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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I'm gonna go through the first doctor over the next few months in anticipation of the first doctor in the Christmas Special.

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Wait, Ecclestone didn't even bother to see the earlier Doctor Who?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I just find it odd that someone from the UK had never seen any Doctor Who.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Eiba posted:

If the doctor is always a white man, then that limits the pool of talent to draw from for future doctors.

Unless there is a push to break new ground with a minority or woman doctor, there won't ever be one. The first is necessarily going to be a bold choice and a big deal, and if you're casting this stuff with the only goal of getting 'the best actor,' a pointless risk.

So even if you just want "the best actor" and don't care about the social implications it's better in the long run to push for more diversity now, even just for the sake of diversity in the moment, to increase the number of actors who 'feel' like the doctor to future generations.


That said, if you don't care about the social implications you've got a really weird set of priorities.

Yeah but if the Doctor isn't a white man, the few bigots who stuck through all the gay people and eThNiC companions would stop watching.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
A scene from an episode from this season?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
What would these troglodytes say if the new Doctor is Queen Elizabeth?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

thexerox123 posted:

*the Doctor regenerates*

"Hachi machi!"

What is happening, Griffin?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
The Doctor is by definition is a white man who I am not afraid of, and not a woman or brown which I am afraid of.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Do we know how long Time Lady menstrual cycles last? They live a long time, what if they last a long time? What if we end up with an entire season where she's on her time period and it's nothing but 12 episodes of her sitting on the couch in the Tardis, eating ice cream, and watching The Real Housewives of Gallifrey?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Bicyclops posted:

This isn't funny even as irony FYI

I'm sorry you hate humor.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
If she was good in Broadchurch, I might have to finally check it out. It's been on my Netflix watchlist for a while.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
This would be a great time to release another Bluray of the 50th anniversary special with the new Doctor added in to the end.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
It's like when internet libertarians say they love Star trek, but get angry when there's socialism or women or black people.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I think it is safe to say that if you express an opinion about anything, someone somewhere is ready to call you a bigot or a cuck or whatever catchphrase that group has.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Slowpoke! posted:

Is there another promo, or are we talking about the reveal promo? Because I thought that was bad and she has already said that isn't her official costume.

Not that any of us were expecting a real teaser promo for next season. There's no way they could have filmed anything more than they did, but let's not kid ourselves. You can't gleam much from that promo other than "That's Jodie Whittaker."

It is clearly Capaldi's costume.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Maybe the TARDIS is a man now

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

n4 posted:

One can dream. Eccleston really seems to be against ever doing any Doctor Who stuff again though.

It seems like recently he regrets leaving the show. Kind of sucks that he wouldn't even consider taking part in the 50th.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I wish Doctor Who had something similar to Star Trek's Memory Alpha/Beta. Everything is all jumbled together and it is a bit annoying trying to figure things out about the show, the wiki is filled with a bunch of comic/audio book stuff.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Doctor Who, not Doctor "WOO Girl"

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Wheat Loaf posted:

I haven't actually read any Miss Marple stories. :(

You might want to hurry up. If the BBC replaces her with a man, it somehow erases all the original female stories.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Bringing up The War Doctor just makes me want to know more about what he did. Now we'll never know, because John Hurt is dead.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Why would they relegate that line to a deleted scene?

"Every time the TARDIS materializes in a new location, within the first nanosecond of landing, it analyzes its surroundings, calculates a 12 dimensional data map of everything within a 1000 mile radius, and determines which outer shell would blend in best with the environment. And then it disguises itself as a police telephone box from 1963."

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I watched Vincent and the Doctor just yesterday. It's probably one of my favorite episodes. I love shows that take place in history times, so that was good. I also enjoyed how they portrayed the way no one gave a rats rear end about his paintings in his time. The tragic tale of the invisible, blind chicken was nice, but Van Gogh was really cool. It was interesting how they thought they could prevent his suicide by showing him that people would one day love his paintings, and regard him as one of the greatest artists. In the end, he went back to his time, and even though he knew he would one day be loved, he was still alone, and people of that time still didn't care about his paintings. He knew he would never live long to enough to see when people appreciated his art and had nothing to live for.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Lampsacus posted:

He's charismatic and knows how to generate fun out of nothing. Of course, it is all clearly directed at children so I guess its just subjective taste? He is awfully good at what he does though.

He'll be a big hit with the brexit crowd when he starts disparaging the Jews.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I think I prefer 11 to the other new doctors. Or maybe I just really like Amy Pond. There are a lot of good two parters in Smith's run, as well as some great single episodes. I really like where Capaldi went with the character towards the end of his run, but Smith's era is really good.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I wish the episode descriptions on Amazon were more helpful. Like give one or two sentences of what the episode is about instead of weird jokey poo poo like "The BBC would like to thank the families of the fake space station for allowing us to show this footage."

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
The concept of River Song is kind of cool. They meet each other backwards in time or whatever. But then it is handled really badly. The impossible astronaut couple of episodes are really cool but ruined by the river song plot.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I think I'll have to watch the doctors wife again. It didn't jive with me the first time.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I never understood why he had a super jump ability.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

toanoradian posted:

Irregardless, such prescriptivist notion of language is literally the worst thing ever. Decimate your account.

DECIMATE THIS!

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I for one trust a wacky woman who jokes around and plays a wacky woman who jokes around.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Matt Smith looks like the weird kid whose birthday party you don't want to go to but your mom makes you go anyway.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
One thing I don't get, is how do time lords age? When 10 got age zapped by the master, he turned into golem. When 11 was protecting Trenazlor or whatever it is for 300 years, he was visibly older. When 12 showed up, he started out older looking and what not. I suppose it is ok that they can regenerate into a whatever kind of age looking human. But did 1 grow up? How long did he live to look that old before regenerating? Were people saying "You look like poo poo, why don't you just shoot yourself and regenerate?"

I guess this is a bit too much "Scratchy clearly hit the same bone twice but produced two different notes."

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
The farting aliens almost made me give up because, really? This is the great Doctor Who everyone is obsessed with?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
"Hey Peter, we actually need to do one more epi-"
"I'm already on set and in costume, where's everyone else?"

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Timby posted:

That part's never bothered me too much. What does aggravate me is the ending of The Day of the Doctor, when it's clearly setting up Matt Smith for a whole new journey to find Gallifrey, and then he just goes "peace out."

Well he does go to Trenzalor and it turns out Gallifrey is in that crack, so he kind of does find them.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
They were thieves? I thought they were salvagers. Did everyone forget that the Doctor specifically told them they could start scrapping the TARDIS if they helped find Clara?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Bicyclops posted:

I'm so glad that we can now spend another ten pages of people being obtuse about how maybe, just maybe, the portrayal of those three characters was insensitive at best, and we can split hairs about how they're not thieves but salvage crews, despite the fact that they very clearly are trying to take things the Doctor repeatedly begs them not to take, and only offers them anything at all because they have put him in a terrible position.

They put him in a terrible position? They initially thought it was too dangerous to deal with so they wanted to throw the TARDIS back into space. Instead, The Doctor tells them they would have the salvage of a lifetime if they help him look for Clara. This is clearly a trick because not only would he not just give his TARDIS away, he even tells them once inside that the salvage was actually Clara, not the TARDIS. Then once they are inside he locks the doors, traps them inside, and activates what they think is a self destruct set for 30 minutes. The one guy starts disassembling the control room because they are shady scrappers and that's what happens in every plot situation like this no matter what color the person is. Then the other guy steals that egg thing because, faced with the possibility of an object that can create anything, it's too good to pass up. This is also what always happens in plots like this no matter what color the person is. But I guess you can twist things however you want as long as you can get offended by it.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
That's a nice strawman you built there, but like I said, they weren't car thieves. They brought the TARDIS onboard because they thought it was scrap, and then they tried to scrap it after they thought they were invited to scrap it. The episode is stereotypical in that it's yet another "new characters are on a space ship and are supposed to be helping but they are actually doing something nefarious" plot similar to Star Trek's Starship Mine. But that isn't even applicable because The Doctor actually tells them they can scrap the TARDIS if they help find Clara. The carjacking thing is people trying to make up a problem to complain about. I'm sick of the stereotypical goon bullshit of "This show is actually racist, if you don't see it you're just obtuse, discussion over, I win." There's enough problematic episodes of sci-fi out there like Star Trek's Code of Honor, and Stargate's Emancipation that crying racism every time a black person is cast in a role where they do something bad is counter-productive.

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

LividLiquid posted:

Can you at least understand that though there is an out for the writer and the casting director, and everybody involved, in the form of your argument, that as presented, the characters unintentionally played upon the stereotype of black people being car thieves?

No, I can't. I don't see how what they did could be tied to something black people stereotypically do, instead of something a character of any race does in a treasure hunting story. At no point do they hijack the TARDIS, so the car jacking complaint is just stupid. Like I've said two times now, they only want to even salvage the TARDIS after they get kidnapped and trapped inside by The Doctor. While searching for Clara, they decide to split up and one or two of them decide to start salvaging things on the way. While this is a stereotype of these types of stories, it is not a black stereotype. Then one of them is faced with the greatest find of all time, one that would make him inconceivably rich and he falls for it. This is also a stereotype of these kinds of stories, but once again, not a black stereotype. Yes, The Doctor asks him not to take the egg thing because the TARDIS doesn't want him to, but at this point he is so enamored with the thought of a device that can make anything, that he doesn't listen to reason. You see this in any kind of movie or TV show where someone finds some rare treasure and are told they can't take it because it is a curse or a trap or whatever. I still don't even know why you are calling them thieves. In the grand scheme of things, they are technically stealing things because The Doctor lied to them, but they don't know this. The entire time they are in the TARDIS they are under the assumption that they are allowed to take those things because The Doctor explicitly tells them they will be allowed to scrap the TARDIS in exchange for finding Clara. Going back to that incident where one of them takes that device and the TARDIS seals them in that room. The guy who thinks he is an android gives you exactly what you want and refuses to cut through the wall while telling his brother that the TARDIS is a living they and they shouldn't hurt it.

I've already said the same thing three times and I don't feel like saying it anymore, so I'm done with this topic unless someone has something new to add.

Cojawfee fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Aug 7, 2017

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