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Hilario Baldness posted:

Let's amass Tiberium and form the Brotherhood of Nod. It's the only logical thing that we can do.

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Mr. Sharps posted:

yeah we just gotta use a looooot of data.

like a whole whole lot.

im confident it can be done.

you know you can't actually create "data" in this sense right? it's just matter/energy you can't make more of it than it already present in a system

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Scionix posted:

Just graduated + got job in career path (software dev), where do I go to learn how to invest my money beyond adult child toys and 401k such that it doesn't explode when the market tanks and I inevitably am replaced by a overworked H1B visa that gets payed 1/3rd of what I make. Disclaimer: im a huge retard

we call it warhammer 401k

realtalk: ask cumshitter

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rudatron posted:

Bitcoin is going to crash when tech does, its one of the stupidest things out there

the value of bitcoin is almost entirely dependent on how long it has been since the most recent major bnm bust, it's pretty funny

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A Buttery Pastry posted:

The economy could be shifted from a mass consumer economy to one basically centered around maintaining a supply chain for the lives of rich people - sort of shrinking the world economy down to a few globalized "chiefdoms" where the majority of labor is machine labor, plus whatever few people are needed to keep things running smoothly.

This sounds incredibly vulnerable to sabotage or outright subversion.

Which wouldn't stop anyone from doing it, mind you.

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Tastykake posted:

also, forced labor camps

another day at the posting mines

*develops blood clots in his legs from not being allowed to stand up from his chair*

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white people used to say this about the japanese too, until anime taught us that their culture actually had a vintage stock of pure creative madness hiding in the cellar all along

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tbf, gagnam style (of all things) promoted the chinese to wonder if they weren't stifling their own creativity too much

considering how drat creative the chinese classics are, it certainly isnt the case that there's no precedent for creativity there

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PIZZA.BAT posted:

i thought this was because they both have had an extremely rich and varied history going back millennia but they also play fast and loose with said history so it becomes a general comedic catch-all where you aren’t sure if the speaker is bullshitting you or not

just here to point out that "they" could just as easily refer to the west here and it would be really accurate

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these guys have the unusual distinction of being a band I got into before they started doing game soundtracks instead of vice versa

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silentsnack posted:

Some people think that their silly metaphysical opinions are relevant and want others to feel the same way, the rest of us are generally okay with tuning out and continuing to give zero gently caress.

It's a conflict that humanity will need to resolve before we can declare we've achieved perfect utopia forever, but not really a critical issue.

The problem is that you can't not have silly metaphysical opinions, and if you don't acknowledge and examine the ones you have you end up being a huge chauvinist about it.

Like most people who say things like this tend to wind up being logical positivists, which is a late 19th/early 20th century philosophical position so incoherent that when the people who invented it finished writing it down, they took one look at it and went on to actually make useful contributions to philosophy by articulating exactly how wrong and stupid they were to ever think it could be correct.

That's actually the story of how Popper came up with falsifiability, amount other things.

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silentsnack posted:

Yeah, agnosticism is especially dumb since we get all the same drawbacks of the realities of the human condition, but saying "yea I don't fuggen know" doesn't give quite the same positive happyfeels or comfort as some alternatives. :v:

Ey not beefing here, just postin some bullshit.

Agnostism is limited to god, of course, or at least towards explicitly stated positions. At the end of the day, you have to make metaphysical assumptions in order to interpret the world.

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Giga Gaia posted:

big jrpg energy

if on your path you should meet the buddha, cast vanish and then doom on him

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Nomnom Cookie posted:

maybe you do, but I know that Number is everything

number... and orb. always always orb

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redleader posted:

it's also deep learning so is bullshit by definition

deep learning is when you find the deep web and learn that it's mostly abandoned message boards containing mostly spambots talking to each other

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Crowsbeak posted:

As someone who has one class left to get a Econ degree. They literally are. Economics increasingly likes to think and treat itself as a hard science. Even though it obviously is not.

as I understand it, there's also an issue with whole schools of economic thought considering their assumptions immune to empirical evidence

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i hope kant beats the poo poo out of that fucker in hell

like just swoops down from whatever circle actual philosophers hang in and kicks the tar out of him

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Chakan posted:



thank you mr president

oh great, now he's channeling the spirit of cspam from the astral plane

we welcome your obese and flatulent presence, oh bewigged one

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jetz0r posted:

I guess the takeaway here is that NOS is so good that you'll drink it until it kills you, then keep drinking it?

capitalism in a bottle?

also isn't the name a reference to nitric oxide producing chemicals in the drink, the point of which is ultimately to lower blood pressure (thus facilitating blood circulation during exercise)?

because lol at the idea you're going to lower your bp with an energy drink

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Farm Frenzy posted:

hes just doing financial journalism which is jsut regular journalism but for rich people. nobody in power actually believes in economics

well, they do have a caste of powerful servants like greenspan who are priest/technocrats of neoliberal schools of thought and are in some cases very much true believers (thinking of greenspan himself as a public and influential example)


i'm not sure what their influence still is. when i took a civil service course by an ex-provincial minister of finance, things like neoliberal austerity vs keynesianism or the more laudable recent push towards inclusiveness were described as "ideas in good standing" in the context of crafting policy- ie, de facto received truths that must be accounted for in order for a policy to be adopted.

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number is not bound by material reality, it merely blesses us by gorging on our world

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Horseshoe theory posted:

NUMBER will CRUSH 27,000 today - BET ON IT! TRUMP!

pfft, as if number only crushes a puny five figures of human lives a day

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Shear Modulus posted:

the only part where they're wrong is where they think there's a second side so that "neither" side would care

oh they care

that people are motivated to work!

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Cup Runneth Over posted:

I don't get why people are so worried about gulags when they're literally more humane than the current American prison system which has the largest prison population in the world by a very, very wide margin

They are just prisons for counter-revolutionaries. They aren't pleasant but not uniquely awful either.

there's a weird disconnect where the same people who are literally happy to see the rich and their stans die horribly suddenly wring their hands over keeping them out of power after a successful revolution and talking as if we aren't discussing people they actively want dead and post it regularily

like im happy to see this guy die of covid, but for some reason want to defend his right to hold a position in government?

do I get an inalienable right to an influential position where firing me for sabotage on behalf of capital and maybe imprisoning me will be treated as if it were a betrayal of the revolution out of this deal?

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like im not going to read people's post histories or anything, but if you've posted about lusting for chud death and think a good remedy to the failure of reconstruction would have been killing more white southerners why the gently caress are you so opposed to preventing chuds from undermining a successful revolution?

do you think a successful revolution means everyone agrees to play by your rules? do you think the people who turned reconstruction into segregation aren't going to pull every last lovely trick they can to turn your socialist utopia into reconstruction 2: idiot libs never learn? because those racist chuds are smarter than you, and you aren't making that hard.

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human garbage bag posted:

No, that is the responsibility of the boss's boss. A bad boss would cause worker productivity to go down, which the boss's boss would notice and investigate, and when they realize that the boss is the problem they will replace them with a better boss if possible.

g...getfiscal?

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Azuth0667 posted:

You're a terrible poster but, this is one of the few times you're correct. There is so much infighting and arguing over who has the better words/philosophy that the objective of actually getting power is lost.

The current dems and biden are conservatives that don't want mean words said aloud and they won't get evicted from government if everyone is too busy fighting each other instead of the problem.

Number seems to love this though and keeps going up.

the fundamental flaw here is assuming a revolution will come from a bunch of people posting on a message board

or more broadly, disaffected, educated, and in some respects privileged people

the mistake of any revolutionary thought coming from this perspective is the idea that we're the leaders, the "idea guys." but the thing telling you that your ideas are super-important and that you should take a leadership role is the very system that you think you want to overthrow. the reality is that while we can do good, if leadership is coming from us on more than an incidental basis, something is very wrong. our ideas are no better or more important than anyone else's, and listening to and amplifying the ideas of people who are desperate and fighting for change is way more important than our own ideas, at least insofar as we're goons and not something else offline.

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uncop posted:

Historically speaking though, disaffected, but educated&privileged people are one of the core levers of revolution, and that was the case for socialist revolutions as well. The idea that privileged people should simply leave leadership positions to someone else is like the bargaining stage of confronting one's privilege: "Could I keep it if I did absolutely gently caress all with it?" And people who have learned to see that as a honest admission of worthlessness answer: "Sure, whatever, just keep out of the way!" But both are avoiding the responsibility to beat out the worthlessness and put the rare skills to good use. I honestly and deeply admire people like Elise who decide to take initiative and wade elbow deep into the poo poo because they know they have a special something that others need, even though they (presumably) also had the privilege not to be a part of any of it.

It is true. In fact, privilege is both the cause and result of real, material investment in a person; investment which can potentially be turned to revolutionary ends. This is why defectors from the bourgeois and even aristocracy are welcome if they are sincere. And many of us were raised and educated as bourgeois, even if we were objectively impoverished.

However, no defector is likely to be welcome if they come assuming they are there to lead and their special knowledge of academic thought or arguing online should confer privilege. It's important to acknowledge that the value of these arguments is largely that they increase our knowledge of Marxist thought and revolutionary history. And that these are tools to use in the service of others who are not present, with priorities which we can at best guess at.

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uncop posted:

Woke up this morning thinkin ”You know, maybe I really have become just a cheap troll provoking people without having a point important enough to start making GBS threads it up”, but then I had the misfortune of reading this.

No, the ”whole loving point” of leftist solidarity isn’t to lecture the prole into having more sympathy for everyone earning 3x as much. The crucial disconnect goes the exact opposite way around, like just shoot me already. The kind of ”intersectionality” that’s almost exclusively employed to lecture the downtrodden about not being inclusive enough belongs in the garbage. The useful point of intersectionality is that people who actually do have solidarity and a shared goal together shouldn’t ignore the differences in their members’ needs and goals or that solidarity will be compromised.

this is literally what intersectionality was created to do. it was originally articulated in terms of the problem of black women in feminism and the civil rights movement, although it was recognized to have much wider application. the problem was such: as feminists, the needs and experiences of black women would often be dismissed as racial issues, and in the civil rights movement, black women had to deal with people who would dismiss their issues as women's issues. in both cases, they were told to wait until the problem of gender or race was solved.

these women and their comrades who saw similar conflicts as unacceptable on both ethical and practical grounds articulated intersectionality as a solution to this sort of barrier to solidarity. it is mostly used online by libs who at best face fundamental challenges to understanding the concept of solidarity, whereas i learned the term in grad school and rarely used it online because while i can explain it to c-spam in a short paragraph, dropping it into random online conversation at a point where the term was literally only encountered by activists and college students took at lot more effort.

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bawfuls posted:

It is fitting that uncop would come back with a big meltdown over imagined things no one has said, since this is the poster who started the whole stupid derail in the first place by calling the median household income in America a glorious sum.

as for NUMBER, haven’t we learned from cumshitter? it goes up. 2020 is the year we can normalize anything: thousands of daily deaths to a pandemic, open election fraud, tens of millions soon to be homeless, an orgy of cop violence in every city, fed printing on overdrive. :matters:

thias is serious people

it is said in the prophecy that if bad posts are ever allowed in c-spam, the fate of the world will be put in the hands of, poo poo let me see

ah, yes, donald trump

...gently caress

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Fly Molo posted:

lmao welcome to this world

67k isn't a great income in america, but that the privilege associated with such a position can be described as immense is a measure not of the decadence of such an income or the status it affords, but the pathetic state of our society and world, in which there is no bottom to reach, only an endless pit of further misery. the state of the american health care system is the best example of how the entire system is failing such that a person in such a position shares many concerns with those below them, far more than with those above them. i'm not going to begrudge a comrade a somewhat higher income, though. gently caress, do you know how much privilege i have just from being born in canada? can you even put a dollar tag on not having to worry about six figures of debt for talking to a doctor?

liberalism treats privilege as spiritual, a form of sin which accumulates alongside success and in need of ritual cleansing. it is instead the result of labour and resources invested in us by society, by many people varying motives and goals. that these resources are not distributed justly is a problem to solve, any stain on our soul is secondary to the question of making real material improvements in the lives of everyone. this has created many people with skills that capital systematically undervalues, with a lot to offer a hypothetical revolution or socialist state or whatever. that is a good, not bad thing; the bad thing is that this investment is being wasted when we desperately want to use to improve our communities and the lives of those around us.

it also comes with a share of brain poisoning, like everything else. if what you are saying is that what this amounts to in concrete material terms is at best modest and reasonable, you may well be correct. if what you are saying is that an income in 67k does not represent a huge amount of privilege, that would be brain poisoning. it is simply that our overlords presently think of a reasonable and modest existence as a grand gesture of munificence.

Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Aug 18, 2020

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cumshitter posted:

heres a tip to save money on your utility bill: for the cost of an extra long hose you can hook up your toilet to the hot water supply and poo poo and piss for free, since most rental units have no way to measure hot water usage

also you can give it a pre-flush to warm up the seat.

i'm now curious how many clients have eagerly noted this life hack and bvreathlessly praised you for the resulting savings

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bagual posted:

lol at motherfuckers complaining 67k being too high, this year i got hired as a computer toucher for 3,400 dollars yearly here in brazil, earning more and working less than most of my friends, and i still should just fuckin want to kill you all according to your logic, but you see, i'm not a dumb babby

imagine the mind-bending enormous mass of people at 0$ yearly hating you, that's something capitalists should worry about, not leftists

and i salute our higher earning comrades as they can contribute to the struggle by financing revolutionary action, such as giving me money right now im poor lmao :pray:

it's cool

and like it's c-spam and all, but it would help if you actually read the posts you were replying to

purely optional though

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bagual posted:

jokes on you, i'm illiterate

fuuuckk i'm owned

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i have a pet theory that when we say hard work we mean physical or intellectual labour, while when someone in finance says hard work they largely mean doing a lot of coke

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slippery doc posted:

working hard, dick hardly working

honestly there's no way they aren't doing steroids too

no idea if that helps stim dick tho

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cumshitter posted:

youre missing the important point. if one person controls half of the market then it amkes contrarian investing, and timely movemenets under that investing strategy, extremely profitable


or you can just follow them. either or. its literally impossible to lose money in the market because stocks only go up\

*points to cloud*

thats where stocks live

we are currently in the phase of the i ching known as divorce or discord. in this configuration, heaven (yang) is above and earth (yin) below. this may seem desirable, but the nature of yang is to ascend, and the nature of yin to descend. thus heaven and earth only drift further apart rather than coming together in this scenario.

the configuration that is its desirable counterpart is harmony, in which heaven is below earth and the two naturally meet and have sweet sweet (symbolic) sex.

for some reason, placing ones faith in what amounts to a clever advice giving computer script you can run by hand using coin flips to generate the binaries seems perfectly rational in this context

Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Aug 21, 2020

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please, the canadian version held on to power longer and also believed his dead mother talked to him through his dog

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punished milkman posted:

goons have been consistent in being absolutely terrible at predicting the outcome of literally anything

it turns out the sane, rational outcome is not actually more likely

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