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Sometimes TV shows and comics are successful, and I mean really successful. So successful that they can run for decades, sometimes outliving a good number of its fans. Good examples of this are The Simpsons, Family Guy and DC Comics heroes like Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman. How do these media franchises deal with their longevity? Simple: they make their characters ageless with a floating timeline. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_timeline posted:A floating timeline (also known as a sliding timescale) is a device used in fiction, particularly in comics and animation, to explain why characters age little or not at all over a period of time — despite real-world markers like notable events, people and technology appearing in the works and correlating with the real world. A floating timeline is a subtle form of retroactive continuity. This is seen most clearly in the case of comic book characters who debuted as teens in the 1940s or the 1960s but who are still relatively young in current comics. Events from the characters' pasts are alluded to, but they are changed from having taken place years ago to having taken place more recently. While some franchises (such as those of DC Comics) reset canon from time to time, other series do not, notably the Simpsons and Family Guy. Revisions are made (such as the Simpsons example with Homer and Marge's early relationship) but not everything is updated, and canonical events that occurred in the past are still extant. IMO it leads to the characters not making as much sense and is generally bad. What do you think GBS?
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Jun 28, 2017 01:19
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Is this like how they had 30 year old actors on 90210
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Jun 28, 2017 01:22
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Drunk Nerds posted:Is this like how they had 30 year old actors on 90210 Not really. In this case it's more like Homer never gets old and Bart never hits puberty, and yet the show goes on.
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Jun 28, 2017 01:22
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so its like Sliders?
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Jun 28, 2017 01:26
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It's the fountain of youth but perpetuated by media executives 
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Jun 28, 2017 01:27
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reminder that the simpsons predicted the trump presidency back in 2000 and also that trump bankrupts america by the end of his term
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Jun 28, 2017 01:47
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agreed
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Jun 28, 2017 01:49
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this has got to be a buzzfeed article copy paste. i refuse to believe someone actually posted this in gbs
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Jun 28, 2017 01:52
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Hell Yeah posted:this has got to be a buzzfeed article copy paste. i refuse to believe someone actually posted this in gbs wrote it myself boyo 
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Jun 28, 2017 01:56
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Hell Yeah posted:this has got to be a buzzfeed article copy paste. i refuse to believe someone actually posted this in gbs
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Jun 28, 2017 02:25
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Batman is the most egregious example of this imo. With Superman he's an alien and all so it's possible he's functionally immortal. Batman wouldn't even know when he met his enemies -- they simply were always there.
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Jun 28, 2017 02:30
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I Just poo poo My Pants moving into a tie for the lead here folks. Can't wait to see where this goes. Edit: anyone else seeing a problem with the math in the pool, wtf?
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Jun 28, 2017 02:32
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DC doesn't use a floating timeline, Marvel does. DC just resets continuity like every eight years.
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Jun 28, 2017 02:33
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I think they need a Crisis on Infinite Springfields OP.
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Jun 28, 2017 03:36
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ncumbered_by_idgits posted:I Just poo poo My Pants moving into a tie for the lead here folks. Can't wait to see where this goes. It's set to allow for multiple choice so it may not equal the total number of votes. Go I just poo poo my pants!
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Jun 28, 2017 04:04
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In episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is a magic xylophone or something? Ha ha, boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
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Jun 28, 2017 04:40
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Cubone posted:DC doesn't use a floating timeline, Marvel does. DC just resets continuity like every eight years. Sort of. For years, Marvel did a thing where the characters consistently aged by a year or so for every two or three years in the real world. I think that pretty much broke down when editorial started having a midlife crisis because Spider-Man was too old.
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Jun 28, 2017 05:21
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The Simpsons were good the first 10 seasons. Floating timeline or not they got to be pretty poo poo after that.
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Jun 28, 2017 05:51
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That Robot posted:wrote it myself boyo Hello, Mr. Buzzfeed himself here, would you like to work for me?
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Jun 28, 2017 05:52
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Is this like the parallel universe half a button press guy?
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Jun 28, 2017 05:53
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i never watched the simpsons until last month and then i binged all 28 seasons in like four or five weeks and i know it got better then good then very good then worse then bad but i didn't take notes and im not entirely sure when each stage took place and now i don't know which ones to watch again in the future and im sad that i watched all that simpson and accomplished nothing
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Jun 28, 2017 06:13
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i guess i just have to watch them all again  ill take some notes on this slider timescale too and help make your thread a smash  anything to help out bud
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Jun 28, 2017 06:15
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Didn't Marvel's New Universe imprint about 30 some years ago try to push a "1 month = 1 month" with their titles; for every month that passed in the real world, the story in issues of NU comics would similarly try to pick up around a month later in the timeframe of the characters.
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Jun 28, 2017 06:19
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i just woke up thinkin about marge simpsons titties. if maggie is still drinkin from a bottle does this mean that marge has had milk-filled boobers for 28 years? that's prob why homer is fat, like the beer and donuts contribute obv but he's def drinkin a LOT of milk whilst snuggling and tbh none can blame him
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Jun 28, 2017 13:53
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That Robot posted:Not really. Oh I see. Like how Screech eventually became vice principal on Saved by the Bell, despite never hitting puberty
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Jun 28, 2017 13:58
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It works for some poo poo, and not for other poo poo.
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Jun 28, 2017 14:05
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jon joe posted:Hello, Mr. Buzzfeed himself here, would you like to work for me? I do writing for work no but I do like your av Drunk Nerds posted:Oh I see. Like how Screech eventually became vice principal on Saved by the Bell, despite never hitting puberty Yes indeed Pick posted:It works for some poo poo, and not for other poo poo. Welcome back Pick; I like the new wildcat
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Jun 28, 2017 16:10
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Jun 28, 2017 16:41
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In all honesty the floating timeline hurts the story and is a vehicle for making more money for media conglomerates. There's a reason it's called Zombie Simpsons.
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Jun 29, 2017 01:05
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So it's like when future trunks comes back and slices up fureeza?
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Jun 29, 2017 01:19
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dr.acula posted:So it's like when future trunks comes back and slices up fureeza? Not a ret-con. It's like how Homer met Marge in the 60s-70s in the early seasons and in the 90s in recent systems. The timeline is only in relative, nebulous terms like "ten years ago". That could be any time.  The timeline moves with the present.
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Jun 29, 2017 01:40
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when the show's own anachronism forces it to decide to be relevant or irrelevant- the 90s Simpsons were at about a 70s level of technology in their home since that's what the writers grew up with but the floating timeline forces them to do episodes about ipods and smartphones that feel garishly out of place next to everything that came previously since the writers have no actual conception about how or when normal people adopted this technology in their lives. all the tech and social media poo poo that has changed the very way the world functions is in the writers minds just "what the kids are up to" and its incorporation just ends up hackneyed, lame and just plain out of touch when you see this creeping anachronism (whatbadgerseat.com) it makes it very easy to delineate poo poo and non poo poo simpsons OP t 
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Jun 29, 2017 01:41
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I'm trying to imagine a situation where anyone normal would give even a single poo poo about a "floating timeline" and I'm drawing a complete blank.
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Jun 29, 2017 01:43
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satanic splash-back posted:I'm trying to imagine a situation where anyone normal would give even a single poo poo about a "floating timeline" and I'm drawing a complete blank. Nerd, dude. I'm a loving nerd. When did I ever say I was normal? cool new Polack jokes posted:when the show's own anachronism forces it to decide to be relevant or irrelevant- the 90s Simpsons were at about a 70s level of technology in their home since that's what the writers grew up with but the floating timeline forces them to do episodes about ipods and smartphones that feel garishly out of place next to everything that came previously since the writers have no actual conception about how or when normal people adopted this technology in their lives. all the tech and social media poo poo that has changed the very way the world functions is in the writers minds just "what the kids are up to" and its incorporation just ends up hackneyed, lame and just plain out of touch Yup. Would have been good if they kept it in the 90s.
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Jun 29, 2017 01:45
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the simpsons doesnt work because the writers completely forgot bart is a 10 year old kid, lisa is an 8 year old girl, the babys a baby, marge is lame loving housewife with unusual quirks, and homer is dumb but good-natured father. and so they cant figure out how to make episodes that involve that and its just about the simpsons go to ______ or the trendy new ______ meets simposns the last episode where these were remembered (the last good episode i remember) was the girl who slept too little from season 17. it was all there and i think they put a little more care into the animation for it 1 good episode per decade sounds about right
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Jun 29, 2017 01:49
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That explains why there was donald trump in the 80's, but it's 2017 and there's still donanld trump.
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Jun 29, 2017 03:12
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another example of floating timelines was in Stephen King's It, where in the 50's they all floated, but later in the 80's they also floated
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Jun 29, 2017 03:15
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Hope this doesn't shock op or anyone else but none of them are real. They're fictional. Hope this epiphany doesn't scare any of you.
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Jun 29, 2017 03:20
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repeat to yourself it's just a show, I should really just relax
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Jun 29, 2017 03:29
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hey everybody calm the down. the simpsons is a cartoon
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Jun 29, 2017 04:25
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