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The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
The balls on this man, wow, the balls. We should all aspire to such a paradigm of masculinity chivalry and class. what a great man.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/22/...d=72738718&te=1

quote:

Bill Cosby is planning a series of town hall meetings this summer to educate people, including young athletes and married men, on how to avoid accusations of sexual assault, two of his representatives said Wednesday.

The announcement came just days after Mr. Cosby’s trial on sexual assault charges ended in a hung jury and while he is still battling civil suits from other women who say he assaulted them too.

“This issue is bigger than Bill Cosby,” his representative Andrew Wyatt said on “Good Day Alabama,” a show on WBRC Fox 6 in Birmingham.

“This issue can affect any young person — especially young athletes of today,” he continued, “and they need to know what they are facing when they are hanging out and partying, when they are doing certain things they shouldn’t be doing.” Mr. Wyatt said the issue “also affects married men.”

Ebonee M. Benson, who works with Mr. Wyatt and joined him on the program, said the need for awareness had grown because the statutes of limitations on sexual assault have been extended in several states. In some cases the legislative efforts were aided by women who have accused Mr. Cosby of molesting them.

“People need to be educated on a brush against the shoulder,” she said. “Anything at this point can be considered sexual assault.”

The Cosby announcement drew immediate rebukes from several quarters, including the anti-sexual violence organization RAINN.

“It would be more useful if Mr. Cosby would spend time talking with people about how not to commit sexual assault in the first place,” said Jodi Omear, an organization spokeswoman.

Kristen Houser of the National Sexual Violence Resource Center said a number of organizations exist that would be far more appropriate choices to lead an educational program on this issue than Mr. Cosby, whom she described as “a person who has 60 allegations of sexual assault against” him.

Gloria Allred, a lawyer who represents several women who have accused Mr. Cosby of assault, said the “workshops appear to be a transparent and slick effort to attempt to influence the jury pool from which jurors will be selected for his second criminal trial.”

One of the town halls will be held in Alabama in July, Mr. Wyatt said on the show. In a later email, he said Mr. Cosby had received “hundreds of calls from civic organizations and churches requesting for Mr. Cosby to speak to young men and women about the judicial system.” He said the program would include a critique of the decision by prosecutors in Pennsylvania to charge him last year.

Mr. Cosby later thanked the television station for having his publicists on the show. He is currently free on bail while he awaits a retrial of the criminal case in which he is charged with three counts of aggravated indecent assault in connection with a 2004 encounter with a woman at his home outside Philadelphia. The woman, Andrea Constand, says Mr. Cosby drugged and assaulted her.

Mr. Cosby and his lawyers say the sex was consensual.

The jury deliberated for 52 hours before a mistrial was declared because jurors were hopelessly deadlocked. On Thursday, The Associated Press and a Pittsburgh television station reported that jurors it spoke to had said the panel ended its deliberations almost evenly split between those supporting conviction and acquittal.

That depiction was at odds with that of a juror who spoke to ABC News earlier in the week and had said that 10 members of the panel had voted to convict Mr. Cosby but were unable to persuade two jurors who would not budge.

Some jurors were concerned about the 10-year delay in prosecuting Mr. Cosby, and that politics had been involved, The A.P. reported.

WPXI Channel 11 in Pittsburgh played a recording of a man it said was a juror who said the voting was evenly split.

“Whatever the man did, he has already paid his price, paid, suffered,” the voice in the recording said. “A case that was settled in ’05 and we had to bring it up in ’17.”

On Wednesday, the ABC News report, based on its own conversation with an anonymous juror, said the panel had voted 10-2 to convict Mr. Cosby on two of the three counts.

In one of the juror accounts that surfaced Thursday, the panelist agreed that there had been a 10-2 vote at one point, but said the mood in the room changed in the later hours and was roughly split between those who sought a conviction and those who wanted to acquit Mr. Cosby.

Several jurors contacted by The New York Times have said they are unwilling to speak about their deliberations. In releasing their names Wednesday, Judge Steven T. O’Neill had warned the jurors not to discuss their deliberations.

Mark Roth contributed reporting from Pittsburgh.

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Putty
Mar 21, 2013

HOOKED ON THE BROTHERS
Cosby is going to turn into dust any day now seriously why

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
There was a model, I think it was Janice Dickenson, who was on Howard Stern like literally a decade before these allegations came out, where she hinted that Cosby sexually assaulted her but she stopped herself and said she legally probably should not say anything. No exaggeration it was like 2003 or something.

T.S. Smelliot
Apr 23, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Well he's not wrong lol I'd be curious about the real motivation that brought this poo poo up decades after the fact any of this alleged poo poo happened

SpaceClown
Feb 13, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
This is good stuff OP real top notch info

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
sorry there's not much opportunity for puns.

T.S. Smelliot posted:

Well he's not wrong lol I'd be curious about the real motivation that brought this poo poo up decades after the fact any of this alleged poo poo happened

nah

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe

T.S. Smelliot posted:

Well he's not wrong lol I'd be curious about the real motivation that brought this poo poo up decades after the fact any of this alleged poo poo happened

At the very least, anything that happened in the 70s should be thrown out completely. I mean it was the loving 70s.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Why do yall think he did it? Imo he was possessed by demon's of lust like in that enigma song

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Fog Tripper posted:

At the very least, anything that happened in the 70s should be thrown out completely. I mean it was the loving 70s.

I'll scribble 1979 on your forehead and throw you in the trash

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

T.S. Smelliot posted:

Well he's not wrong lol I'd be curious about the real motivation that brought this poo poo up decades after the fact any of this alleged poo poo happened
Ignoring the first part of that post, what brought it back up to a lot of people was a Hannibal Burgess standup where he mentions it.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Is Bob Barker co-headlining?

Lawrence Gilchrist
Mar 31, 2010

As usual the best and brightest in GBS grace us with opinions from on high

jet sanchEz
Oct 24, 2001

Lousy Manipulative Dog
Only in America

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting
Bill Cosby presents: "How to get off"

T.S. Smelliot
Apr 23, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

mind the walrus posted:

Ignoring the first part of that post, what brought it back up to a lot of people was a Hannibal Burgess standup where he mentions it.

No poo poo? So it was apparently more or less common knowledge when taken in conjunction with that post about it coming u on stern too?

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Dad is great! He gave us chocolate cake!

ditty bout my clitty
May 28, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
Chewy chocolate cake

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

T.S. Smelliot posted:

No poo poo? So it was apparently more or less common knowledge when taken in conjunction with that post about it coming u on stern too?
Yeah it was one of those "Yeah, but what can you do?" things. This sort-of poo poo happens a lot in the entertainment world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr0KriimgUs

Lawrence Gilchrist
Mar 31, 2010

T.S. Smelliot posted:

No poo poo? So it was apparently more or less common knowledge when taken in conjunction with that post about it coming u on stern too?

It was as well known as the allegations that Robin Williams stole jokes so many times over the years that comedians would request to be notified via flashing light if he was present.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Remember that flash game on Newgrounds from like 15 years ago where Cosby was trying to lure women into an alley before bludgeoning them and throwing them in a dungeon?

I wonder what the creator of that knew

edit: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/218789

T.S. Smelliot
Apr 23, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

mind the walrus posted:

Yeah it was one of those "Yeah, but what can you do?" things. This sort-of poo poo happens a lot in the entertainment world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr0KriimgUs

:laffo::laffo: Jesus loving christ

T.S. Smelliot
Apr 23, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
So this whole poo poo show is a sham? Not in the "so what he's a rapist" sense but everyone knew about this poo poo for like the last 4 goddamn decades but NOW they're going after him because....? Who did he piss off and what did they want from him?

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

T.S. Smelliot posted:

So this whole poo poo show is a sham? Not in the "so what he's a rapist" sense but everyone knew about this poo poo for like the last 4 goddamn decades but NOW they're going after him because....? Who did he piss off and what did they want from him?

the complainant talked to her mom and her mom said report him

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
He's also made a lot of weird comments about Spanish flea and sleepy juice and other weird poo poo.

Here is the thing from Stern from over a decade ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95TuA6FNtEs

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

why would i want tips about how to avoid allegations of sexual assault from a man who seems to have more of them than anybody in history?

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
Also this scene is amazing in hindsight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA4yuz8qgj4

I highly recommend it for the :wtf: factor if you have never seen it

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

T.S. Smelliot posted:

So this whole poo poo show is a sham? Not in the "so what he's a rapist" sense but everyone knew about this poo poo for like the last 4 goddamn decades but NOW they're going after him because....? Who did he piss off and what did they want from him?
Remember most of this poo poo happened in the 60s-90s. Cosby was a huge stand-up (second only to Richard Pryor as the premier black comedian, and by far the cleaner act) and had one of the highest-rated sitcoms of his day, known for working exceptionally hard to portray black families in a positive light, not to mention all that "Kids say the Darndest Things" show. The feeling of "I can't go against him, he's too well-connected/important" was strong. It's only like a decade out of the last time Cosby had any pretensions to relevance that suddenly he's an acceptable target.

And like I said this sort-of poo poo happens a lot. Any successful kid's actor you see on TV? Odds are way better than not that the kid is getting raped on the regular by producers/executives.

SpaceClown
Feb 13, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Caesar Saladin posted:

why would i want tips about how to avoid allegations of sexual assault from a man who seems to have more of them than anybody in history?

This is the real question here

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen
remember kids, pull up your pants

unless there's a passed out woman in front of you in which case go wild

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen
the best way to avoid accusations of sexual assault is to make sure there's no survivors afterwards

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Cosby should go on tour with Brock Turner.

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
I really hope there's recording of these things.

Wondering how much of it will skirt around the obvious 'how to not get caught' reality.

I mean, poo poo, the loving LAWYER spells it out “This issue can affect any young person ...when they are doing certain things they shouldn’t be doing.”

drat

Zeluth
May 12, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Last thing I want to do is wake up with a dick in my mouth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWUBnrIaphQ

Zeluth fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Jun 23, 2017

walgreenslatino
Jun 2, 2015

Lipstick Apathy

The Walrus posted:

I mean, poo poo, the loving LAWYER spells it out “This issue can affect any young person ...when they are doing certain things they shouldn’t be doing.”

drat

Knowing Cosby's conservatism what this phrase likely refers to is "drinking and partying and premarital sex"

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

walgreenslatino posted:

Knowing Cosby's conservatism what this phrase likely refers to is "drinking and partying and premarital sex"

Cosby's official story is that he slept with a lot of women and gave them sedatives for recreational purposes but it was all 100% consensual and he's very sorry for consensually giving so many women recreational sedatives and then having consensual sex with them.

T.S. Smelliot
Apr 23, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

mind the walrus posted:

Remember most of this poo poo happened in the 60s-90s. Cosby was a huge stand-up (second only to Richard Pryor as the premier black comedian, and by far the cleaner act) and had one of the highest-rated sitcoms of his day, known for working exceptionally hard to portray black families in a positive light, not to mention all that "Kids say the Darndest Things" show. The feeling of "I can't go against him, he's too well-connected/important" was strong. It's only like a decade out of the last time Cosby had any pretensions to relevance that suddenly he's an acceptable target.

And like I said this sort-of poo poo happens a lot. Any successful kid's actor you see on TV? Odds are way better than not that the kid is getting raped on the regular by producers/executives.

Yeah this makes a lot of sense actually, I guess his shows and stuff were a bit before my time because my only real memories of him really are "the jello guy" growing up.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Bill Cosby is a rapist and I don't care what the courts say. They got it wrong.

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
lmao

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

mind the walrus posted:

Remember most of this poo poo happened in the 60s-90s. Cosby was a huge stand-up (second only to Richard Pryor as the premier black comedian, and by far the cleaner act) and had one of the highest-rated sitcoms of his day, known for working exceptionally hard to portray black families in a positive light, not to mention all that "Kids say the Darndest Things" show. The feeling of "I can't go against him, he's too well-connected/important" was strong. It's only like a decade out of the last time Cosby had any pretensions to relevance that suddenly he's an acceptable target.

And like I said this sort-of poo poo happens a lot. Any successful kid's actor you see on TV? Odds are way better than not that the kid is getting raped on the regular by producers/executives.

Bill Cosby being a rapist was okay because he did some good things I guess!!!

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COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

mind the walrus posted:

known for working exceptionally hard to portray black families in a positive white suburbia approved light

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