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hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Ceyton posted:

I'd be fine with that. Oilers get 4 1st round picks as compensation, some other team gets cap hell and a single point of failure. You just know he's going to get run out of town or leave as a UFA anyway. All of that goes for Draisaitl too.

Also,

4 first round picks for mcdavid would be a bad trade for the oilers though and presumably whichever team gets him will be in the top half of the league for those 4 years

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hifi
Jul 25, 2012

paying a first round pick and having reaves get elbowed into the next dimension by the czechoslovakian hitman would be cool

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Ginette Reno posted:

Ryan Reaves is gonna beat the hell out of some scum this season. I'll trade a first for pound town baby

malice in the palace part 2

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

i had a dream where shane doan goes to the red wings for 2x4MM and he gets the A but hanzal getting like 5 years from them and loving up his back again and getting bought out would be another funny possibility

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Glambags posted:

Ok so the rangers still need centers and defenseman. Thank you to Jeff Gorton for restocking the pantry but we still need to put players on the ice. I am now very concerned that the rangers will be the rangers and sign aging free agents to bad deals now that they have cap space. *COUGHS* joe thornton

this was sort of my thought. why was everyone in such a rush to trade stepan

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

and 1.5MM is way the gently caress off for jumbo. coyotes fans wanted him at 2x10MM or something ridiculous before we had stepan because we had a shipping container of money to spend to hit the cap floor. now we only have like 5MM left to go so who knows

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Levitate posted:

His contract and cap space and he has a NMC that kicks in July 1st

Also speculation they're a little worried his game is starting to decline.

Yeah those all make sense, but I thought they'd be going for it instead of trying to pull off the magic trade all your decent secondary pieces away and continue to get better move like the hawks have only been able to do so far

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

https://twitter.com/Bob_Stauffer/status/879103616061132800

Sounds like a good combination with chakra

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

who''s hyped for the FREE AGENT FRENZY

I, uh, can't wait for a third line RW and RHD

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

burmistrov is a free agent too now. i'd rather have him over cousins or richardson but whatever. he looked revitalized in the 30 games or so we had him.

also the coyotes have 2 right handed skaters on the roster now

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Mike_V posted:

The Pens just traded for Ryan Reaves to be their 4th line winger, I doubt they're bringing in Yakupov.

they can make "the fifth line" a thing in pittsburgh too

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Chad Sexington posted:

Is Nico really expected to make the team this year?

I'd expect the first overall to start in the nhl unless it was a goalie

hifi
Jul 25, 2012


It's nothing to sneeze at but basically the pitiful return I expected. Teams were making trades to balance their roster so they basically knew who they would lose, and vegas is stuck holding the bag at the end after all those roster moves, so the option is to trade for a guy that's like fifth? best on some bad teams or sign a free agent or stand pat

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

https://twitter.com/j_chychrun7/status/879516613170647041

my man

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

quote:

Corey Hirsch tweeted last week that Sean Burke will soon be announced as GM of Team Canada’s men’s hockey entry for the 2018 Winter Olympics. One of the top contenders for the coaching job — if not the number one choice — is Willie Desjardins.

good for burke, lol at willie

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

DJExile posted:

Where has Burke been lately anyway? Is he still in Arizona's front office?

he left in like 2015

edit: pro scout with montreal

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

https://twitter.com/craigsmorgan/status/879826259429216257

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

ThinkTank posted:

when they had like a 5% chance of making the playoffs made a deadline deal for Mikkel Boedker (admittedly for not that much in retrospect).


This trade is looking worse and worse though. kyle wood they got through the trade put up 43 points in 68 games in the ahl at age 20 and looks legit and that second round compensatory pick turned into chychrun. Even Tanguay put up 13 points in 18 games when we got him, more than half of what he did in 52 games with the avs that year, although that's probably worth more to the avs for what they didn't get out of him than what the coyotes did get out of him.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

for all the bitching about tippett developing younger players deangelo was never really scratched, so i assume he'd be fine anywhere else

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

it's weird because 2 years from now their UFAs they can get rid of by then are fayne, the korpedo's buyout, letestu, and maroon. their core group for better or worse is all out into the 2020s. i think they should have just buried him to get actual relief in 2019 and 2020

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

ThinkTank posted:

You can't buyout during the season, but this make some sense. Cap space is cumulative, so rather than spending to the cap now Chia is giving himself a bit of freedom to make a move at the deadline. $2M today can mean adding $6ish of salary at the deadline. That's a good player as opposed to a depth guy.

yeah but the ducks with 5MM in current cap space have 25MM in deadline cap space. short of being the hawks you are going to be able to add whatever you want at the deadline, capwise.

not sure why they didn't buy out fayne, 1 year left on his deal meant a shorter buyout term with only 300k? difference and pouliot had fairly consistent 30 point seasons before this year

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Kilza posted:

Because buying out Fayne when we have the cap space this upcoming season and likely won't have cap space the season after is absolutely stupid, seeing as how that'd be even more dead cap going into 2018-19.

It's the oilers saying they want the cap space now, not me. I was pointing out that fayne only has 1 year remaining and buying him out turns into similar savings now with 2 years of a buyout instead of 4.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Kilza posted:

Friedman wrote something involving the UFAs, and:


Girardi is headed to Tampa? Not Detroit? What is this?

niemi to pittsburgh lol

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

the hero charts don't include penalties which is one of the major knocks against pouliot too

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Technetium posted:

He's taken 1, 1, and 2 more penalties than he's drawn the past three seasons.

and if he would cut the poo poo out then he'd be a better player

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

i completely forgot about it but mike stone re-signing before july 1 means the yotes get a 5th round pick from calgary

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

I think burmistrov would be a good pickup for any team for 3-4MM but the canucks are a strange destination because they're reasonably deep at center. sedin/horvat/sutter/granlund maybe? burmistrov's better than sutter and worse than horvat, but the canucks are stuck with everyone except whoever is on the 4th line. from a on-ice perspective, burmistrov might be the best shot at putting up a h. sedin impression on the second powerplay though

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

vrbata is good in the shootout too. he also taught boedker how to do his move so maybe he can do that in florida

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

what happened with lindberg? he was great when he put up, uh, 28 points, and now bad when he puts up 20? i guess in his first season he had like five goals in 3 games and then coasted off that?

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

ElwoodCuse posted:

All these scrub-rear end guys getting picked #1 are all the answer you need to morons whining about "oh but tanking"

You don't always get Sid or Mario when you pick #1. Stop with this lottery poo poo or the even more ridiculous schemes people come up with

they should just let the bad teams pick first, imo

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Pornographic Memory posted:

its gonna own when a team in playoff contention until the last week of the season wins a top 3 draft pick and everybody realizes this lottery system is dumb as hell too, in addition to still failing to prevent teams from selling off good players to stockpile draft picks and suck poo poo for a couple years

all of the big teams spend enough to not get a decent lottery pick (canucks seemingly not counting here), so they're only ever going to see a huge jump in the draft and not the big fall or soul crushing agony of being one spot away from a generational player

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

a false posted:

where are you getting any of that from other than the point totals? he was really good when he got fully healthy last year and was one of the rangers' better players down the stretch and into the playoffs. rangers fans didn't want to lose him in the expansion draft

sorry, i just remember the coyotes getting poo poo on for trading him and then never really heard anything after that until he went to vegas and re-signed with them

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Sharks Eat Bear posted:

As someone that only seriously follows the NHL and casually the NBA, I'd be curious to hear the compare/contrast vs. the MLB and NFL in terms of superstar-drivenness. I think you can leave the NBA off the table entirely since it's so extreme on the superstar spectrum.

I think the big thing is that it's possible to take away the ball from a superstar in the nfl or the mlb. you can intentionally walk people, intentionally give guys a day off during a ace pitcher's start, double team wide receivers, etc, but in hockey you can pretty much always get the puck to connor mcdavid unless you are making a calculated decision while defending a powerplay.

and then in terms of being on offense, there's a possession advantage for the nba, nhl, and nfl, from most to least, where having the ball lets you dictate what you are doing with the ball. you can straight up run picks in the nba to force a switch so your superstar ball handler is attacking the worst player on defense, which you can kind of do in the nhl on a power play, but at the botton of the totem pole is the mlb where you're just rolling the dice when you make contact with the ball.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

my understanding is that income earned in different states is taxed according to those states also. i dunno what you are using but capfriendly has a calculator and you can just plug in a number and i don't think it's entirely accurate because of that. i'm not a cpa or whatever so feel free to correct me, it'd be interesting to know the entire story

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jock_tax

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/882940064329846784

why

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

i think when the article came out my thought was him or his ghostwriter added up the percentages and calculated the 66k number and he said, well it felt like i wasn't rich so that sounds about right. or he's making poo poo up to prove a point that you shouldn't live like you're making at least league minumum for the rest of your life.

even if tocchet looks better in an interview than nelson or whoever else i still wouldn't want him. he managed to be the biggest fuckup in the gretzky era coyotes

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Eric the Mauve posted:

He's nominally the PP coach but he doesn't actually do anything, he's just Mario's golfing buddy and it's a sinecure.

come on

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

i am the bird posted:

If Arizona has 18 goony, hot dog gobblers then they're in business.

everyone on the team looks like an extra from malcolm in the middle but they're also like 18 years old so we'll see how they round out

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

i guess the good thing is, if tocchet gets the job then he probably has a great answer to "how exactly do you take the coyotes to the playoffs without sidney crosby et al"

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hifi
Jul 25, 2012

https://twitter.com/HeleneStJames/status/883373619350568961

this is sort of what i was afraid of

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