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maybe also mention in the OP that corbyn just achieved a massive upset against (once again) establishment predictions and polling by doing the exact things that establishment dems refuse to do here lol
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Jun 21, 2017 22:12
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Vox Nihili posted:heres the dude running against Randy "Ironstache" Bryce let me guess, this is the guy the dccc is supporting over Bryce
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Jun 21, 2017 22:16
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*massive, overwhelming evidence to the contrary* "hm... maybe what we need... is more centrism..."
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Jun 21, 2017 22:19
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Not a Step posted:You have got to be loving kidding me what about the modern democrats make you think this is a joke lol
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Jun 21, 2017 22:32
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Condiv posted:is her fighting against singlepayer in her state while claiming she's for trying it on a state by state basis an example of having the awareness necessary to be pushed on the issues, or just two-faced conniving like hillary clinton? it's definitely the latter the democratic party apparatus definitively does not want candidates that support single payer to win democratic primaries
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Jun 21, 2017 23:25
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he could have at least had a full bar lol
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Jun 21, 2017 23:34
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paranoid randroid posted:CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION is like the left's FEMA DEATH CAMPS Except far more probable and realistic, yes
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Jun 22, 2017 00:10
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welp with these responses he has jusg assured he will get zero dnc support
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Jun 22, 2017 17:04
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twitter is a plague upon all our houses
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Jun 23, 2017 19:10
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Dreylad posted:that looks like exactly how you get elected as a leftist in america, assuming he gets through the primary DNC already got their absolute boy tho 
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Jun 26, 2017 20:09
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yankovich is the human embodiment of a cheese curd
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Jun 26, 2017 20:10
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GalacticAcid posted:? but he's not from wisconsin 
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Jun 26, 2017 20:14
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I'm sorry, but does having a vision for the future solve racism? Let's focus on the real issues at hand: why Russia was the biggest factor in the 2016 elections, and how we can improve the ACA. #resist
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Jun 26, 2017 20:16
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well, except that he'll probably be opposed by the dccc
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Jun 26, 2017 20:34
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yankovich is this lukewarm pastiche of not-quite-melted cheese, soft policy, focus-grouped sauerkraut, kosher beef, and no mustard
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Jun 26, 2017 20:36
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Willa Rogers posted:that vox story about sanders led me to the latest KFF survey on healthcare. i think im just gonna flatly not support any dems that do not have single payer/medicare for all as a non-negotiable policy position, they've had multiple good opportunities to make real progress on single payer and instead decided to not support them after all  almost like...they didn't really support it in the first placedone with a party that doesn't believe in universal healthcare tbqh, it's only slightly less important than GW
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Jun 26, 2017 22:08
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ThndrShk2k posted:Lets not even bother to try, all is doomed please don't post closed-door meeting notes from DNC leadership meetings
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Jun 26, 2017 22:43
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all this hyperorbitalization is making me queasy
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Jun 26, 2017 23:04
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:lol what in the gently caress is this quote:We ran an economy-first campaign centered on local prosperity and opportunity. I focused on the development of metro Atlanta into a world-class commercial capital, on affordable higher education and technical training, on research and development to drive innovation in Georgia’s tech sector, on renewal of our transportation infrastructure and a commitment to fiscal responsibility, on pointing out that taxpayers are rightfully upset that the federal government wastes hundreds of billions of dollars per year. sometimes i forget how much CHUDs care about the deficit as though it's some tangible thing that affects their lives every day and lol that this means anything other than cutting from programs like NHS instead of where it should be, the fuckin' military
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Jun 26, 2017 23:06
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Yinlock posted:shifting the conversation to the deficit instead of the debt is an age old rich dude trick and that national debt is nothing like household debt, especially WRT the U.S., but this is still constantly pushed like it means something, something BAD!!! everyone was so austerity crazy and now that's just kinda up and disappeared when it comes to the upper class getting tax breaks, funny that
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Jun 26, 2017 23:21
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:the national debt only means something if the country has very little revenue caused by not getting enough tax revenue from the rich who don't spend much on anything circulating the economy as opposed to everyone else think of the noble job creator tho
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Jun 26, 2017 23:25
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Concerned Citizen posted:hard to really call it a "massive push" when they never even finished the bill. the never passed the funding mechanism through the senate, which would require a 2/3rds vote. and they didn't bother because the governor would just veto it anyway lorbl even with a supermajority of democrats, they continue to find ways to renege on things overwhelming majorities of their constituents want, and here's CC falling over himself with excuses for their actions its far easier said like this: democrats do not want single payer to happen. they have had multiple opportunities and torpedoed them all. Botton line really if you care about getting away from the parasitic healthcare system of the u.s., it sure isnt the Republicans to fix it, but its also very clear now the Democratic party doesnt give a flying gently caress about actual healthcare solutions either
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Jun 27, 2017 20:37
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we need a majority! we need a supermajority! we need a supermajority with the governorship! we need a supermajority with the governorship... of progressives! can u guys still see those goalposts? the dems have carried them so far away I can't even tell if its time for a hail mary or more power o up the gut Seemz to me with supermajorities it woild been smarter to run it up the middle on the one yard line, istead lets try a pass gently caress
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Jun 27, 2017 20:55
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actually in this situation its more like the dems having first and goal at the 1, getting three consecutive false start penalties then deciding to kneel down instead of running a play lol
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Jun 27, 2017 20:58
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Concerned Citizen posted:i don't think anyone here actually believes a supermajority of democrats means there's a supermajority for everything progressives want no matter how much you bleat about it. there's a majority, not a supermajority. you need a supermajority. the only realistic path for such an overhaul is going to be a 2018 initiative so what you're saying is... democrats... ...are worthless?
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Jun 27, 2017 20:59
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Concerned Citizen posted:no one ever said "if we have a supermajority of democrats we will have single payer" ever, you literally just invented that lmao
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Jun 27, 2017 21:06
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GalacticAcid posted:Using house elves at Hogwarts was a longstanding tradition, which kept down costs. lol
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Jun 27, 2017 21:08
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Al! posted:because the other party is actively working to erode civil rights, bankrupt the country, and directly kill millions rather than just waiting for everything to fall apart and hoping their 401ks survive wait im confused, which party's perspective is this again
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Jun 27, 2017 21:09
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but.. incrementalism.. is the light...
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Jun 27, 2017 21:11
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Shear Modulus posted:i mean the california democrats kind of did when they put single payer in their platform seems to me that progressives should probably just split off from the dems at this point, since even a platform plank and supermajority in state legislature isnt enough for single payer apparently, as you now need a majority of progressives
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Jun 27, 2017 21:16
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im wearing a skynet shirt right now working in a creative role in the tech industry mwahahaha
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Jun 27, 2017 21:19
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Concerned Citizen posted:i don't remember the part of the platform that said "every single person who runs as a democrat will agree to everything listed here" oh my god, why even loving vote for democrats, jesus christ
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Jun 27, 2017 21:24
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i try voting for people i think are good based on their support of single payer, but then they turn around and end up not supporting it, which makes them bad! if only there were some kind of test we could apply...
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Jun 27, 2017 21:26
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Serf posted:1000 years of conservative darkness we've gone through at least that much in 158 days of the trump adm, or so my time-compression orb tells me also, we're already getting lesser-evilism by voting democrats anyway, so i guess the enemy of the good is just the bad dems, not the perfect
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Jun 27, 2017 21:31
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Jun 27, 2017 22:26
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:If only there were a candidate who'd run on a strong progressive platform instead of the same watered down liberalism that has crushed the working class for for the past 70 years i mean, there was, the party just decided to go with the watered down liberalism candidate again
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Jun 27, 2017 23:00
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Dreylad posted:I'm pretty sure that could easily become a popular front (heh) against any leftist influence in the democratic party could? it's the status quo
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Jun 28, 2017 00:10
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looks like there needs to be a progressove supermajority for this to happen, cant expect the democrats to adhere to postions theyve supported openly in the recent past 🤔
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Willa Rogers posted:When pressed by Payday Report to explain why they had yet to implement Perez’s pledge, the DNC said that they are still exploring ways to find the means to pay them. well why not just use all the money they're not spending in MT, NE or KS
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