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Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

My Linux Rig posted:

How exactly is femdom porn the same as a subreddit that encourages and celebrates serial killers?

Not to mention r/jailbait and I'm sure there's other disgusting subreddits.

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Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

What, like they would actually just say a number as you were walking past?

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

chumbler posted:

People still care about birthdays past 21?

Eh, the ones ending in 0 I guess.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Starin at my neckbeard, that's a cope.

Pointing out copes? Ooooh, you better believe that's a cope.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

What was it?

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

mystery fluid posted:



not a super funny one, but i haven't seen it here yet

May as well be Picard with his head in his hands at this point tho.

I reckon they'd be funnier if they were actually made by incels.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

chumbler posted:

Yeah they seem to have missed the developmental milestone where they realize most people just don't talk to strangers.

And yet they don't initiate conversation themselves.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Pththya-lyi posted:

This is pretty much what the dude from Taxi Driver did to his love interest. Now all this incel has to do is find an underage prostitute and kill her pimps and Susan will like him!

Please don't encourage incels to find underage prostitutes. Because I doubt they would kill the pimp

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

MY PALE GOTH SKIN posted:

1. I never thought I'd see someone who doesn't understand the basics of what is and is not pedophilia.

2. 16 year old girls are loving annoying. I say this having been one. So are 16 year old not- girls. They're really not expecting much in the way of conversation, are they?

Conversation is just a means to an end.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012


That is the mindset of an Incel, yes.

Seriously, do these guys seem like they enjoy conversion with people of either sex? Most have autism, depression and/or other anti social disorders.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

iloin siitin posted:

If anything, social status and life in general is really good for single people, especially for women, in the West. Just a handful of decades earlier staying single past your 25s, let alone 30s, would've been a huge financial risk to take, and people would totally have regarded you as somehow damaged/gay. Klinenberg's Going Solo, written on this development, was published 5 years ago and it's already out of date I'd guess.

Maybe it's better than it used to be but from my experience, once you reach your late 20s and are single, people you know turn into toddlers smashing duplo and Lego together.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

OxMan posted:

P. sure an asian Stacy is a Jenny.

There are no Asian Staceys. Asian women are sweet and demure.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Pick posted:

hehehehe. sorry just laughing because a friend of mine growing up was the daughter of a man and his vietnamese mail-order bride. hehehehehe. oh man. that man lived his life in sullen weenie terror.

Hehe. You get it. You get jokes.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Supercondescending posted:

lol holy poo poo. I am a fat, not particularly attractive woman and I am happily married to someone I would consider significantly more attractive than me, managed to date just fine in high school and college, and have had several long term relationships. If I can gently caress, anybody can gently caress. It's not hard to gently caress. Just how.


fakedit: I just realized that I could have written this in like, 8th grade. Around age 14 I learned that if I just talked to people and made jokes it was fine. How do you get to adulthood and be like this

Some people are fatter than you are/were. Also, you seem to have some social skills, whereas other people are really bad at it. And some people are picky regarding sexual/romantic partners.

Pick posted:

For a moment of non-irony or wildpostin, really society needs a strong pendulum swing back towards thinking normal people look good. I mean a lot of the stuff people fuss about really shouldn't matter, and we need to get to a place where we're cool with how people really are, and stop this "I do it for ME!" stuff. We should want to be able to go to work without makeup.

Could it be? In a surprise twist, Pick is actually cool and good?

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

MY PALE GOTH SKIN posted:

I'm not trying to start poo poo, is it common for women to get poo poo just for saying "I don't want to wear makeup to work?"

I know some employers have downright draconian "dress" codes that require that crap, and that a woman with "natural" makeup is more likely to do well in a lot of employment and career settings than one with no makeup. Has the makeup worship crew actually started making GBS threads on women for not wanting to wear it to work? Because I can't think of anything that would make me go from loving makeup to hating it faster than having to ever wear it when I don't feel like it.

I see very few women without makeup. I'm guessing I would see more if they thought they could "get away with it".

E: ah, you meant just from women. Though tbh, I could see that being a thing too. Like, some women might be annoyed that another woman doesn't feel the need to wear it.

Benny Harvey fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Sep 10, 2017

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

If women stopped wearing makeup, America would turn into Japan overnight

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

I was implying that a lot of men would lose interest in women without makeup.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Barudak posted:

So youre... dumb? Thats the angle were going with? Bold, edgy, but Im not feeling it. Feels old hat, add pizazz. You need to go harder, stupider, more raw unkempt idiocy. Tell me that evopsych proves human males cant get erections unless a womans face is covered in a minimum of two makeup items that are terrible puns like Chiahuawow!

No, men are dumb. loving idiots who think women naturally look the way that they do.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Ghostlight posted:

I don't see that happening or being a bad thing.



Japan is the way you think it is because people work like 11 hour office days with an intransient job culture, back-ended pay for seniority so young people don't have as much financial freedom, and different cultural expectations for relationships and sex. I don't even know why you would think that women in Japan don't wear makeup, or that Japanese men are heavily into makeup unless you weren't intending to draw a comparison between the reasons and just think that not wearing makeup to work would have the same effect as a high stress urban lifestyle.

Yeah, I get that Japanese women wear makeup. I was just using Japan as a reference because afaik they are the Panda bears of the human race


Best Giraffe posted:

it would be nice to be able to tell how attractive a person actually is without having to look closely

REEEEE don't take away my pwetty fings.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Shanghaied posted:

"A woman who is bound by professional courtesy is alone with me in an enclosed space, this is my chance!"

Why won't female cleaners look at me in toilets/locker rooms. Must be because I'm not Chad. Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Pick posted:

These guys literally are the pool from which serial killers are drawn.

Actually, some serial killers are good at women

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

My Linux Rig posted:

What color is the sky?

Everyone else: blue
Incels: :arghfist::spergin: YOU'RE hosed!!! :arghfist::spergin:

Nice non-sequitur

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

fruit on the bottom posted:

I hate me but I'm still glad I'm not:

Cuck

Numale


Thanks to this, I found out that Gary Human is releasing a new album later today.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

DragQueenofAngmar posted:

translation: everything is so much prettier in my animes

I think this guy has some kind of other brain problems besides being incel.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Spinster posted:

? The extent of it is a shock.

Had you never heard of saint Elliott before? Or are you shocked at how many share his views?

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

fruit on the bottom posted:

I was using the gender-neutral dude

Nice masculine normativity.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

fruit on the bottom posted:

TBF I'd find it just as creepy if a woman raped a dildo to a giant Ken doll and hosed that.

E: I'm not fixing that typo

Typo or autocorrect...?

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Literally A Person posted:

If a jockey is an incel is he jockeycel?

We are the jockeys, jockeys are we
We don't get to gently caress that bitch Stacey

Brb, away to the Simpsons low point thread.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

failing forward posted:

Cats have barbed penises AND tongues. Also the constant conflation of vulva and vagina is annoying and anyone who comes out saying it's a useless distinction is a garbage idiot #bravery

Yeah, next they'll be saying mouth instead of buccal cavity.

dudeness posted:

"If Chad's cat gives them a chance with Chad, then they will gently caress Chad's cat."

Yes mediocre women, hot dudes want you to have sex with their cats before they will have sex with you.


Also lol at how often they complain about degenerate women but still end up writing all this erotic fanfic about bestiality. Just because you act all outraged doesn't mean the ideas didn't come from your head.

The sad thing is, they probably don't think they're making it up.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Guy Mann posted:

Wow I never knew @therealbanksy was a goon!


incels seem like the kind of people who would kramer into a room at the mention of Ghandi to breathlessly parrot 20 year old Christopher Hitchens hot takes about how he's actually bad

True tho

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Trap sprung?

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Gadzuko posted:

This is completely missing the point he was making, that the incels are so caught up in "what does this skill do for me" that they miss the point that they need to pursue a skill or hobby that they actually enjoy. If you go in with any kind of mindset other than "hmm this is interesting and I'd like to do it" you're making a mistake.

But then some people just don't like anything, even if you factor out the goal-oriented mentality. Depression is a thing. I have taken up some hobbies just for the sake of appearing normal and not letting people know that I'm a copy of a human. Because people won't accept that. If you don't have hobbies you're lazy and just need to "live, laugh, love" and all that poo poo. Otherwise, gently caress you and stop being a miserable oval office. That's the attitude. People think that depressed people of those who are otherwise empty inside need (and I say need because they're are people who get personally offended if you reveal this aspect of your true self to them) to just man the gently caress up.

As another poster previously put it, incels think there is only one thing that will make them feel fulfilled but in reality there is nothing that will make them feel fulfilled.

And yes, these men do need therapy and/or meds. I won't deny that. But they also need a coping strategy in the meantime to stop their skin from crawling when they're around other people.

Basically I'm saying that positive mental health should be cultivated by society from an early age.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

You want people who will suffer depression to be aborted? Why not just sterilise the mentally ill? (Then again, you're Swedish so I'm preaching to the choir here)

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Amnizu posted:

at least we wouldn't have to suffer further posts from you

We also wouldn't have retards who don't know how to use the ignore button.

54 40 or gently caress posted:

Lol imagine carrying a baby in your body for nine months, breastfeeding, rocking him to sleep and singing softly just for him to grow up and be an incel


I can't help but get the feeling that most incels were neither breastfed nor rocked to sleep.

well why not posted:

men:

my partner must be petite, busty, skinny, big rear end, a virgin, perfect skin, perfect teeth and well mannered

women:

i'd prefer someone who's 6" tall

men:

I've started a political movement about the unfairness of the dating world and am calling for women's rights to be abolished

Alternatively: I'll marry someone I don't really like all that much and spend the rest of my life quietly resenting both of us lol.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

To be fair, I don't think the "standard narrative" is all that contradictory. You're supposed to aim for the stars but accept "only" reaching the moon (while still trying harder).

What's hosed up about it is how it treats people who aren't particularly ambitious. People who are happy enough with a 9-5 and chilling out afterwards.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Android Blues posted:

I know it's not necessarily your exact outlook, but this attitude of "what's the point of self improvement if it doesn't get me some kind of physical benefit?" pervades a few of your posts and it's sort of sad. Picking up new skills and learning new things is rewarding in itself. Learning music is enriching to the mind and spirit regardless of whether you're going to be in a band or get a job in a production studio.

I actually think a lot of what makes incels unhappy is narcissistic obsession with empty social achievements and a total lack of interest in actually rewarding activities. Even when they pick up hobbies, they seem to see it as a means to an end, and are totally joyless in the pursuit of the hobby itself.


I think it might be the other way round. Do you think that incels are unable to enjoy hobbies because they are obsessed with status? I think it's an inability to take enjoyment from their lives that leads them to pursuing empty narcissistic goals.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Zzulu posted:

Elliot came from a very wealthy family and had every opportunity to excel in life but he spent his life playing World of Warcraft and making weird rear end videos of himself on youtube. Almost everyone saw him as the shy, quiet guy who avoided social interactions but from his point of view the entire world became an enemy

He never once made any real efforts to become a part of the world, he basically just started rejecting it immediately since he didn't get everything he wanted without trying

What's your point.

Also, coming from a wealthy family is not an automatic remedy for the sort of brain problems he had.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

hyphz posted:

Or, you know, perhaps they've had it hammered into them that "they are the problem" and are therefore assessing all their activities in terms of success at fixing that problem. And are afraid of time passing without it being fixed.

True. And it's especially difficult regarding sex and romance. With other activities it is so much easier to get constructive criticism. If you're genuinely trying at your job, most bosses will help you in my experience. The same is true for other people taking part in a hobby.

A guy that doesn't know how to approach women is (un)hosed. Asking for advice will either get you laughed at or you get some wishy washy bullshit like "just talk to them". Which while true, is a bit like telling an unemployed person to just "apply for jobs" or someone starting to play basketball to throw the ball at the hoop. It's not exactly like you can really learn by trial and error. When you just don't know how to approach women, doing it makes you feel like such a creep.

Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

Android Blues posted:

Well, I mean, they are the problem. That's true. There isn't an external problem here making them bitter lonely misogynists.

I don't think a lot of them want to change honestly. They're obsessed with their own perceived low status and use it as a comfort blanket to excuse their fear of actually having to engage in activities where you can succeed or fail. They also use it to satisfy the Elliott Roger-like narcissism a lot of them seem to have - all the talk about how they should LDAR and have negative canthal tilt and such is just another form of total self-obsession. They want to be stuck in permanent childhood where they're the centre of the universe and they don't have to do anything hard, but they also want to be feted and recognised for their intrinsic importance as men. This central contradiction is why incels are so terrifying and funny to read about.

If they do want to change though, recognising that hobbies and interests should be enjoyable in their own right rather than simply a mechanistic means to advance you closer to a social milestone is valid advice. "Enjoy yourself, learn to love yourself, and work towards a good life that doesn't need to have a relationship in it to be full and satisfying" is the best "how do I get a date" advice I can think of, because even if it doesn't get you a date, it still works.

I'm not so sure. I think it's a case of learned helplessness while at the same time giving them a feeling of control. They feel that they have no way of improving their lives so they make the choice to LDAR because at least that way it's their choice.

I agree with your advice at the end. Unfortunately so many people (not just incels) don't treat getting a date/making yourself dateable as something you work towards. It's something you just gotta do or else you're a hosed up creep and a loser. Even though not getting dates doesn't make someone a hosed up creep and a loser. Being a hosed up creep and a loser makes someone undateable.

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Benny Harvey
Nov 24, 2012

HazCat posted:

The easiest way to practice talking to women is to have male friends with girlfriends, and to hang out in casual group settings with them.

Of course, incels see a woman who they can't gently caress as a waste of their time, so they never get to do this.

I already do that. I can talk to women platonically just fine once I get to know them.

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