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| Brock vs Joe |
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25 | 27.78% |
| Roman vs Braun |
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15 | 16.67% |
| Seth vs Bray |
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1 | 1.11% |
| Alexa vs Sasha |
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10 | 11.11% |
| Iron Man Tag Match |
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9 | 10.00% |
| Enzo vs Big Cass |
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7 | 7.78% |
| The Miz vs Ambrose |
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3 | 3.33% |
| Neville vs Tozawa |
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20 | 22.22% |
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I like that Miz only has two opponents to name because he's been in such an endless loop of Dean matches.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:29
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the miz is so good on these shows and axel must have learned from him because he did great too
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Jul 10, 2017 04:29
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I like Curtis "Menswear" Axel
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Jul 10, 2017 04:30
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SamuraiFoochs posted:That was the last great solo match Brock had except MAYBE the Taker HIAC. Ehhhh, SummerSlam '14 was great in its time (it's been diluted fairly heavily since) and WM 31 was good. Miz, Bo and Axeman were really good in that.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:30
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Solid show, wonderful thread, thanks guys  Only two weeks till Battleground.... 
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Jul 10, 2017 04:30
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Nope. People overrate Brock/Heyman and underrate Roman, though they both have many of the same issues. Roman's a solid wrestler at WWE style but he's so terrible at the babyface role they've put him in he actively makes me not want to watch the show week to week. Brock holding the belt and only wrestling once every few months is dumb as hell and he needs to drop it soon, but he doesn't make me cringe on a weekly basis like Roman's character does.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:31
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They were going to have Brock on but he's already on his rocket tractor back to Canada
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Jul 10, 2017 04:32
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CubsWoo posted:They were going to have Brock on but he's already on his rocket tractor back to Canada I hear he just straps it to his wrist and throws it towards Saskatchewan, like Thor's hammer in the old-school comics.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:33
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Bray Hollywood and Dad Perfect, the miztourage
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Jul 10, 2017 04:34
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Jerusalem posted:Only two weeks till Battleground.... That's why everyone's overrating this show, they know the Punjabi Prison match will easily be the worst match of either card and make all of these look like classics in comparison
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Jul 10, 2017 04:35
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Brock is good and one of the few draws
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Jul 10, 2017 04:36
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I thought the show wasn't great up until Roman happened. I am much more interested in Raw than I have been in months just to see how they make this out to be a virtuous action
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Jul 10, 2017 04:36
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Ragnarok the Red posted:Roman's a solid wrestler at WWE style but he's so terrible at the babyface role they've put him in he actively makes me not want to watch the show week to week. That's only BECAUSE Brock rarely shows up. Here's the thing. Roman is arguably bad for the product, but Brock, who has been poo poo largely because he doesn't care and admittedly because The Ballad of Brock and Roman hasn't finished to Vince's satisfaction yet, is holding half of the entire product hostage and weighing it down. Raw, in essence, has no top title. I can't wait for Brock to vanish forever.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:38
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I'm kinda new to wrestling in general so I still don't entirely get the hate for Roman, all I've seen of him (mostly the strowman feud) has been pretty fantastic. Lesnar on the other hand put on a premature ejaculation of a match that killed all the excitement that Joe and Heyman built up for me, has a lazy moveset that mostly consists of two moves, is apparently mostly absent from the day to day stuff, and can't really sell his beast gimmick without heyman. gently caress that guy.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:39
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:That's going to be summerslam if they have any loving sense i hate to be the bearer of bad news but i don't think they have any intention of pushing enzo in any way
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Jul 10, 2017 04:39
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brock is bad. hes big zeke with germans instead of scoop slams
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Jul 10, 2017 04:40
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tweet my meat posted:I'm kinda new to wrestling in general so I still don't entirely get the hate for Roman, all I've seen of him (mostly the strowman feud) has been pretty fantastic. The Strowman feud is a rarity where Roman is allowed to look weak.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:40
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tweet my meat posted:I'm kinda new to wrestling in general so I still don't entirely get the hate for Roman, all I've seen of him (mostly the strowman feud) has been pretty fantastic. the hate for reigns largely stems from him being pushed into the spotlight a bit before he was ready (particularly on promos) instead of people the fans would rather have seen pushed like daniel bryan before he was forced into retirement. he's been doing really good in-ring work for a while now and has improved a lot on promos but people will still stick to their guns on hating him irrationally.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:42
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Here's the thing I don't get about those defending Brock. Do you guys not realize that he only exists as a monster to put Roman over? I'd be much more forgiving if there was a CHANCE that anyone other than Roman would beat hm. It should've been Joe. Plain and simple. They shoulda just pulled the trigger. You'd have made a new star, it would've worked, and the crowd would've loved it.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:42
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what we definitely need to do is overexpose more wrestlers
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Jul 10, 2017 04:42
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SamuraiFoochs posted:That's only BECAUSE Brock rarely shows up. Here's the thing. Roman is arguably bad for the product, but Brock, who has been poo poo largely because he doesn't care and admittedly because The Ballad of Brock and Roman hasn't finished to Vince's satisfaction yet, is holding half of the entire product hostage and weighing it down. Raw, in essence, has no top title. Here's the ultimate problem: Brock is very good at what WWE (and he, presumably) wants him to do, but what they want him to do is dogshit and bad for the product. Roman, meanwhile, is terrible at what WWE wants him to do and what they want him to do is dogshit and also bad for the product. Lesnar has at least the potential to be great, and we see flashes of it whenever he decides to do something that isn't a german suplex. There is always the chance that at least something cool might happen in a Brock match. Roman is always going to be Roman. There's no upside. There's no potential. It's shameful backs all the way down. Any unpredictable cool spot ain't coming from Roman.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:45
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Here's the thing I don't get about those defending Brock. Do you guys not realize that he only exists as a monster to put Roman over? I'd be much more forgiving if there was a CHANCE that anyone other than Roman would beat hm. It should've been Joe. Plain and simple. They shoulda just pulled the trigger. You'd have made a new star, it would've worked, and the crowd would've loved it. Jinder will unify the belts
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Jul 10, 2017 04:45
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Let's all just stop saying "here's the thing"
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Jul 10, 2017 04:45
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Here's the thing I don't get about those defending Brock. Do you guys not realize that he only exists as a monster to put Roman over? I'd be much more forgiving if there was a CHANCE that anyone other than Roman would beat hm. It should've been Joe. Plain and simple. They shoulda just pulled the trigger. You'd have made a new star, it would've worked, and the crowd would've loved it. Wrong. It should be Braun.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:45
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Basic Chunnel posted:Let's all just stop saying "here's the thing" the fact of the matter is
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Jul 10, 2017 04:46
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shiksa posted:goldust and r truth arent tonight? why am i even watch this fucken pay-per-view
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Jul 10, 2017 04:47
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Here's the thing I don't get about those defending Brock. Do you guys not realize that he only exists as a monster to put Roman over? This is another knock against Roman and not one against Brock, so your argument is sorta failing here.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:48
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Basic Chunnel posted:Let's all just stop saying "here's the thing" here's the thing no
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Jul 10, 2017 04:49
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brock left, won legit gold, and actually came back, so of course vince bends over backwards for him. if there's one thing to learn, abuse vince's abandonment issues and you'll get the best deal in the world.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:50
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Basic Chunnel posted:Let's all just stop saying "here's the thing" The thing is is
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Jul 10, 2017 04:50
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Basic Chunnel posted:Let's all just stop saying "here's the thing"
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Jul 10, 2017 04:50
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The entire company exists as a vehicle to put Roman over, a strategy that only works when a universally loved face (Hogan, Austin to a lesser extent since he had Rock and etc. at or nearly at his level) is at the top of the card.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:50
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ChuckDeNomolos posted:brock left, won legit gold, and actually came back, so of course vince bends over backwards for him. if there's one thing to learn, abuse vince's abandonment issues and you'll get the best deal in the world. The UFC heavyweight division isn't really legit.
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Jul 10, 2017 04:51
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Aphrodite posted:The UFC heavyweight division isn't really legit. as opposed to
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Jul 10, 2017 04:52
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Aphrodite posted:The UFC heavyweight division isn't really legit. its legitimately bad!
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Jul 10, 2017 04:53
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Mel Mudkiper posted:as opposed to An actual gold medal I guess?
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Jul 10, 2017 04:55
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what a good show
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Jul 10, 2017 04:55
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Basic Chunnel posted:Let's all just stop saying "here's the thing" THE TRUTH IS, YOU PEOPLE...
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Jul 10, 2017 04:56
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CubsWoo posted:The entire company exists as a vehicle to put Roman over, a strategy that only works when a universally loved face (Hogan, Austin to a lesser extent since he had Rock and etc. at or nearly at his level) is at the top of the card. They put Braun over massively tonight OP
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So I'd have to say the highlights for me were the ambulance match, the iron man match, and the women's championship match. All 3 were pretty fantastic and had good endings.
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