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Llyd
Oct 9, 2012
Thanks for a good OP.
As an "expat" in Belgium, the europol thread has been a good source during the election, here's to more of that.

Deltasquid posted:

Hahaha. Okay, good. I hope she gets to sit the next years out in the shadows and keeps upsetting her dad.

Yeah, she's back in her box for 5 more years.
She'll be on the front page from time to time, when she comes up with something outrageous enough, or when an FN mayor does something stupid again.
Or you know, if she gets convicted for her EU shenanigans...

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Llyd
Oct 9, 2012
It might be the only way for both of them to exist politically for 5 years, a good case of mutually assured publicity.
Meluche has already started with the "say stupid poo poo to get some attention" plan anyway.

Can we get the guys from Fiscal Kombat to make a new game ?
Call it Assemblée Fighters Vth Republic, you can chose between all minority leaders to fight to the death in front of journalists.
In the background, a horde a faceless suits are busy burning union leaders at the stake using copies of the Code du travail as kindling.

Llyd fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Jun 29, 2017

Llyd
Oct 9, 2012
I'm always a bit put off by how any picture of him looks like a stock photo.
It was the same with his campaign flyer.

Llyd
Oct 9, 2012
Some researchers in social science from Toulouse have run the facebook pages of the gilets jaunes, the petition comments and the online articles on the movement through lexicometric analysis and have published a first report:
https://www.scribd.com/document/394250648/Rapport-Gilets-Jaunes
(from Arrêt sur Images ).



Turns out that (surprise) the movement is much more political than what's reported on Cnews/BFM, and not really using any far-right terms.
This is a quantitative analysis though, so there could be surprises, but still, better than expected ?

e: I can't imgur

Llyd
Oct 9, 2012
Really ? But, nous ne changerons pas de cap car le cap est bon, right ?

AceOfFlames posted:

French Politics: the gilet jaune sighed as he unsheathed his bagette

:discourse:

Llyd
Oct 9, 2012

ilmucche posted:

C'était sur le bbc que le PM l'a annoncé. Je ne vais jamais comprendre la politique française.

So it seems, but that's just a temporary suspension.

https://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2018/12/04/gilets-jaunes-l-executif-face-a-l-urgence_5392235_3224.html posted:

Les « gilets jaunes » se montrent prudents sur l’annonce de cette suspension de plusieurs mois. Benjamin Cauchy, l’une des figures du mouvement a salué « une première étape ». Mais « les Français ne veulent pas des miettes, ils veulent la baguette au complet », a-t-il déclaré à l’AFP en réclamant des « états généraux de la fiscalité », « une nouvelle répartition des richesses en France » et l’instauration de « référendums réguliers sur les grands enjeux sociétaux ». Le moratoire est « une cacahuète », a estimé pour sa part Laetitia Dewall, porte-parole des « gilets jaunes » du Val-d’Oise.

:france::france::france:
Yeah, give us the whole baguette :love:.

Llyd fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Dec 4, 2018

Llyd
Oct 9, 2012

Toplowtech posted:

Okay, i may point out something but the magazine Marianne made an article recently about Macron's presidential bid donations and over half of it come from a group of just under 1000 french donators, a surprising number of them living in England (tax dodgers?), who maxed out their donation potential. So it kinda make sense he uses the BBC, really.

For all their faults, France's grandes écoles/écoles préparatoires are quite good at producing people proficient with math/finance and used to overwork.
And the City is quite good at recruiting them for finance jobs by offering them tons of gold (and a favorable tax scheme, indeed).
Those people probably have a shrine to Jupiter in their living rooms and enough money to support him.

Llyd
Oct 9, 2012
Also, this happened... on BFMTV of all places.

Xavier Mathieu explains why the government is causing more violence by its own inaction, and that only fear drives them to negociate.
Stanislas Guerini, majority leader of LREM, then confesses to browning his pants.

https://player.vimeo.com/video/304876347

e: vimeo embed

Llyd fucked around with this message at 12:19 on Dec 7, 2018

Llyd
Oct 9, 2012
I'm a bit worried that Jupiter's crumbs are gonna be enough to mollify the movement though...
I hope that at least it will have refreshed everyone's memory that political demonstrations and movements work, if you keep at it long and hard enough.

Llyd
Oct 9, 2012
And there we go, the usual fuckers are calling for a stop of the movement.
(might be behind a paywall)

https://www.arretsurimages.net/chroniques/le-matinaute/alors-vous-enlevez-le-gilet posted:

"Alors, vous l'enlevez, le gilet ?" Macron a à peine disparu des écrans, que les envoyés spéciaux se précipitent sur les rond-points. Là , maintenant, tout de suite, il faut délivrer son verdict, trancher, alors, oui ou non, vous repliez les tentes ?

A peine la diffusion de l'intervention terminée (elle était en différé, les rédactions ont donc pu la visionner avant tout le monde), les éditocrates, eux, ont tranché. Il y a du lourd, du substantiel, c'est un tournant, un virage, un acte deux, on ne voit pas pourquoi ils ne les enlèveraient pas, leurs gilets, il est temps de sortir de la "séquence", de passer à autre chose.

Llyd
Oct 9, 2012
Ah yes, the classic: we haven't explained it well enough, and even if we did, you cunts are too stupid to understand it anyhow.

Ca va aider leur image de connards arrogants c'est certain.

e: Even more funny when the only reason the gilets jaunes exist in the first place is because Macron et al have been so blatantly greedy and contemptuous.

Llyd fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Dec 17, 2018

Llyd
Oct 9, 2012
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Liguedulol

A bunch of french journos were part of private facebook group named Ligue du Lol (LOL league) started circa 2010, and used it to launch coordinated attacks against women, feminists, jews, POCs and LGBTQs both online and IRL. 99% white males if you were wondering. They now write for papers like Liberation or Les Inrocks (the editor in chief...) which are generally progressive.

The info got out this weekend, more and more victims testimonies are being published as we speak, and they paint a nasty picture.
The guys involved have spent the weekend publishing half-assed "I'm sorry my humor hurt you" type excuses. Apparently they all left the group after 2 months and were all only passive observers, whereas victims talk about being harassed for years :iiam:.

Also, purging their twitter accounts from the most incriminating stuff.
https://twitter.com/LSpun/status/1094766998662406145

Really outdoing ourselves :france:.

Llyd fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Feb 11, 2019

Llyd
Oct 9, 2012
The results of the Vrai Débat are in, analyzed by the Toulouse scientists again.
Turns out that for a bunch a violent rioters coming to eat your children, they make some pretty reasonable points (maybe even too reasonable, pas de 6ème), and are more politicized than what our glorious leader thinks.

https://www.arretsurimages.net/articles/exclusif-gilets-jaunes-les-resultats-du-vrai-debat

quote:

ASI : - Dans votre rapport, vous expliquez que dans le cadre du Vrai débat, "l’objectif n’est plus de formuler des doléances, mais les termes de la négociation à venir". Vous remarquez aussi l'absence de posture "dégagiste"...

Pascal Marchand : - Les personnes qui ont répondu au Vrai débat ne sont pas dans une optique de cahier de doléances, mais ils veulent créer un rapport de négociations avec le gouvernement. Ils ne disent pas "on veut tout casser", ils estiment que les bases du "système" ne sont pas forcément mauvaises, mais qu'il est gangrené, qu'il faut l'assainir. Ils ne veulent plus de politiciens qui trahissent leurs promesses, ils ne veulent plus voter utile, ils veulent reprendre en main la politique, pour reprendre confiance dans le système.

Nous avons passé beaucoup de temps, au Lerass, à se demander si nous avions affaire à un mouvement réformiste ou révolutionnaire, mais en réalité le mouvement se situe entre les deux. La "réforme" n'est pas bien vue, d'autant qu'on a l'impression que depuis des années, les réformes vont toujours dans le même sens, celui de la suppression de l'ISF, du recul de l'âge de la retraite, etc. Mais quand ils proposent le RIC, par exemple [Référendum d'initiative populaire, auquel nous avons consacré une émission, NDLR], ils ne le voient pas comme quelque chose de révolutionnaire, mais plutôt comme un moyen de s'opposer à des lois qui n'avaient pas été annoncées lors des campagnes, et de démettre des politiciens qui ne font pas ce qu'ils avaient dit. Ce n'est pas adossé à une demande de 6e République. On voit d'ailleurs que la rhétorique radicale, dont notre laboratoire est habitué à détecter les éléments, est absente du Vrai débat.





ASI : - Ce qui ressort enfin de vos conclusions, c'est la grande technicité des arguments, la bonne connaissance des dossiers dont parlent les contributeurs. Le mouvement des Gilets jaunes aurait-il agi comme une sorte d'université populaire pour ses militants ?

Pascal Marchand : - C'est une hypothèse. C'est vrai que les Gilets jaunes se sont réappropriés les thématiques politiques, c'est d'ailleurs quelque chose que l'on voyait déjà sur Facebook. Le fait de se rencontrer sur les ronds-points, de parler, d'écouter les discours sur les Gilets jaunes et de devoir préparer ses arguments pour y répondre, tout cela pousse à s'investir dans les thématiques politiques.

Some trolls apparently also tried to push propositions to reestablish the death penalty and those got shut down hard.
And... Frexit is also still in there.

Report is here:
https://www.scribd.com/document/403338803/Rapport-Vrai-Debat-Lerass-27-Mars-2019

Llyd
Oct 9, 2012

Kassad posted:

So a bunch of députés got a galaxy brain idea for a bill:

There's probably a constitutional problem with this one, we will see if it passes the law commission.

Kassad posted:

Edit: And speaking of galaxy brain ideas...

https://twitter.com/franceinter/status/1111170044430639104?s=19

"We're removing teacher positions but we're also making the rest work overtime more! :shepface: "

And voting laws forcing teachers to accept at least 2 hours of overtime per week.

Also, if you didn't know, teachers overtime hours are paid less than normal hours, because the base hourly rate is based on the pay you get for your working days only.
It's a mess but basically, instead of doing yearly pay/yearly hours, it's (yearly pay - holiday pay)/yearly hours.

Llyd
Oct 9, 2012

ElNarez posted:

hey are there spanish speakers here? I get that "Manuel Valls" means "Manuel Valls", "Barcelona" is probably "Barcelone", but for the life of me I can't figure out what "humiliació" means

Minor quibble, that's Catalan, not Spanish (Castilian).
In fact, as far as elections in Barcelona are concerned, that's a pretty major quibble.

Llyd
Oct 9, 2012
And here we go, it turns out that the government (current and the ones before) is using the patrimoine budget as a buffer for other stuff, and that the general state of historical monuments in France is quite dire as a result.
Apparently everyone in the know was expecting an incident like that sooner or later.
What we need is a national campaign for the patrimoi.... ah, a tax-free donation scheme thing, right.

https://www.cnews.fr/france/2019-04-16/incendie-de-notre-dame-les-specialistes-du-patrimoine-en-colere-831341

Also, do we think the reconstruction is going to go to the Compagnons or another appropriate organisation, or is Bouygues gonna get it ?

Llyd fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Apr 17, 2019

Llyd
Oct 9, 2012
I'm moving back to the old country this summer after more than 10 years in Brussels.
I'll be working some kind of IT consultancy job, very probably under Syntec.

Any recommendations on a union I can join that does not suck majorly in that sector ?
Maybe just whatever union is already there ?

Llyd
Oct 9, 2012

unpacked robinhood posted:

My previous company almost folded from mismanagement, the CGT was pretty good at protecting our interests and keeping us updated. That's my limited personal anecdote

Toplowtech posted:

Your choices are amongst 5 groups mostly...

Thanks for the info and effort post.

Looks like I should aim for the CGT if available then.

Llyd fucked around with this message at 09:55 on May 19, 2019

Llyd
Oct 9, 2012
Speaking of which, here are some links to share/use for the petition Aéroports de Paris.

Here is a counter for the votes, with 5 to 7 days of delay given how the gov site works. Done by a member of la Quadrature du Net.
(His code has to bypass 2 captchas to get the bloody info).
http://adprip.fr/

And this site that has a complete FAQ and explanations on how to vote, share, participate.
https://referendum-adp.fr/

And if you haven't yet, just loving vote.

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Llyd
Oct 9, 2012

Cat Mattress posted:

Stupid thing has the wrong postal code for my town, preventing me from voting.

Ah, be careful that it does not show the postal code but the Code Officiel Géographique, also known as the code commune.
It's not aligned with the postal code but similar. Both are usually on the wikipedia page of you city.

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