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Gotta say Jeff Weaver the owner of the beltways largest comic bookstore really made a splash in politics considering what he was doing up until then. A true poligoon
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Chuck has come out swinging since the great corn cobbing. It'll be interesting how bold that bold platform is He's been keeping the Brother of Bern very close since the election more than likely because he understands the democrats path back to power runs through Bernies message of new deal populism
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Jun 29, 2017 17:54
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docbeard posted:Even the Democratic Party isn't stupid enough to try to primary one of their very few safe house seats from the right. There isn't really any movement behind primarying sitting congressmen from the right
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Jun 30, 2017 18:27
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Karl Barks posted:luv 2 be a democrat this is why I gave up on florida dems
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Jun 30, 2017 18:39
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GalacticAcid posted:lmaoooo She flipped a long time republican district. Essentially she pulled an Ossof but won so her extremely bland unpopular centrism is unsurprising. She plays it up big that she cares a lot about national security but when the people I work with told her that a large part of that is reigning in corporations and reforming acquisitions she suddenly got real silent
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Jun 30, 2017 18:43
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Politician: how do I national security Retired General: well the fact all of our infrastructure is crumbling isn't good and we need that to re-deploy troops and equipment. Politician: but that's not bombing ISIS?????
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Jun 30, 2017 18:46
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GalacticAcid posted:lmao The modern highway system was proposed as a national security asset but nowadays it's commie pink talk to say that fast mobilization requires robust infrastructure.
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Jun 30, 2017 20:23
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By far the most uncomfortable Iv ever seen an establishment dem wrt national security is when I told him that our kurdish allies in the ME are socialists/communists lol edit: imagining having to carefully explain to someone whose worked in politics for 20 years that socialism doesn't mean you worship karl marx and lenin as gods Venom Snake has issued a correction as of 20:31 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Jun 30, 2017 20:26
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"I'm in favor of a balanced budget but I also want to pay [insert defense contractor here] literally a trillion dollars for a weapon that will only ever be used to blow up 200 dollar honda technicals in the desert"
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Jun 30, 2017 20:36
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loquacius posted:It turns out that in most places where individuals don't have a whole lot to gain from capitalism, the only ideology that unites common people enough to be a valid counter to tyranny is socialism, who'd have thought I don't really think it has much to do with the second thing and much more to do with in general a lot of our political class has never actually read a book about political history on the left or right so they don't even really understand what ideology even is.
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Jun 30, 2017 20:40
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docbeard posted:I think this may be the first time anyone's called Dick Gephardt an influential party figure in like fifteen years. There's an entire cottage industry based around digging up old fossils and asking for their bad opinions.
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Jul 1, 2017 21:41
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got any sevens posted:i've become convinced the msm is focusing solely on trump and his tweets as a red herring because they dgaf about all the poo poo repubs are doing to the epa and education but they have to distract the main populace They do it because of ratings dudes
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Jul 2, 2017 18:42
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MizPiz posted:https://twitter.com/joeprince___/status/881329174299979776 save me god emperor Roosevelt
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Jul 2, 2017 20:11
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Lemming posted:Why do all the democrats have brain stink Even Chuck admitted he was wrong and that going after moderate republicans in 2016 was a bad idea so boy howdy when senator schumer has the plot more together than you do
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Jul 3, 2017 20:15
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docbeard posted:I actually can see, from a ruthless strategy point of view, where this idea comes from. If you can build a party that draws from the entire center and shove the extremists on both left and right out into the cold, you'd basically have a recipe for dominating any given democracy forever. The democratic party was at the height of its power when it was the farthest left it ever was and would be. Like more powerful than the current GOP + a president who didn't have brain holes. Anyone who thinks centrism hasn't totally crippled the democratic partys ability to gain power has brain problems.
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Jul 3, 2017 20:41
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radical meme posted:When was this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjSTQwamo8M
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Jul 3, 2017 21:56
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Subjunctivitis posted:https://twitter.com/LucianNikki/status/881990708227211264 nah
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Jul 4, 2017 08:33
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A race to the bottom where our fed government is essentially just throwing the entire population to the wolves would just end in balkanization/mad max hellscape
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Jul 4, 2017 08:37
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Just popping in to say Zuck's continued pushing of UBI has a lot of party people in meltdown mode because a loving tech goonlord is to the left of them lmao
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Jul 5, 2017 17:54
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comedyblissoption posted:imagine a world where he gets single payer passed and is heralded in history as the second FDR The 2020 primarys are going to be fuckin wild and I cannot wait. If it's at the point where UBI and single payer are considered mainline positions then it will be awesome
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Jul 5, 2017 18:06
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Terror Sweat posted:
Yeah we should run pretty shitheads like Macron and Treadeu
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Jul 5, 2017 20:15
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STOP LETTING NERDS RUN FOR OFFICE
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anime was right posted:are neolibs or republicans better grifting targets? neolibs are richer, but i think the republican "buy murica" stuff audience is larger. Beltway types are kinda wary of stuff now that the democratic party basically can't get power (and deliver on what beltway donors want). I can't speak for "neolibs" in other places though.
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Jul 5, 2017 20:20
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the bitcoin of weed posted:at least those guys won Electing a pretty face with a unclear detached agenda (Obama) basically destroyed the democratic party edit: literally one of the arguments people made for Ossof was that he's a good looking boy which should help him get votes 
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Jul 5, 2017 20:22
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Terror Sweat posted:i was thinkin more like corbyn Corbyn is extremely nerdy which is part of why he is cool
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Jul 6, 2017 00:01
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Working with veterans is insanely infuriating sometimes because they assume they know everything about the military and foreign policy because they got shot at in the middle east once
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Jul 6, 2017 00:03
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Concerned Citizen posted:the ryan zinke story They get really upset when I tell them that people want UBI and no voter in the country gives a poo poo about what Iran is doing
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Jul 6, 2017 00:07
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Actual conversation iv had: "When it comes to campaigning it's going to be really important to articulate a better future that involves things that directly affect people rather than abstract appeals to moderation or niche federal policy issues" "But I'm not an expert on economics and health insurance; I'm qualified to talk about national security" "People fundamentally recognize things like single payer and universal basic income as good. You don't need to be an expert to make a moral appeal to voters. The GOP does this all the time" "I don't see how going farther to the left is going to win us any elections in this current political atmosphere" [insert back and forth over Ossofs numbers versus Quists] "It's not about where it falls on a left right axis. It's about advocating for things that will DIRECTLY make peoples lives better. That has much farther reach than "I will stand up to evil foreigners"" This went on for 3 loving hours 
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Jul 6, 2017 00:18
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Concerned Citizen posted:i don't really think people are for ubi as of yet UBI is just a buzzword for taking money away from rich people and give it too the poor directly. Essentially my theory behind how the democrats can return to power is start loving welcoming some hatred
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Jul 6, 2017 00:21
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Vox Nihili posted:That person is a consevative democrat. They don't want to go left because they don't believe in it. Some of them certainly are but a lot are just apolitical and not used to stepping outside of their comfort zone. Besides my entire spiel is always couched in the fact running a conservative democratic platform isn't a winning strategy regardless of your personal views . That's why this is so frustrating. You would think that people would want to win.
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Jul 6, 2017 00:27
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Al! posted:what about when you explain to them that everything they like about being in the military is essentially socialism I try to avoid gotcha stuff like this because it will just piss them off Condiv posted:cause the dems are recruiting republicans to capture the elusive mitt voter It's more complicated in the cases I'm talking about. They always say "I agree with you BUUUUUUT" with the excuse that going further left isn't a winning strategy.
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Jul 6, 2017 00:31
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SKULL.GIF posted:can't you just not use the word "socialism" and instead couch it in something like ensuring all citizens get the same benefits from the society they live in and contribute to? Thats going to be my tactic in my next round of meetings basically
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Jul 6, 2017 01:19
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radical meme posted:OK I can buy the Iran disinterest because I don't even think the U.S. should be concerned about what's going on in Iran but, somebody is going to have to show me something to confirm that UBI is popular anywhere other than the internet broadly and this thread specifically. The Zuck doubled down on it and if a goddamn hyper focus grouped tech lord is okay with it then yeah it's acceptable radical meme posted:Just a question here, why are you trying to turn a veteran running as a Democrat into something that he's not; he's not a person that wants to go full Bernie. Okay then I guess he doesn't want to win radical meme posted:edit: I'm assuming your a paid political consultant and your telling us that you think its your job to actually convince candidates to tell voters something they don't personally believe in. that's kind of horrifying, even if true. I'm not a paid political consultant I just get to help coordinate stuff and toss my opinion in when I can but if democrats want to stop being the party of losers they are going to need to start pushing heavy redistribution of wealth even if they don't believe in it
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Jul 6, 2017 01:23
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radical meme posted:That's really disheartening Yah welcome to politics friendo
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Jul 6, 2017 05:34
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Vox Nihili posted:this person seems to produce about 50% of the insane hill folk tweets Hill twitter is a very tiny place that is vastly outnumbered by the people who make fun of it. Essentially they are christians being fed to the lions for the entertainment of rome except they deserve it
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Jul 6, 2017 05:42
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anime was right posted:hire me i know what twitter is and i post on the internet real good I was at a fundraiser a few weeks ago where a guy asked me what was up on "crazy leftist drug twitter" he thought the chapo boys where actual drug dealers who worked for el chapo
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Jul 6, 2017 06:22
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The biggest thing by far bringing lanyards like Matty the Redeemed around is that leftism is insanely cool and everyone in D.C. wants to be cool.
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Jul 6, 2017 06:30
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Office Pig posted:i'm sorry venom snake but ted cruz still exists wanting to be cool =/= being cool old teddy trys so very hard with his retarded pop culture references but everyone still hates him lol
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Jul 6, 2017 06:33
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Agean90 posted:meme magic is real I mean if you define cultural shifts as meme magic okay
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Jul 6, 2017 07:10
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Is this the egg that the absolute boy gets
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Bro Dad posted:and now the greatest congressional candidate ever enters the ring: I hate this loving state
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