employee earns in an hour. And all I have to do is activity that will shorten my $400 GPU's lifespan to 6-24 months. What a deal! 10k/BTC is nice for the people with warehouses still farming bitcoins, but until Ether or one of these altcoins rises you're not actually seeing an appreciable increase in mining. You are, I assume, just holding the results of said mining in a wallet for a while hoping it'll worth a slightly larger gift card in two weeks. Which might not happen because this is bitcoin we're talking about and it goes the wrong way all the time.
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Risky Bisquick posted:0.0016 BTC/day Yeah but this thread is for sensible people using hardware they own for other purposes. You're the outlier we're supposed to mock. Case in point: You're spending over a thousand dollars to buy hardware that you can burn out so it'll make money like, what, the 16 year old at the grocery store who grabs shopping carts from the parking lot does?
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