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Oct 27, 2010

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

Even for governments nuclear is getting pretty non-competitive with solar given the latter's continual price collapse. Plus since the whole global warming thing is fairly time-dependent it sure is nice to be able to put up shitloads of solar panels almost immediately as opposed to waiting for your nuclear plant to pass inspection in like 2035.

I'm not anti-nuclear or anything but the ultimate goon wet dream for whatever reason is to be able to click nuclear plants down on the map like in SimCity 2000, which won't happen for generations even if everything is nationalized.

Also dems are trash

the thing is that we will never be able to completely replace coal and natural gas using just solar and wind

we need nuclear too, and we need a lot of it. yes, even if it's more expensive. yes, even if the negative externalities would affect the people near the plant rather than the people near the solar panel factory. yes, it takes loving forever to build a nuclear plant...but that's why we should start building out nuclear now rather than waiting until it's genuinely urgent. also, that sort of unprofitable but crucial infrastructure development is the exact kind of thing that should be handled by the federal government rather than private industry

we also need a sane solution to nuclear waste. but that's a very solvable problem, it's just that there's no political will to solve it. imo, anyone who wants to get all NIMBY about nuclear waste storage should be given a choice between taking a bath in solar panel manufacturing waste or swimming across a coal slurry holding pool. if they do it and survive, then we can listen to their complaints about nuclear waste

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Oct 27, 2010

hm. she's calling for the top three House Democrats to retire

the fourth-ranking House Democrat is already gone

she's the fifth-ranking House Democrat

:thunk:

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Oct 27, 2010

The Nastier Nate posted:

eh, seems fine to me. if the DNC want's to make some rich rear end in a top hat a SUPER DELEGATE cause it makes him feel important and more willing to be parted from his money, that's fine I guess, better than where we are now because they don't have any real power.

actually, they have lots of real power. this just removes their ability to directly vote for the presidential nomination. there are still lots of other things they can do, it's just that those aren't nearly as exposed to the public eye because they're not directly related to the presidential election, and therefore aren't getting any backlash

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Oct 27, 2010

notice that he doesn't actually say Crowley will vacate the ballot or refuse to campaign, nor does he indicate that he wants either to happen

he just says Crowley will "do the right thing", but doesn't specify what that "right thing" is

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Oct 27, 2010

that guy is lying when he says he's a DSA member

he's a career lanyard. in 2014, he worked in the campaigns of a homophobe who opposed gay marriage and a career banker fresh from Goldman Sachs. he's currently the Communications Director for the NY State Assembly

i loving love LinkedIn, because no matter how hard these machine types try to pretend to be regular people, they can't resist putting every last detail of their elite schooling and nepotistic work history on the internet for the whole world to see

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Oct 27, 2010

anime was right posted:

The end game here is probably to find a way to disqualify AOC from being on the ge ballot but crowley's name stays on

endgame was probably just to lay low and wait for her to wind down her campaign machine, then do a sudden full-court media blitz and go back into full campaign mode in September or October, hoping to catch her off guard and start off strong with a surprise attack

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Oct 27, 2010
that only covers pocan. what about the other two Dems behind that bill, what's their excuse

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Oct 27, 2010

docbeard posted:

Same thing applies to them, I guess.

They should probably be doing a better job of explaining their cunning plan, of course.

pretty sure that logic only applies to the person who actually introduces the bill. the other two can't use that excuse

mastershakeman posted:

What the heck is fbr

#FollowBackResistance, or something like that

basically they're promising that if you are anti-Trump and follow them and retweet all their poo poo, they'll follow you back and retweet all of your poo poo. this will help to #resist Trump by making sure ineffectual twitter #resistance types will have a lot of follows and retweets, which will make them feel good about themselves and satisfy twitter warriors who dream of being #influencers and imagine that posting the blue wave emoji a dozen times will be the thing that destroys TRUMP once and for all

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Oct 27, 2010

Concerned Citizen posted:

only 25% of americans want to abolish ice so i think there's actually no political benefit at all to "campaigning hard on it."

counterpoint: shut up, CC

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Oct 27, 2010

Thoguh posted:

That's not what most people mean though. It's the boogyman that the GOP is throwing up and the handful of people in this thread who want to abolish borders are probably an appreciable percentage of the overall population that supports that idea.

only because the media and political establishments have decreed it to be an unacceptable idea, and so no one with a voice has the guts to make the very real case for abolishing our current border control laws

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Oct 27, 2010

Joementum posted:

17 whole seats! don't exhaust yourself there, DLCC

https://twitter.com/PoliticsWolf/status/1017788591831855110

one of their targeted seats is in the NY State Senate

which already has a Dem majority, but is controlled by the GOP because of conservative Dems flipping and supporting the GOP instead

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Oct 27, 2010

The Muppets On PCP posted:

kinda curious why all of a sudden dems are having such a hard time with digital campaigns when obama's was pretty decent

obama kept his campaign operation separate from the Dems as a whole, and most of his major campaign staffers have gone through the revolving door into various post-politics positions

for example, Obama's chief digital strategist went on to co-found a global PR firm. the Obama campaign CTO ended up as CEO of a Google-funded startup that provides digital analytics for NGOs. the Obama campaign's digital director went on to co-found a communications consulting company with two other Obama campaign alumni. the Obama digital organizing director went off to co-found a digital consulting company and an incubator for political technology startups (called Higher Ground Labs, because of loving course it is). the Obama campaign's director of digital analytics is now the CEO of a "boutique analytics firm founded by Obama campaign veterans"

and so on, and so forth. as far as I can tell, basically all of them hit the springboard into private work as soon as Obama's reelection campaign was over

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Oct 27, 2010

Feldegast42 posted:

Yeah she smells the way things are going and is trying to buy more time to fight off the coup

she's setting it after the elections so she can take credit for any seats the Dems pick up in November

i don't buy the "BLUE WAVE 2018" poo poo but it's going to be downright impressive if the Dems somehow manage to end this year with fewer House seats than they started it with, so it's a pretty safe bet for her

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Oct 27, 2010

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

So what is being implied here

that the Russians stole the data and messed with it to gently caress with the Dems campaign strategy?

not even that, just that the Russians stole the data for Hillary's campaign strategy and told the Trump campaign so they'd know where the Hillary campaign would (and wouldn't) be focusing its resources

meanwhile, hillary was flat-out refusing to allow people to campaign in Michigan because she thought it would just draw the Trump campaign's attention there

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Oct 27, 2010

docbeard posted:

I didn't realize the voter ID law in Wisconsin was her fault.

(Heh, remember when Obama said he was gonna spend time fighting voter suppression after the election?)

remember when Obama completely ignored the big pro-union protests in Wisconsin and the Walker recall attempt?

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