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Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Captain_Maclaine posted:

Heller is one of those authors that had one really good book in him, and never managed to really make the lightning strike again afterward.

i read that he had a really great quote about that where someone asked him how come he hadn't written anything nearly as good as catch-22 since then and he was like "well nobody else has either"

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Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Phi230 posted:

I also read roadside picnic

I'm reading Blood Meridian now

blood meridian owns

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Gringostar posted:

who is more of a mess/waste?

[ ] dems
[ ] jeb!

jeb! is such a low energy waste that hes basically an honorary dem

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



lol wait they have mark "hiking the appalachian trail" sanford on there what the christ

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



born to succ
world is a compromise
i am decorum man
72638293628 data centers

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



russia bamboozled the dems into selling out the dreamers and demobilize their entire base and also not promising to legalize weed

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



well at least he was honest at the end that the only reason he wants the guy to be confirmed is because having taught a future scotus justice would make his CV better

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Awww chucky ducky!

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



the republicans already packed the court when they stole the garland seat and denying that isn't going to change that fact

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Main Paineframe posted:

the entire history of the Reconstruction amendments has been a ceaseless struggle between Congress and the courts, one that's usually been pretty one-sided due to political division in Congress

those amendments explicitly grant Congress the simple and broad power to pass laws to enforce them as they see fit, likely for the explicit purpose of preventing the Court from using "states rights" as an excuse to strike down civil rights laws. the Supreme Court absolutely never gave the slightest gently caress about that, and spent the next 150 years trying to narrow and erode that authority whenever possible. and with the Southerners allowed back in Congress, there was never sufficient political will to challenge the Court over it

in addition, dont forget that the court's power to nullify laws in the first place is not mentioned anywhere in the constitution and was wholly invented by the supreme court themselves in marbury v madison

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



gradenko_2000 posted:

the point is that you're not going to lose anymore if you're actually good at politics


WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

yeah, the important thing to remember is that the republicans are already a minority party and the democrats are the majority: the important thing for the democrats to do is to make it so that their majorities actually translate into holding power

both parties have been selling out their voters and going back on promises so long that all of our important political thinkers have convinced themselves that voters getting pissed off at the party in power for breaking their promises and making everything worse and not showing up for the next election, leading to the other party sailing in, and this process repeating every election or two like clockwork, is the natural order of things

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



once again you libs are overlooking the many brave men and women who gave their lives keeping america safe in the war on christmas

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



turns out that ocasio already said yesterday what every loving dem should be saying

https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1016512829535539200

lol that dems have given up on saying bad things about a historically unpopular president as an election strategy

Grondoth posted:

Yeah, even history textbooks say "yeah this war's causes were made up, this is an example of Yellow Journalism where the press is used to fabricate events to manufacture consent"

"Good thing we learned our lesson and that this can never happen again"

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1016818886296113152

bernie!!!!!!!!!

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



GunnerJ posted:

OK, but on the other hand, we'll regularly say the Dems hosed up for assuming that Clinton would win in 2016, or that otherwise various measures that could be easily undone by GOP victories didn't matter. Not doing this might have enabled "planning on what happens when the pendulum swings back the other way."

edit: whoops, this is from way back.

the difference is the dems assumed hillary would win when there was no reason for them to be that confident that trump couldnt win except pure ideology. the polling was basically 50-50

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



the failing fivethirtyeight

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Jun 9, 2010



Theris posted:

Is there any evidence that voters who would be inclined to vote for Manchin/Donnelly/etc but won't if they don't vote to confirm Trump's SC picks actually exist?

chuck schumer heard from his imaginary friends that they would

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Serf posted:

instead of packing the court, maybe we clear the court and staff it according to our liking

impeaching gorsuch wouldnt even be a hard sell since his taking the seat was a clear violation of the unwritten constitution that has kept the country from falling apart for 250 years

then impeach kavanaugh because he was appointed by an actual criminal

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



who was it that kept posting saying that myers was better and are they still doing it after she said ice shouldnt be abolished and ironstache said it should

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



abolishing the kiddie koncentration kamps is too extreme. i say we reform them

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



i was convinced by brainwashing from russian fake news that my healthcare was too fuckin expensive

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



the gary johnson voters were the ones who were republicans but thought trump was too crude and hillary was EXTREMELY CLEAR that republicans who disliked trump were supposed to vote for her. the kasichbros and rubiobros didnt live up to their end of the deal.

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Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



joe crowley, who according to the official state ballot is NOT EVEN A DEMOCRAT,

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



lol i originally thought crowley was just stupid and didnt think to take his name off the ballot but it looks like he actually planned to try and lieberman ratfuck the election and didnt think anyone would notice or care which is even dumber

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Taintrunner posted:

there could never be an insurgent army of centrists because they’d much rather fund and arm Nazis to do the decorum violating dirty work

historically, this happens and then the nazis immediately stab the centrists in the back and purge them all too

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



who are the succ dems running against teachout

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



consolidate the posting centers

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



https://twitter.com/andrewperezdc/status/1017535424535728129

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



etalian posted:

Remember how PP appealed to the Trump administration to help them crush the attempts by their workers to organize a union?

just about every university in the country is also doing this lol

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



it wasnt planned parenthood that endorsed hillary. it was the planned parenthood pac. the actual doctors in the entirely seperate entity of planned parenthood itself of course had no say in the matter.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Joementum posted:

17 whole seats! don't exhaust yourself there, DLCC

https://twitter.com/PoliticsWolf/status/1017788591831855110

i think they deserve a pat on the back for finding all of the 17 total republicans in the country who want to change their vote to democrat over trump

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010




lmao

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



SKULL.GIF posted:

lmao that hillary's emails actually were a national security issue and probably cost the election

https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1017826412672311296

it extremely owns that russians and republicans are literally stealing campaign analytics data and elections but neera and the other dems are spending their time yelling at journalists for reporting on lovely things they said that make them look like assholes instead

1000 times more concerned about their personal brands than the country or their party

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Venom Snake posted:

TV adds = $$$ for the grifter class

yeah mailers and TV ads are done by dem consultants who charge handsome fees but theres very little room for a consultant to insert himself between a campaign and facebook

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



it sounds like hes trying to run as a faux progressive but is just way less savvy at it than say gillibrand or khanna or even harris, and thinks people will still be fooled by saying youre progressive without any specifics

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



CheeseSpawn posted:

There was an interview on Sam's show with Mary Wheeler, who is a part of that site. She has some interesting speculation on how this all could play out. One of the more notable points she made was the Steele Dossier was disinformation bait by the Russians. Sam does says the "pee" tape is real at the end though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klEe6ryBXbc&t=1321s

emptywheel is Marcy Wheeler's nom de blog and she has been a really good reporter on the Mueller investigation, and also NSA spying and intelligence courts


hell yeah give that goon who set it up a medal

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



here's what wheeler says

https://mobile.twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1017948112080564224

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Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



the democrats are refusing to say its watergate. they are following along with trumps narrative that the russian govt did the whole thing by themselves and that there was NO COLLUSION

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