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kanonvandekempen posted:It's hard to judge from a trailer, but look at the shot of the jaeger bursting out of a building from the trailer. Yeah, I think for most people who haven't been as engaged by this trailer as the visuals of PR1, this is the reason for it. The robots move like humans in robot costumes, not like enormous machines made up of multitudes of independent, moving parts. Most of the stuff that made the original robot presentation so incredible - that gave the impression of real weight, real force, of personality, of souls - has been dropped in favor of giant robot kung fu, which IMO just isn't nearly as compelling.
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Democratic Pirate posted:Hey Steve, I’ll take one Pacific Rim: Blood and Sand please. I knew those fight snippets from the trailer looked familiar.
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viral spiral posted:Thank you. Rewatch the Gypsy Danger vs. Knifehead fight. Gypsy raising it's arms before smashing Knifehead into the ocean took time and power. One of my top-3 favorite scenes. Everything about it - the deliberate wind-up, the entire robot seeming to bend to the Herculean effort of raising two building sized arms, the ratcheting clink-clink-clink to cement the impression of massive machinery being brought under tension - just came together so well. And then in the trailer they've got giant robots pulling off inertia-less roundhouse kicks to the head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXB-5MbKBgs
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Oct 10, 2017 23:51
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Panfilo posted:Yeah they really need to take a bit from this style while trying not to be as embarrassingly racist as sombrero wearing Mexican Gundam The canonical Mexican Jaeger is called 'Matador Fury.'
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Oct 11, 2017 21:50
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:And is piloted by ex-cons. IIRC, weren't they convicts who were basically piloting in exchange for freedom?
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Oct 12, 2017 00:05
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Inescapable Duck posted:Also possibly hella radiation poisoning, which seems to be an occupational hazard even for pilots who don't travel to another dimension. That was really a Mk I thing, though. Although I suppose they could always conveniently retcon it to "we thought the Mk II and IIIs had sufficient shielding; we were wrong" or something.
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Oct 12, 2017 17:40
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Rough Lobster posted:gently caress I'd pilot a giant robot for free. I'd purposefully go to jail if I knew robo justice was a possible outcome. Good news - they died in their "this is totally your last fight before you get to walk" fight. Panfilo posted:I'm bummed Raleigh won't be in it. What about Hannibal Chau? He was great in the first one. Inescapable Duck posted:He did climb into the reactor to set the self-destruct personally. Aha that's right. Welp. Habibi fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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Oct 12, 2017 19:59
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Boo that they changed the ending of PR just to have Hannibal survive for a possible sequel...only for him not to appear in it.
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Oct 12, 2017 20:39
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Mordiceius posted:Bring him back for the 3rd film! Pacific Rim: Atlantic Rim
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Oct 12, 2017 21:14
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Make him do mocap for a Kaiju too. A Penguin Kaiju. If we're going to cross some poo poo over, let's do it right.
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Oct 23, 2017 21:48
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Oct 24, 2017 16:18
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"You lookin' at me? You lookin'at me?? Hey - down here!"
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Oct 25, 2017 20:31
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SHISHKABOB posted:That trailer and the way they had all the young people standing together reminded me a LOT of the Independence Day sequel, where I feel like they had a bunch of young people also standing together a bunch. That's funny, because I found the first one to basically be: Independence Day: Robots v Monsters Edition. Obviously there was the whole Pentecost "cancelling the apocalypse" speech, which tried so hard to ape the president's speech from ID4. But so many other elements, including the entire climax and resolution - having to ride an 'alien ship' to interface with and gain access to their base of operations to nuke them from the inside - felt pulled straight out of that movie.
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Oct 25, 2017 20:43
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Panfilo posted:Crimson Typhoon. Unfortunately this is an example of the 'Worf Effect'. The Kaiju wouldn't seem as much of a threat if they didn't defeat any Jagers on screen, so they had to kill off two of them just to show how dangerous Leatherback and Otachi were. Habibi fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Nov 23, 2017 |
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Nov 23, 2017 23:29
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Cythereal posted:And to think in the thread we were all expecting Striker to get chumped to establish the threat, since it was the most advanced and powerful of the lot. quote:Still mad that the only really interesting looking mechs were there as cannon fodder. Gypsy and Striker were visually boring as battle mechs go. Agree on Stryker, but despite the somewhat generic humanoid appearance, I dug the poo poo out of Gipsy's design details. All the moving parts, the exposed machinery, the swagger... Don't get me wrong - there's a reason I own a Cherno Alpha figurine, and I would have loved to see both it and Typhoon get more non-death-scene screen time, but I also feel like they were also fairly gimmicky.
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Nov 24, 2017 05:28
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Characters successfully talk to the giant monsters in the movie Pacific Rim, which you presumably watched. But which you clearly didn't.
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Nov 27, 2017 21:35
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Ferrinus posted:They drift with a Kaiju, which is like, several steps more profound than talking. Or several steps less, depending on what ends you wish your "talks" to achieve. In this case, the drift was more an uncontrollable info dump than "talking," which carries an implication of conscious and substantive exchange of information and ideas. And of course, the capacity for that drift it was made possible by slaughtering Kaiju in the first place, so, again, I'm just enjoying SMG once again sperging out over movies he hasn't actually watched.
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Nov 27, 2017 22:36
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Ferrinus posted:Not so. Substantive amounts of information go in both directions, and as a result of drifting attempts by the humans each side learns more about the other. It just so happens that the humans use what they learn to launch a nuclear strike. Well, if you read what I wrote, yes so, and if you'll recall, "it just so happens" that the aliens use what they learn to create bigger monsters better suited to the purpose of killing all humans, because what the humans learn is that these are basically the same aliens from Independence Day. However, this is only mildly relevant as the original assertions regarded the decision to build robots and engage the enemy instead of trying to converse, which is a false dichotomy because there was no such corresponding capability at the time.
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Nov 27, 2017 22:54
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Schwarzwald posted:Profundity is not measured by achieving a goal. Right. It was a profound info dump. It was WikiLeaks and the Kaiju emails. Was there substantive information exchanged? Sure. Just with no agency to direct what information came over, what information was sent, what it all meant, etc. Not much of a conversation.
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Ferrinus posted:The original assertion is that the idea of talking to the kaiju is ridiculous. However, talking to the kaiju is what happens in the movie. Lol, okay.
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That's basically Gipsy Danger v Otachi.
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I wish I could get more excited over that.
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Jan 24, 2018 20:03
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That Jaeger jumping like half a mile into the air was...something.
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Jan 25, 2018 05:21
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Sure. It's not impossible. A few scenes in this trailer already improved quite a bit on the "man-in-suit" Jaegar look by demonstrating more moving parts and an attempt to represent mass that wasn't made in the first one. Eh, but it still has a long way to go.
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Cythereal posted:Meh. I don't consider it a good sign when my ability to recognize the mechs in a Pacific Rim sequel is limited to "one with the whip," "one with the flail," "girl," and "evil one (because it's black)." The one with the sword. The one with the two swords. The one with the whip sword. The one with the... edit: like, why not a spear? A spear would be a great anti-Kaiju weapon. Habibi fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Feb 6, 2018 |
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:https://twitter.com/hobby_magazine/status/960845622961168384 Robot Toy 2.0.
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The best part of PR was the entire 10+ minute title sequence. Whatever other flaws the movie may have, and complaints that people may have about them, I haven't met anyone who has seen that sequence and not wanted to see the rest of the movie.The Otachi/Leatherback fight was number two.
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Panfilo posted:That's what I assumed, but then we see other Rangers acting in synch so I'm not sure what the deal is. Maybe there's some sort of "limited control" mechanism she puts into place - like maybe she can single-handedly control its mobility (I think the only trailer scene where we see her piloting it solo it just runs and rolls), but more pilots are needed to bring other capabilities (weapons, targeting, whatever) online.
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Feb 7, 2018 22:22
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:Good. Super robots should be super, dangit. The first movie pretty much died for me on account of the action being so boring. You're weird. Well, of course you're weird - you're on these forums. But like, extra weird. Anyway, this is the first trailer that actually makes me somewhat interested in the movie. But the lack of weight still sucks. A giant million ton robot doing a parkour wall jump off of a skyscraper? Sure, why not.
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:There’s a lot of fan speculation on this, I think the best-known one is named “Occam’s Razor” which is an amazing Jaeger name. Its main attack is going to be asking the Kaiju riddles like the main character from 'Mafia.' "Wait, wait - before you crush my head and annihilate this city, let me ask you one question: two mothers and two daughters go out for dinner, but they ask only for a table for three - how can this be?"
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Sazabi posted:We didn't have a scene in the first movie where they picked up a giant prop. Like the Hugh donut from earth girls are easy. Or a Michellen tire. You know some thing giant by human standards but relatively normal by kaiju Jaeger proportions. Kaiju's making faces after biting giant prop burgers, and Jaeger's getting thrown downtown and sitting up with Tom's Top Hat emporium's signature top hat logo. We had several such scenes. Gipsy picking up the tanker to use as a sword, already mentioned. Gipsy picking up the fishing boat in the title sequence. Gipsy using cargo containers like rolls of quarters.
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Zebulon posted:Speaking of, Striker Eureka's huge chest mortar thing and Bracer Phoenix's everything kind of suggests that they'd started focusing on ranged combat with mk 5s to try and compensate on how badly Jaegers were getting chumped by category 3 and 4 Kaiju later on. Bracer has its brass-knuckles fist and Striker had its goofy electrical stinger blade things but both were primarily built around huge loving projectile weapons. It's an interesting design detail if intentional. By comparison the mk 6 Jaegers that succeeded them seem to focus a lot more on mobility but are otherwise all over the place.
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Cythereal posted:My impression from PR1 was that anti-kaiju projectile weapons are so ponderous (every one we see in PR1 requires a lengthy arming/charge-up time) and kaiju are so agile, the normal process is to beat the kaiju down in melee until it's stunned or disabled, then bring out the big gun and finish it. Not to mention fights seem to usually start in the water where the kaiju can hide and so things typically start at close range anyhow. It's too bad we didn't get to see Crimson Typhoon's plasma cannon, as IIRC it was the next gen version of Gipsy's. quote:I assume that's a practical reason why jaegers try to engage kaiju at sea. Cities are terrible for line of sight and it's easy to get ambushed in one if you're trying to snipe a kaiju with long-range weapons.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:"We're stronger when we work together (and we get our asses kicked when we don't)" was one of the main themes throughout PR1, most obviously with the science team of super analytical Hermann and super creative Newt who could barely stand each other but were way more effective when they put their differences aside and worked together. They didn't really make it super obvious in the rift compatibility gimmick and explicitly show that the individual pilots' specific strengths are combined for greater fighting effectiveness (and didn't go down the "I thought you were an rear end in a top hat who only cared about following the rules but your discipline combined with my bravery makes us an unbeatable team!!" path) but I'm also surprised that they didn't explore possible carry on effects that drifting might have on the pilots' psychological issues outside of the battles, borrowing from each other's life experiences for possible benefits but also potentially making their personal problems worse if they got the wrong co-pilot. There was a whole bunch of potential pathos they could have wrung out of the "You're in my head" gimmick but it feels like they mostly just showed co-pilots shouting encouragement while the other re-experienced traumatic memories and didn't really explore it beyond that. Interestingly, IIRC, the original story spent significantly more time and focused on the drift and its effects, but virtually all of it was left on the cutting room floor. The monsters and robots were effectively a vehicle for a story about drifting. I don't have a citation for this at hand, but I have a vague recollection of reading that just about a third of the original reel was cut, and most of it was drift stuff.
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The thing about PR1 wasn't giant robots punching things. It was the presentation of giant robots punching things.
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Bistromatic posted:I did not pay enough attention to say whether it was the same in Uprising or not but i noticed that during closer views all the armour plates on Gipsy Danger jiggle a little bit with every major movement, as if they're mounted on shock absorbers. Which makes a lot of sense if you expect to be punched by godzilla. It's another little thing that adds to the sense of scale and weight. Yes, and this was the case with all the Jaegers in PR1, and one of the nicer touches of realism that's not nearly as evident in the sequel. It's not even a shock absorber thing, it's simply evidence that the armor plates are not the same piece of metal as what they're mounted to, because any mounting / binding would flex and move under high force. The argument would probably be technological development blah blah, but whatever the rationale, it contributes to the Power Ranger aesthetic in Uprising.
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