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anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
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first post in the suck zone

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anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
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this tells us everything we need to know, yeah

vote ironstache

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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ironstache for prez (if his voting record ends up good)

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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the fact that you have to get a state driver's license immediately after moving to a new state is kinda dumb and extremely stupid in general

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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Condiv posted:

voter supression is only something dems blame for losing. they don't actually want to fight it

dems have blamed

voter suppression
the electoral college

on like 3/5 previous elections that they've lost

they've proposed nothing to fix these things lol

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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paranoid randroid posted:

based on how well theyre managing the government right now i can only assume an attempt to call a convention would be not so much a train wreck as a train flying off a broken bridge and hitting a passenger zeppelin and then they both plummet into the gorge below and land on a really perplexed cow

it'll be cool when we're vietnam for china and russia except we have nukes and also we have enormous influence over the world economy

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

most 21-29s aren't grad students. like maybe 50k out of some 2 million people

try closer to 200k

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
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sorry, i should restate: that 200k figure is the amount of out-of-state students that would be potentially affected by that disenfranchisement law

that is a shitload of people

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
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my fave part about the suck zone is the neverending willa/whiskey argument

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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abortion is like, 1/4 "free abortion with your next oil change," 1/4 "you should really be careful about that but go ahead," 1/4 "only in the case of rape or incest. only. no other times," and 1/4 "kill anyone who thinks about killing a baby"

most people are pro-choice, but the middle gradient can also be pro life depending on how the question is phrased

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
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IRONSTACHE

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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lol hes straight up some sort of children of the corncob monstrosity, nice

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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"sheered" dave yankovich

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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UHD posted:

has ellison even hinted at wanting the minority lead job

he shouldnt take it. they basically need someone who can take heat and get votes as well as lead. pelosi is decent at the first two, tbh, but her policies are baaaaaad for leadership.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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replacing pelosi seems more like a "we keep dealing with failing centrists and we're going to try and find another applecart to turn until there's fruit on the road," which is fair, i think. keep holding feet to the fire so corporatists get the picture.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
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Shear Modulus posted:

dems forgot that they need to campaign because obama did all of it for them for the past decade

im betting the people still in office have survivorship bias because in reality it was just them having a favorable district or state and every other candidate lost bc of obama

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
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the trick is to have an internal civil war where you primary literally every single candidate. then when there is only one person left standing, they are probably the strongest person to win.

of course, that assumes open and fair primaries lol

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
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sometimes i randomly remember the clintons had literal slaves and did not condemn the practice

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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GalacticAcid posted:

Deep down, Mitt Romney is the professional Democrat's favorite politician.

And poster.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
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im still pro stache

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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louise mensch is the conspiracy theorist right, didnt she admit to being a right wing plant lol

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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SirPhoebos posted:

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/873997106972958720

In the age known then as "The End of History", the land was ruled by a King and Queen.
The Queen was incredibly ambitious, and looked forward to the day she would rule alone.
"I will craft the most perfect plot, and my ascendancy will be an inevitability.
"And though my foes will see it coming, they will be powerless to stop it."

When the King passed, the Queen moved her court to a great island citadel.
There she marshaled her forces, though she ignored the troubles of her kingdom.
When all was ready, her great and splendid host marched from her stronghold,
Only to be wiped out in a cornfield by a half-drow Warlord.

The Warlord desired unity, and made the Queen his advisor.
Biting her tongue, the Queen convinced the Warlord that she should be restored to the throne.
In time, her forces were restored, with the singular goal of achieving this one goal.
It was this dedication that allowed her army to barely bring the quarrelsome people to heel.

"At last!" she exclaimed, breaking a pane of glass to commemorate her final triumph to come.
"It is my turn to rule, and all signs point to ultimate victory.
"The people will love and cherish my reign of reason and enlightenment."
Those were her last words as she was decapitated by a red hat.

theres no way she didnt see george clooney sell his tequila company for 1b and go "i want in on that"

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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Raskolnikov38 posted:

no this is still just the "they hired a lawyer" story

it was originally published by IBT, an extremely pro wall street publication, btw

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
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for real dont commit crimes and also dont do immoral stuff

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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Al! posted:

sometimes its immoral not to commit a crime #wow #woah

well yeah if you have to choose between one or the other, always pick crime

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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Joementum posted:

my prediction is that neither Hillary nor Bernie will launch a formal 2020 campaign

my track record with predictions in 2016 was extremely good btw

joementum, real talk, what are your current bets for 2020? i know nothing matters, but you know a lot about politics and have better opinions than most people imo

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
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Joementum posted:

oh right, I forgot. it's gonna be zuck and we're all hosed

https://twitter.com/SimonMaloy/status/878447102384369668

i still feel like hes gunning for an independent run, triangulated solely on what independents think on facebook

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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Venom Snake posted:

Id be far more worried about zuck if centrist technology obessors were good at anything other than losing

he still talks like a total doofus

which is exactly what the centrists want so idk

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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Weeping Wound posted:

ZUCK SONE: whom must I pay to make this stop

me, pay me.

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Jun 27, 2008

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Uncle Wemus posted:

californias single payer bill has been perma-shelved by a "longtime supporter of single payer"

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/california-democratic-speaker-killed-his-own-partys-plan-for-single-payer-healthcare/

of course

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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lol democracy comes at the low low price of like 150 grand

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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Willa Rogers posted:

gdi.

the drug company donations are the worst, bc while docs would have to adjust to universal rates (and are somewhat used to it bc of medicaid, medicare and insurers setting their rates already), pharma knows it's gonna have to bite it if single-payer ever passes at the state level.

medical device manufacturers too

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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comedyblissoption posted:

lobbying the government has an absurdly high ROI. it's amazing for how cheap government officials go. the amount of corporate money that goes into elections is tiiiiny compared to the influence it buys.

house members of both parties spend a majority of their working day fundraising from the wealthy

see like, if someone wanted to bribe me, id probably do it for like, at least a million and some swag

the issue is like, there's a race to the bottom when it comes to bribery too. wow, even congressional bribes are going down under capitalism. next then you know john mccain will kill all the poors for a cuban sandwich.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
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Joementum posted:

single payer would be a huge boon for business which would no longer have to worry about contracting to offer insurance to employees

might result in higher payroll tax tho

couple pages late but the big advantage for not having single payer for a business in an enormous country (this doesn't really work as well in densely packed ones) is you can use termination as a threat to the wellbeing of someone's family

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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UHD posted:

I'm pretty sure fuckerberg is going to run but not sure enough to toxx on it

it seems like billionaires have two modes of personality transition: they turn into hideous evil greed barons or they turn into benevolent money messiahs and i could genuinely see him becoming the latter. in which case he might actually be a good president.

that said, lol, im not taking that risk if i have to. hes also a total sociopath doofus so i think even if he tries to become the latter he wont be good at it.

that said, maaaaaaybe running on and implementing just "the things that more people want" could result in a net gain for the country so idk lol who cares we're all hosed

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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Darkman Fanpage posted:

im gonna kidnap zuckerberg and brainwash him into being a socialist

go for it dude

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Jun 27, 2008

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Rand alPaul posted:



FDR's tax rate was the best tax rate, quote if you're down.

fyi

$100 in 1944 equals $1,387.54 in 2017.

unless that was already taken into account?

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Jun 27, 2008

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Shear Modulus posted:

i assume that's what "adjusted for inflation" means

yup i missed that, why i asked.

dang.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

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Willa Rogers posted:

yet nary a dailykos single-payer thread goes by without that trope of "why can't we have something like the swiss system instead?"

like, medicare part b supplemental insurance is a bunch of private insurers adminstering plans that are cost-controlled, as providers are cost-controlled under medicare, and I'd be super-happy if everyone could purchase these plans.

and once again I'll point out that medicare part b supplemental plans are profitable to insurers--even with government's cost controls--while insurers are losing money on obamacare plans for individuals. Dems can't even lie and say their corporate owners won't allow them to have single-payer bc within five years or sooner private insurers are gonna start demanding it.

so ur saying...... try not to die for about 5-10 years and everything will be good?

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anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
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UHD posted:

it's been broken since launch

yeah, because a white supremacist founded it

whoops

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